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It depends on where you want to go. If you want to go to any of the cities where the curfew has already been lifted, you could go right now without any problems. The way things are starting to play out, the curfew is likely to be lifted entirely long before November. Whether you decide to go and where you decide to go, one piece of advice: Don't wait around very long to make your flight and hotel bookings. I don't know about other cities, but if this year goes as it always has, In Pattaya the longer you wait, the more difficult it will be to get a room in the area you prefer to stay. If you wait too long, you'll be lucky if you can get a room at all.

Thank you, but that is not quite correct. The info was not sent to me by the owner. It was sent by a friend who merely happened to be present in Eros when the raid occurred.

My answer is a simple no - if there is a service charge, then as far as I'm concerned that's the tip.

No.

In Michael's first post he wrote that he was questioned by Homeland Security. Suppose one of the answers was, "I'm gay. I'm going to Thailand to have sex with young men." Would someone please explain to me what that would have to do with Homeland Security? What would the answers to any of those questions have to do with Homeland Security? This is the first time I've ever heard of anyone being subjected to that kind of questioning outbound rather than inbound. Would someone also please explain to me how being a single man, traveling to and from Thailand, however frequently, possibly to engage in gay sex, in any way endangers the USA? In the questions Michael listed, what are they trying to find out? I know of no terrorist activity or incidents that ever had anything to do with single males frequently traveling to Thailand. The problem is, as earlier posted, if you start arguing with them and/or refuse to answer their questions, you might very well end up on a no-fly list. Oh well, there's always cruise ships. Do they have a no-sail list? I agree with firecat69's statement that the Supreme Court is a joke. The trouble is, I'm not laughing.

In the video it is mentioned that Mr. Seymour had written an article entitled "I Saw Lincoln Shot." I was interested in finding and reading that article. I did manage to find it. If you're interested, you can read it at: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1368&dat=19540207&id=wHUxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=SBAEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5624,3979599

Actually, there are a few things wrong with the above list. The most glaring is "A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe." That's a little strange considering Kennedy was killed on November 22, 1963. Marilyn Monroe died on August 5, 1962. There is no record of Abraham Lincoln ever having had a secretary named Kennedy. The number of letters in the names seems particularly trivial to me. John Wilkes Booth was not shot in a warehouse. He was shot in a barn. However, one thing the list does not mention - both Lincoln and Kennedy were sitting right next to their wives when they were shot. I'm surprised that's not included on the list. Supposedly, Lincoln had a nightmare about his own death shortly before the assassination. It is said he talked about it. It is known that Kennedy talked about the possibility of being the victim of an assassination only hours before it happened. Despite the factual errors, I still find the rest of the list, the accurate part, interesting.

Or both . . . I've always wondered about this list: ____________________________ Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846. John F Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946. Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860. John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960. The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters. Both were particularly concerned with civil rights. Both wives lost children while living in the White House. Both Presidents were shot on a Friday. Both Presidents were shot in the head. Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy. Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln. Both were assassinated by Southerners. Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson. Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908. John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839. Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939. Both assassins were known by their three names. Both names are composed of fifteen letters. Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.' Kennedy was shot in a car, a Ford, called 'Lincoln.' Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse. Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater. Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials. A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland. A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.

Abraham Lincoln was assassinated the night of April 14. He died around 9 hours later, the morning of April 15. As for the link between the two events, I thought Lincoln did approve a tax of some kind. Whether it was an income tax or something else, I really don't know unless I look it up - which I won't.

The drive between Bang Saen and Pattaya usually takes me about 45 minutes. I've been to the seafood restaurant 2lz2p mentioned several times. It's very good, very picturesque right over the water, and prices are quite reasonable. If you've ever been to the seafood restaurant in Bang Sare, it's very similar - so similar that it might be owned by the same people. Of course, there are many other restaurants to choose from, but if I'm going to eat while in Bang Saen, that's the one I head for. Look for the blue rooftops. You can't miss it. The beach and waters are clean and there is usually plenty of parking. There are also plenty of concessionaires, just like Dongtan Beach in Jomtien. People are much more conservative about their beach attire than they are in Pattaya. If there is a gay area, I've never found it. Also, there is a small mountain (can't think of the name, but it's the only one) at the north end. At the top there is a colony of wild monkeys. Before you're even out of your car the vendors are there to sell you baskets of fruit and vegetables to feed to the monkeys. I used to buy those, but I found something the monkeys appreciate even more - bottled water. Now, whenever I go there I always take a few six-packs of bottled water. Open the bottles for the monkeys. They haven't figured out how to open the bottles, but they get very thirsty up there and they obviously are grateful for the water. The vendors don't sell water, so you'll have to bring it yourself. Most of the monkeys just lay the bottles on the ground and lap up the water as it pours out, but every once in awhile there's a monkey that figured out how to pick up the bottle and drink from it. If the monkeys drop the empty bottle instead of making off with it, I pick it up, put it in the car, and throw it out later rather than leaving plastic bottles all over the place. Also, if you arrive by car, leave everything of value in the car, including the car keys (make sure you don't lock the door with your keys inside the car). Don't keep anything in your pockets that you don't want to lose. You think Pattaya has a pickpocket problem? Wait 'til you meet the monkeys. Some of them put the Pattaya pickpockets to shame.

I read some of the comments people wrote after the article on the link you posted. I liked this one: "I guess we should lower our Rainbow Flags to half mast."

I understand perfectly and I'm sorry for what you're going through. The last thing you need to worry about is a misunderstanding with me. Don't give it another thought. The last time I saw jinks was at a Take Care dinner in Pattaya. We sat together and had a lot of fun. Each of us won a door prize too. He liked the prize I won and I liked the prize he won, so we traded. Since then we communicated often via PMs on the boards. He never said anything to me to indicate just how ill he was. He wanted to return to Pattaya later this year. I wish he could have. I am truly deeply upset about his death and I will greatly miss him. I already do.

That "dick" is probably me. But that's not what I said at all and I made no such accusation. What I said was, "I hope it will turn out to be someone's idea of a sick hoax, but the post does seem believable to me." You can read my entire post at: http://www.gaybuttonthai.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6335 jinks and I were good friends. I really hoped it wasn't true. Having absolutely no idea who you are and given that your post appeared as a first post here, I truly hoped it was a hoax and that jinks was ok. Unfortunately, on these boards there are people who wouldn't be above doing something like that. I know now that it wasn't a hoax and I'm very upset about his death. His death has been confirmed by Surfcrest, the owner of the Sawatdee board on which jinks was a moderator. I knew he was ill, but I did not know how seriously ill he actually was.

Me? Ban anyone? Ever? For any reason? Surely you jest . . .

WHAT?!?!?!? I hope you're joking. Just in case you actually believe that, read this: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/106225/50-year-thai-man-injured-east-pattaya-road-rage-attack/ That's just one example, in one city, out of hundreds and hundreds that take place just as often in Thailand as anywhere else.

What?!?!? You misspelled something? You didn't punctuate correctly? Your grammar was imperfect? Forgot a capital letter? Just for that, as an officer of the Spelling and Grammar Police, I now place you under assert!

There is an exception. I've posted about this before. I had an experience on Gay Romeo when the boy who showed up was not the boy in the photos. He wasn't even close. I guess he was a substitute or something - who knows? I would have sent him away, but as it turned out, I liked him far more than the boy who was in the photos. He ended up with a much better tip than I had in mind for the boy in the photos.

"That still ain't it, honey." - Clarice Taylor (Idella), 'Purlie'

Unless you have reason to believe the boy deliberately deceived you, since you did take him off I think that obligates you to give him the full tip amount whether you engage in sex with him or not. It's not his fault you didn't notice his flaws or what you don't like about him until after you took him off. As long as he's getting his money, which is the reason he went off with you in the first place, he'll be happy. You could always say you're just too tired now or something. After all, you're the one who took him off. On the other hand, if you know he deliberately deceived you, that's a different story. In that case, I don't think you owe him anything at all. I'd give him taxi fare just to get rid of him, but nothing more.

I said bribe me the right way. "That ain't it, honey." - Clarice Taylor (Idella), 'Purlie'

Actually, I do have an important message for you. As a matter of fact it's urgent - absolutely vital. Now, all you have to do is bribe me the right way to find out what it is . . .

It would also end my presence in their establishment - permanently.

Have times changed? I almost never take boys off from bars anymore, so perhaps I'm behind the times. Until now I've never heard of a bar preventing boys from being taken off due to their nationality or their age. Lao and Cambodian boys work in the bars and they're taken off regularly. I see that for myself constantly. Until now, I've never heard of bars refusing to let under-age boys be taken off unless they are very under-age. That's why we've had so many posts over the years advising people to make sure to check a boy's ID card to make sure of his age. Has something changed right under my nose and I've missed it?