Gaybutton

As I posted on my own board: That's how I got to the board now. I'm a firm believer in "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." With the exception of the automatic log in feature (And that feature still doesn't work, at least for me), this board was working perfectly. I fail to see why changing it around was necessary or how anything about it is significantly improved. Messing around with it has caused problems and glitches. Quite frankly and in all honesty, even if there were no glitches at all, the differences now present in the board leave me "underwhelmed." I see nothing impressive or even particularly desirable about the changes. My unsolicited advice is: If and when you get this board working as it is supposed to, unless some sort of really important "can't live without it" improvement comes along, then leave it alone. Why try to make alterations to a message board that is already working perfectly? I don't think very many people go to this board, or any board, because of how pretty it looks or because of bells and whistles. They go to the boards to read and post messages. But in all honesty, when simply trying to get to a board at all becomes an inconvenient chore, that's when I stop going to that board very often or even stop going to that board at all. I hope these problems will be fixed - fast.

I have a few reasons why I prefer Gay Romeo to the bars. Living here, the go-go bars lost their fascination for me long ago. I almost wish that wasn't the case, but now I prefer looking for young gents from the comfort of my home, rather than spending the evening bar hopping and spending money on drinks I don't want, the obligatory "drink for boy," off fees, excessively loud music volume, etc. I just don't enjoy the go-go bars anywhere near as much as I used to. When I was here for holidays and even when I first lived here, if I missed a night in the bars, I felt like I was depriving myself of something. Now, the bars simply are no longer a priority for me. I still do go to the bars every so often, but I find all I want using Gay Romeo. With Gay Romeo, I don't even have to leave the house. If I find a willing young gent, twenty minutes later he's knocking on my door. No drinks. No off fees. When a farang takes a boy off from a bar, if he returns to the bar the same boy often assumes the farang came back for him. Some people find it very awkward and uncomfortable to call over a different boy and reject the boy he had already taken off. There's really no reason for that, but if it is a problem for you, that problem doesn't exist when using Gay Romeo. Another reason I like Gay Romeo is not every boy is a money boy. In the bars, by the time you're done, you can easily go through several thousand baht just finding the one who attracts you the most, and he's not interested in going with you or even sitting with you unless he's paid to do so. I've met many guys on Gay Romeo who not only are not money boys, but won't even let me pay their taxi fare. I'll be damned if I have the slightest clue why they would be attracted to me, but I'm sure not going to argue with them about it. Gay Romeo is certainly not for everyone. With the gay bar scene here, I would think most holiday makers prefer that to sitting on a computer. The bar scene is the reason many come here in the first place. Many want to see the person live rather than relying on photos placed on Gay Romeo. Another reason to use Gay Romeo - not everyone lives in Pattaya, Bangkok, Phuket, or anywhere else where a gay bar scene exists at all. Even many who come to Thailand for a holiday are not interested in the bar scene or coming to cities such as Pattaya. It's not their thing. Gay Romeo can come in mighty handy in such locations. I also like Gay Romeo because quite often I prefer to meet guys in the afternoon rather than at night. Sometimes the morning too. The bars are open only at night. Gay Romeo has plenty of guys available 24/7 - even on holidays when the bars have to be closed. With Gay Romeo, if you wake up at 5:00am and are feeling a little frisky, there will be guys on Gay Romeo even at that hour. It all depends on your point of view, what you're looking for, and how you prefer to do your looking.

The only objection I have is you haven't posted more pics. If you've got 'em, post 'em.

Some of the photos also include a male and female farang who were caught up in the photos. By bkkguy's logic, their permission is also necessary before the picture can be posted. And don't forget to obtain permission from the marine police officer in the boat in the background of one of the pictures. Next time, just swim out and ask him it it's ok. How about photos of the crowds at Songkran? Don't forget to find and obtain permission from each and every one of the people in the crowd. The rules are here for a reason. Common sense also comes into play. If bkkguy wants to place such a literal interpretation of the rules just to make some sort of ridiculous point, let him. "John Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it!" - President Andrew Jackson (supposedly he never actually said that)

"In my opinion, lousy." - Walter Matthau, 'The Sunshine Boys'

Yes, he's the owner. I hope you made him aware of the Email. Based on your post above, his board software apparently has several glitches and I wouldn't be surprised if the Email turns out to be one of them. Again, if you or anyone else experiences these kinds of problems, unless you tell him about it he won't know a problem even exists.

Have any of you sent a PM or Email to DaBoss or jinks about this? As I said, it may be purely unintentional and they may not even be aware of it. For example, often, on my own board I ban IP numbers when registration attempts come in from that Russian company that is constantly trying to place phony registrations on my board. Sometimes, that also unintentionally bans out legitimate members. Until I receive an Email from a member that happened to, I have no way of knowing it and fixing it for that user. One of the reasons I think it may be unintentional is because I think if they were going to intentionally start deleting members, Emails, or anything else, then they would have posted some sort of announcement about it prior to doing it. Also, on any board it's a good idea to keep your Email address updated. Sometimes a board announcement might be sent out or someone may have sent a PM to you. If someone sends you a PM, most boards send a notification to you via Email informing you that you have a PM waiting. If you're someone who only logs in periodically, then you might not even know about the PM if the board is sending out the notification Email to the wrong address. If you read the board without logging on, you could have a PM sitting there for months without knowing it.

I think that's a good point. While some may say the rule should apply when someone is trying to post personal information about another person, and shouldn't apply if someone is voluntarily posting his own phone number, there is still the possibility of someone playing games with another person's telephone number. I think it would be best for people who want to give out their own telephone number to do so via a PM or Email. I think posting personal telephone numbers should not be allowed at all, even if someone wants to post his own.

This is just a guess on my part - I haven't had any communication with DaBoss about this, but my board uses the same basic software. Intentionally or unintentionally, he might have the board set to automatically prune out inactive members if they have not logged in for a specified length of time and the Email may have been automatically generated. If you received that Email, you might want to send an Email of your own to DaBoss. It's entirely possible he might not even be aware that these Emails are going out.

If that's the case, then why would he write such a post and leave that phone number, especially having no idea how many calls he might get? That makes no sense to me at all. Suppose this guy actually turns out to be genuine? Meanwhile you've got 65-trillion other boys available in Thailand. Do what you want, gents, but that post and the responses to the phone calls only mean "red lights" to me.

When it comes to this sort of thing, despite your sarcasm, you're right. If you really can't see through it, why not arrange to meet him and afterwards tell me how wrong I was? If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll be happy to eat a well deserved serving of crow. The post in near perfect English, followed by two phone calls, the phone answered by two different people, neither of whom spoke English, but the guy is so lonely? Ok . . .

Are you serious? I wouldn't give him 24 minutes. The scam is so obvious. Of course, there is always the possibility, however remote, that the guy is actually for real. So, rather than respond by calling the number, if you really want to "help" this guy find a nice friend because he is so lonely, just send him a text message - the entirety of the message being: http://www.gayromeo.com

A bar, as in just one? I don't know about Bangkok. I haven't gone to a go-go bar in Bangkok for years and I doubt I ever will again. If they want people to pay the kinds of prices most of them are charging, fine with me, but include me out. In Pattaya, try most of them, including Eros when it isn't a theme night. And even on many of their theme nights, the boys still wear whatever they want. For instance, on thong nights, the boys wear whatever kinds of thongs they want - no standard issue. Try Mic My, Nice Boys, Lucky 777, along with most of the others in Boyztown-Pattayaland. Even in Krazy Dragon, I've seen some boys wearing what they want rather than the issued attire. Have a look at the second photo on their gallery page and you'll see what I mean: http://www.krazy-dragon.com/galleryall.html

That's precisely why they usually don't advertise them outside. I doubt it. So far, in my experience, it doesn't work that way. Don't forget, the reason most boys are there in the first place is to try to be taken off. If one boy is wearing a thong and another boy is wearing bib overalls and a long sleeve shirt, guess which of the two is most likely to be taken off. I like them attired minimally too, and the boys who choose to be rather than forced to be - that's the kind of "statement" I like and that's the boy who has the best chance to be taken off, at least taken off by me. I've been in a lot of bars where the boys decide for themselves what to wear. Believe me, scanty attire is not a problem for most of them. As a matter of fact, many of them wear attire even more scanty than the bars where the boys are told what to wear. Thank goodness!

I would have said, "As long as you're inconveniencing everybody, bring orders of chicken nuggets for all of us. And since you didn't have the courtesy to even ask if the rest of us mind the stop, no matter who the fuck you think you are, since I do mind, you're paying. Oh, and I'll have an iced tea with mine."

Speaking only for myself, when I go to a go-go bar, the main factors that influence how long I'll be in there and how often I'll go are: 1. Types - Are at least some of the boys my type? Since everyone has his own preferences, I think a successful bar needs a diversity of types - to be able to please the widest range of customers. 2. Music volume - Anyone who has been reading what I've been harping on for years probably knows one of my biggest complaints is excessively loud music volume. I won't repeat all I've already said in the past so many times other than to say if the music is excessively loud to the point of discomfort, then even if every boy in there is my type, I'm going to quickly be out the door. 3. Mama-sans - To this day I'm still trying to figure out the necessity of some bars having mama-sans, especially the aggressive ones who try to sit down with me, uninvited, doing little more than trying to solicit drinks and tips for themselves. Many bars have no mama-sans at all and they're doing just fine without them. I can certainly do without them. I always shoo them away. And while I'm at it, why do some bar owners tolerate their mama-sans pushing only the boys who give them kickbacks when they're taken off? 4. The "One-knee Shuffle" - Oddly enough, when I go to a go-go bar, I actually want to see the go-go boys dancing. Isn't that strange? In the bars where most of the boys are just standing there on the stage, looking bored out of their minds, and doing nothing more than rocking a knee back and forth, usually while staring at themselves in a mirror, my attention span is, shall we say, limited. In other words, bye bye. 5. Drink prices and off fees - Sorry, bar owners, but I'm not going to patronize a bar charging 180 baht for a watered down drink when I can get the same drink - not watered down - at another nearby bar for half the price. And if you're going to try to charge me 400 baht on up to take a boy off, guess what - I'm not taking a boy off. Not at your bar, anyway. 6. Bar shows - That's another one I've been harping on for years. I don't like bar shows in the first place, but obviously many do. I'm not going to suggest doing away with bar shows (although I wouldn't have any objections if that happens), but I am going to suggest, yet again, to do something different in the shows. Is there a bar show anywhere that doesn't include lady-boys with breast implants lip synching . . . ? If you just must do bar shows, please - how about some genuine originality for a change. 7. Aggressive street touts - I don't mind so much the street touts shouting "Have BOY, sexy BOY, have new BOY," along with "Welcome inside Mister." But if you have street touts trying to physically pull me into your bar, I'm not going into your bar. 8. Fun - What happened to the "fun factor?" Where did it go? I often find it difficult trying to distinguish one bar from another. I think for a bar to really succeed, bar owners need to pay much more attention to making sure it's fun for the boys and fun for the customers. As far as I can tell, in Pattaya two of the very few go-go bars doing that are Happy Place and often Funny Boys. Can anyone figure out why those bars are usually packed while if you go to some of the other nearby bars, you'll probably be the only customer in there? 9. Individuality - While many like the idea of all the boys wearing precisely the same attire, unless it's a theme bar or a special theme night, my preference is letting the boys decide for themselves what they're going to wear. To me, that makes a statement and is a large part of my decision making as to whether I want to call a boy over to sit with me and/or take him off. 10. Furniture and cleanliness - Another factor for me is the furniture. Some bars have very comfortable furniture while in other bars, by the time I leave I'm also leaving with a backache. If you're going to invest in a bar, invest in some decent furniture too, willya? And while you're at it, what's so difficult about having clean, odor free restrooms? If I need to use a restroom, for some strange reason I like it a lot better if it's clean. In some bars, the restrooms are as if the last time anyone cleaned them was the day the building first opened. And is providing paper towels really such a major expense? In some bars, there is a community terrycloth towel that God only knows how long it's been there and what was on the hands of those who used it before it was my turn. No thank you. With those kinds of towels, I think you're better off just drip drying. For some bar owners, here's a new word for you: Sanitary. If anyone out there is seriously considering opening a bar, I hope you'll give consideration to those factors. If you do, again speaking only for myself, I'll be much more likely to be a customer of yours rather than spending my money elsewhere.

"He was so old, when he was in school they didn't have History." - Rodney Dangerfield

That one is probably right. That sounds like something I would say and although it sounds very familiar, I can't remember whether I actually said that or not. Something I know I said, because I've said it many times and still do: "When I was young my grandfather took me aside and said, 'The best grandfatherly advice I can give you is - don't get old.' I should have listened." Here's another one I like: "I'm not afraid. At my age there's not a lot left to be afraid of." - Helen Hayes (Ada Quonsett), 'Airport'

The guy is on my "I Don't Get It" list. He's in Thailand trying to hide from serious felony charges in his home country, the kind that will cause the embassy to go after you and the kind that causes Immigration to revoke your visa and deport you without so much as a hearing, so he buys a bar and remains conspicuously visible?

Thank you for that, but I hope this thread will stay focused on Pattayamale's idea about starting a new board. That's what I thought this thread is supposed to be about. I doubt anyone is going to come up with anything new in their attacks directed at me that hasn't already been said a million times anyway. I would suggest keeping this thread on topic and let those who want to turn it into an "I Hate Gaybutton" thread simply start a new topic and post their attacks there.

Especially posts such as yours. I'm glad to see we're not going to use one board to criticize another. Is that so? Pray tell, on which board is Pattayamale a moderator? I must have missed it.

So far they haven't. How long should 'eventually' take? I've been posting about the excessively loud music for years. In that time I don't recall seeing more than a very few responses saying "I like the loud music." The vast majority of responses have always been that customers don't like it any better than I do. Next logical question: Who's the loud music for? The most common answer is "The boys like it." I never see anyone questioning that. Maybe you should. Have you ever asked the boys if they really do like the overly loud music? Many don't. I've spoken to many boys who also dislike music as loud as that. It's one thing when they go to a disco for a few hours of fun, but it's quite another when they have to work in that kind of environment every night. Some have quit working in the bars that play the music too loudly after they go home enough times with their ears pounding and suffering from headaches nearly every night. Some stopped being go-go boys and started working outside as doormen, apparently preferring to spend their working hours calling out "Welcome inside, Mister. Have BOY, sexy BOY" instead of going deaf. I too think the particular bar that spent a lot of money on a high quality sound system made a mistake by doing so. Unless a lot of customers were asking for a higher quality sound system, what purpose was served? Are you attracted to go-go bars because of the music system? Is the music system even a factor for you when deciding which go-go bars to patronize? Speaking only for myself, when I'm in a go-go bar, I'm there because of the boys and I couldn't care less about the sound quality. I don't even pay attention to it. For me, the music is there for the boys to have something to dance to - when they're actually dancing instead of standing there doing the "One Knee Shuffle." Whether it's dancing or the "One Knee Shuffle," neither requires excessively loud music. The only bar owner ever to post a response saying he is listening to his customers and will turn down the volume was Krazy Dragon. As for the rest of the bar owners, I don't understand what the problem is about keeping the volume at a reasonable level. For me, if I can at least talk to the person sitting next to me without having to shout or talk to the waiter taking my order, that's loud enough. No matter how fabulous the bar might be, if my ears are being tortured I'm not staying and I'm not coming back. I hope the bar owners finally start listening - that is if they can still hear . . .

Yes, come on. There is no flooding at all anywhere in Pattaya where you're likely to be. Bring an umbrella with you and you should be fine. And if the weather pattern doesn't unexpectedly change, most of the time you probably won't even need the umbrella.

I would have replied to him with, "I know you feel. The same thing happened to me. I'm on Gay Romeo trying to find someone to help me with money too."

"My compliments to the general. Please inform him I do not care to drink with him, or any other Russian son of a bitch." - George C. Scott, 'Patton'