Everything posted by bkkmfj2648
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Is it quiet right now
I would say that it is the quietest low season since covid - from the gay ghetto point of view. There are other members in our forum who recently posted that some areas over in Pattaya City (around Terminal 21) were very busy. Just the other day, the below Twitter (X) user posted this interesting tidbit: https://x.com/iashsethi The biggest spending tourists in Thailand are all from the Middle East. Average length of stay 10-12 days. 52% of Thailand's foreign tourism revenue comes from 8 countries: China, Russia, Malaysia, India, UK, Germany, USA, and South Korea (~$25B out of $48B). I would agree with the above statistics that he posted - especially when you move around to the various parts of Pattaya. In the central and northern parts of Pattaya city you definitely see and feel the presence of Chinese tourists. However, I would say that the Russians are more concentrated in the Phratamnak neighborhood on soi 7 - as the primary language on the signage on that street is in Russian and soi 7 ends at what I believe is the largest Russian night market in Pattaya: This Russian night market is very close to where Guido's G's Pratamnak restaurant will be Many Russians can also be found throughout Jomtien and also in the Sansuk sauna: https://sansukthailand.com/
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Are the bars dead?
Yes, I reported on the Asian Circuit Party that took place in Pattaya last month in June during the designated Pride month. See below posting with 2 hot Instagram videos from the event.
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Are the bars dead?
I completely agree with your assessment @Vessey Could you elaborate on why its our own fault? Is it because for the gay districts that a renaissance by an entity like the NightWish Group did not take hold in Pattaya? For Sunee Plaza it is already too late in my opinion - and for Boyztown I am not sure if an entity like NightWish Group could save its demise. However, for the Jomtien Complex, aka Supertown - it might not yet be too late for the existing farang entities to band together to create an international marketing campaign. On a voluntary basis, there is a single person (Jim) who runs the Supertown Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/supertowngay and in my opinion he does a good job. There is another web page that was promoting the Jomtien Complex, www.jomtiencomplex.com - but as per the WayBackMachine it has not had an update since 12-Feb-2026 and the last major updates were in May 2025. Neither of these web promotional initiatives are oriented for international marketing of the Jomtien Complex. Therefore, a type of NightWish Group international marketing initiative (a gay equivalent) might be in order - as you reported that they were successful in getting new blood (younger generations) to frequent the heterosexual entertainment districts of Pattaya. Would you agree?
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Map of Jomtien Complex - Supertown
Want to sponsor a team for a good fun cause? The idea is to sponsor a bowling team from one of the many entities (bars) that are in the Jomtien Complex, aka Supertown. The goal is to get us farangs to sponsor up to 12 bowling teams, that are made up of 4 people per team - where at least 50% of the team is made up of the local guys. The cost to sponsor a team is only 2,500 baht (see below for further event details). If you are interested in forming and sponsoring a team, you can contact the organizer of this event, Ron, on his LINE account at: khunron_thailand If you don't know which Jomtien Complex entity to sponsor - then Ron can help you by assigning one of the entities to you. In my case, I was assigned to sponsor the Sunee Bar. I am late to the party - in the sense that I just learned that this initiative has already been taking place for a couple of years - but I only discovered this great initiative now in 2026. The philosophy for this event is for us farangs to give back something to the guys that serve us and to have a fun evening all together over at the nearby The Wave Bowl https://maps.app.goo.gl/SvSxFe5RXVVsU8r69 https://www.facebook.com/thewavebowl/ Based on past events it seems like a lot of fun: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1340184004577770&set=pcb.1340189497910554 Below are the event participation guidelines: I had my first meeting with my new Sunee Bar team and only 1 of the guys has ever held a bowling ball in his hands before. So, we have a lot of work to do between now and Tuesday 28 July 2026. I look forward to this challenge. After this afternoon event concludes there will be a party held for the participants over at the @Home Bar at 7pm. Will you join us?
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Are the bars dead?
I totally agree 200% with what you wrote above and is why I continually write (see below related Sunee post) about ways to potentially decrease and/or avoid this phenomena of "short supply so much as tourists like us". I see one big potential event that is on the horizon (2030 World Pride) as a way to re-energize the gay economic centers (Chiang Mai, Phuket, Hua Hin, Hat Yai, Koh Samui, and Pattaya) in Thailand that are in the hinterland outside of Bangkok. As this big event will primarily take place in Bangkok, it would be rather easy for the Bangkok promoters and event sponsors to include information about these hinterland gay economic centers when formulating the marketing campaign and programs for the 2030 World Pride events. Will it save the current demise that is underway for these hinterland gay economic centers? Probably not, but at least it could slow down their decay and if we are lucky, perhaps 1 or 2 would benefit from this publicity on the world stage. This was so evident in this year's Pattaya International Pride Festival for 2026, where there were only 2 gay bars represented in the parade line-up out of 82 entities. That is only a 2.4% participation rate (2 / 82 = .02439). And furthermore, the local Pattaya City elections happen to mysteriously fall on the same date as the already pre-planned parade date, which was announced almost 1 year prior - the date for this year's gay pride event = Saturday June 27, 2026 - thus resulting in the closure of all gay bar businesses and venues that serve alcohol on the most important gay pride day. This may be a phenomena that is unique only to the Pattaya City gay pride event - because over in Jomtien, the Jomtien Complex Pride Night will be more than 50% supported by gay entities and gay venues. So, a 2.4% participation rate in Pattaya City and a more than 50% participation rate over in Jomtien. Interesting? What could be the cause behind this? We will know more after the Jomtien Complex Pride Night will conclude on Saturday July 18, 2026.
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MIMA Party 2025
It is a discussion group. The leads of this discussion group go to the various massage shops and review the massage that they received from a specific massage shop and the specific guy that they requested and/or were assigned to. Afterwards, they write up these massage shop and masseur reviews that are stored for membership consumption. They also provide the LINE Chat and now Telegram Chat to allow for information to be exchanged between the membership, discussion group leads, and sometimes the massage shops and/or masseurs themselves to have an interchange of information, gossip, news, and entertainment. It is not a network of callboys and it is not a massage shop. It tries to stay independent of being a callboy or massage shop - and that is where I believe the value is. It also organizes occasional membership events - like the one announced above.
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MIMA Party 2025
For those who will be in Bangkok on 4 July 2026 - there will be the Massage Insider 5th Anniversary Party at the Joy Zone in Silom. https://share.google/QSddUCdxiZrAHOK65 A Final Announcement was issued yesterday in their Massage Insider LINE account: If you are interested in attending at this late in the stage, I would suggest to reach out to the Massage Insider administrator via his Twitter (X) handle at: @massageinside6 I do not know what the pricing is to attend this 5th year anniversary event - as it was only divulged to those who attended any of the many Open Chat sessions. But, I believe if you write the administrator via X that he would divulge this information. If anyone will attend this event - please let us all know how it went.
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Map of Jomtien Complex - Supertown
The Supertown FB administrator updated the Jomtien Complex, aka Supertown map today, 30-Jun-2026. Map updated to include Schatzi's Restaurant and the renaming of "Gus Bar" as "Great Bar". https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10167719473968032&set=gm.1591928359300068&idorvanity=1380111770481729
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Map of Jomtien Complex - Supertown
There was a Cafe John restaurant in that area - see below image from an old Google Maps screen capture. If there was a David's in that area - then that was before I moved here....
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Map of Jomtien Complex - Supertown
Schatzi's has published their menu as of 29-June-2026 I see a new addition in the Thai section of the menu = Chicken & Cashews - which many of our forum members like. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61590577088216
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Guido’s cat
That is in less than 1 month from now. I think that anticipated opening date is rather ambitious. Having said that, I truly wish a BIG success to Guido. For us who live here in the Pattaya area, we will soon have 2 choices for schnitzel and German sausages at the new Schatzi's in the Jomtien Complex and also in Guido's new Pratumnak branch.
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Guido’s cat
Now hiring!! Yesterday, while doing my almost daily health walk, I intentionally walked past Guido's new endeavor in Pattaya (Pratumnak neighborhood) and there was this new sign posted where Guido is looking to recruit new staff for his new restaurant. I checked out G's FB page at: G's Bangkok Facebook page and the same information was posted - but back on 19 June 2026. The sign on the physical Pratumanak property is new, as I pass by often to watch and note the progress being made. photo taken 28 June 2026 photo taken 28 June 2026 Shall we make a poll for when it will open? I am not a construction expert - but I would say that there could be a "soft opening" at the end of August and a full opening in September/October - just in time for the beginning of high season.
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Why Pattaya? and when?
In 2 short words = Total Disaster It was a chicken noodle franchise business and he traveled around Thailand visiting various Thai festivals where he would purchase the rights to a food booth at said event for the duration of the festival (typically from 8 to 12 days). In any given month, he averaged 2 festivals per month - as they are generally not back-to-back and you need time to disassemble the shop and move it to; either a waiting storage area, or in a rare case (if he was able to find a festival starting within a day or 2 from when the current festival is terminating) he could relocate directly to the next festival site. After selling at 8 distinct festivals, where only 1 made a profit - he had to fold this business idea. He did work his ass off and he did put all of his efforts into it - as he is a very good cook (Thai food - especially Isaan food). The problem, after performing many financial break even spreadsheets for each festival - the average break even point was around 327 noodle boxes per day. Only 1 festival managed to exceed 327 box sales - where at that specific festival many of the 9 days of sales - 500 noodle boxes were sold. Unfortunately at the other 6 to 7 festivals - the average number of product sold per day was between 200 to 250 - thus operating at a loss. The obvious solution was to lower the operating costs - but that was very difficult because: He did not own a car - so the other employee (his best friend) offered his car but it had a loan on it for 10,000 baht per month, Since they were using a car instead of a truck with a secure back storage area - they had to hire a shipping company at the end of each festival to move his store and its possessions to either the franchise owner's house in the outskirts of Bangkok or to my friend's home in Sukhothai. After the beginning of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, fuel costs dramatically increased and consequently this fixed operating cost became more difficult to plan out properly for budgeting purposes. I simulated various financial outcomes where, if he owned a truck with a secure back storage area - he could eliminate some of these fixed costs: no more need to pay the 10k car loan each month, no more need to pay a shipping company to move his store from one festival to a temporary storage holding area (until the next festival starts) and then onto the next festival destination, choosing festivals that had larger flows of people who would attend them - but also in regions of Thailand where the local population has more disposable income, thus resulting in the lowering of the break even from 327 daily products sold down to near 230 daily products sold - thus resulting in creating a profit situation and thus avoiding that the working capital fund gets constantly raided. There is no money to buy a truck with a secure back storage area - so this franchise business had to be sadly abandoned.
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Why Pattaya? and when?
My job had sent me on a work mission to Bangkok and Dhaka in 2012. Prior to that trip I never had any interest in Asia. That trip changed me. 1 year later, I discovered this gayguides.com forum as well as the https://sawatdeenetwork.com/ forum and by reading the gazillions of trip reports posted in these 2 forums - I just knew that I needed to change my vacation destinations from Europe to Asia (mainly Thailand). I think by 2014 I had discovered Pattaya and it was on a particular walk on Dongtan beach - specifically towards the northern part after the gay volleyball area where there is a small pathway that straddles the very narrow beach road that ends at Yinyom Beach (where Phratamnak soi 5 begins) - as shown in the below image. That narrow footpath underneath the trees with a stunning view of Koh Larn off in the distant - grabbed me and I knew that when I would retire that I had to live near Dongtan beach in one of the condos that overlook the Gulf of Thailand. So, it wasn't necessarily Pattaya that I desired but more the Dongtan Beach area of Jomtien. Honestly, I don't like Pattaya city very much - but it is necessary to us in Jomtien, as there is no good shopping in Jomtien and the bigger medical facilities are over in Pattaya city. So, nothing exciting like @Londoner story - it was more a draw to that special moment on that narrow pathway that did it for me. So, 8 years later I realized that retirement dream when I moved from Europe to Dongtan Beach in Jomtien.
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Are the bars dead?
T.i.T = This is Thailand. Either the gay pride parade planners did not take into account the scheduled timetable for pre-scheduled upcoming Alcohol Bans due to religious holidays and/or elections, Or, the Pattaya City municipal authority that granted the parade permits to the gay pride organizers did not inform them. Or, everyone knew, and said f%#k the gay bars and related gay entertainment businesses. I guess we will never know.
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Are the bars dead?
Between 8:30pm and 9pm
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Are the bars dead?
It could have been worse. Yesterday was Pattaya City's annual gay pride and Boyztown was darker than Sunee Plaza. Lights off in Boyztown Somebody f&#ked up with the planning of one of Pattaya's most important events for the local gay community.
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Are the bars dead?
Happy belated Birthday Jim 🎂🍰
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Pattaya International Gay Pride Festival June 2026
Yesterday was the Pattaya International Pride Festival 2026. But before I share my experience at the Pattaya Pride Festival, we need to first insert a missing photo collage/video of the Circuit Festival Asia event that took place in Pattaya on the weekend of 19 - 21 of June 2026, which took place at the fabulous Zign Hotel in Pattaya. www.thezignhotel.com Asia’s Ultimate Gay Dance Festival successfully concluded its 7th edition, which was intentionally timed to coincide with the long weekend in China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong. I did not attend - I don't have the stamina or gym buff body that tends to be a pre-requisite for these types of events. Did any of you attend this event? However, with all of you, I can drool and enjoy the eye candy that were posted on their Instagram pages at: https://www.instagram.com/circuitfestivalasia/reel/DZ1177FJI24/ https://www.instagram.com/circuitfestivalasia/reel/DZ6kC4cp8uM/ We were fortunate yesterday because it was very overcast which kept the hot rays of the sun off of both the parade participants and us spectators. This is my 3rd Pattaya Pride March and what was unique/different this year was that I noticed more participation of Indians. Their section of the parade was quite large. Living here in Pattaya I rarely see gay Indians in the Jomtien Complex or over at the beach. Occasionally, I will see some over in Pattaya city or over on Koh Larn. Perhaps they have their own gay venues and/or hangout places?? or perhaps it was just one of the many Indian Walking Street clubs wanting to show solidarity with the gay community? 20260627_172157.mp4 Regarding the make up of the 82 participating parade entities - very few were gay bars. I noted 2, one from Boyztown = Castro Bar and one from the Jomtien Complex = Fun Bar. From the official list shown below, the majority of the parade participants were; businesses, NGOs, hotels, clubs, etc. I was VERY happy to see that Hornet was an official parade participant. Credit to Christian Köppel for this photo from his FB page, as his photo is much better than mine I found the Dr Tattof Medical Laser Solutions group to be one of the most sexy in the parade: Credit to Christian Köppel for this photo from his FB page, as his photo is much better than mine I never heard of Dr. Tattof in Pattaya - and upon research I discovered that this Bangkok business does have a branch here in Pattaya at Terminal 21. I won't bore you with my millions of photos, that if I uploaded them into our gayguides forum, I fear that they would consume the slowly depleting memory on our server that is perhaps causing the slowness of our forum of lately. So, instead I share some good post-parade social media feeds that can give you a sense of this year's experience: Then after the parade concluded there was the after show over at the Central Festival mall where the politicians and parade officials spoke and then afterwards there were some very sexy models that strutted their stuff (from social media user = bankssensations - found on both Tiktok and Instagram) Afterwards I walked over to Boyztown to see what the annual Pattaya Gay Pride situation looked like: Wow, pretty scary and gloomy - more spooky than Sunee Plaza Boyztown neon marquee turned off = no illumination That was depressing so I took the bahtbus (songthaew) over to Supertown to see what their situation looked like: ah, how encouraging - the lights are on in the Jomtien Complex on Pattaya's Gay Pride night In Boyztown everything was closed but over in Supertown almost everything that was not a bar (restaurants and massage shops) were open for business. I was hungry, so I stopped in the My Favorite Diner and I had meatloaf tonight. There were many customers eating inside. Note that the exterior bar area has its gates down - to comply with the local elections No Alcohol rules. Buenos Mexican was also open with some customers as well as Yupin's. My meatloaf meal Was it good? It was enjoyable. Growing up in the USA, meatloaf tends to come in many varieties - especially if moms are involved. In my situation, my mom used to mix the ground beef with eggs, parsley, cheese, tomato sauce and other spices - it was like an Italian type of meatloaf. But as you explore various parts of the USA the meatloaf tends to be very different. Tonight's meatloaf was fresh and decent - perhaps lacking some spices and/or sauces. Anyway, I have rarely seen meatloaf in Pattaya and I can recommend this one if you are in the mood for a good moist meatloaf. Are the Gay Pride festivities finished in Pattaya = no Tonight at 6pm ends the Alcohol Ban - and tonight will be the next Pattaya Gay Pride event which will take place over at the Lay Beach Club (next to the Hard Rock Cafe) on Beach Road. https://megatix.in.th/events/dreamland-pool-party-at-lay-beach-club-pattaya-house-afro-tech-indie-dance Am I going? No, I am not into this type of house techno dance music. From the above list of DJs you may remember that some of them played in the former Dragon Music Lounge - that went out of business. In my opinion, that place never took off because they did not offer DJs that would play music that us elder farangs like to dance to - Abba, Michael Jackson, Lady Gaga, etc. So, instead, us old folks perform the Jomtien Complex mantra = "farang sit and farang drink". Maybe one day, somebody like our @Olddaddy will open up a proper dance club in the Jomtien Complex?? T-dances?? Disco music ?? Stay tuned for Pride Night in the Jomtien Complex, aka Supertown - which will take place on Saturday July 18, 2026
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Map of Jomtien Complex - Supertown
The official Supertown Complex map has not yet been updated for the many changes that are occurring in the Jomtien Complex at the moment. The last update was in May. From time-to-time the FB administrator of the https://www.facebook.com/groups/supertowngay group makes these updates. I just now crudely (my MS Paint skills are not good) inserted the new Schatzi's restaurant into the May edition of the map. It is physically next to the Boy GaGa bar as shown below. I posted in my above Schatzi review that I paid 580 baht for my meal, cola, and dessert. I can only share with you their public Instagram / Tiktok information as this business entity does not seem to have a web page and/or FB presence: https://www.tiktok.com/@narak.pets.cafe https://www.instagram.com/narakpetscafe/ Regarding the new Indian restaurant there is ZERO visibility about it in any of the social media platforms. The next time that I am walking through that area of Supertown I will ask them if they have any information about their business.
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Love Interest 2026 Update
Great info - thanks for sharing it with us. Did Cam like and enjoy the trip, Chiang Mai, etc.? Has Cam been up north before?
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First Time in Bangkok - May 2026 Trip Report
Great first trip report. I am looking forward to the next segments. Remember for future encounters - that when you feel that you are going to lose control as in cumming prematurely - just tell them to stop and/or slow down or (if language is a barrier) just grab their hand and pull it away - they will understand. Then when you are more calm you can put their hand back onto your meat so that they can continue the pleasure. I myself, if I am over excited - then I can do this 3 times (making them slow down or stop) to make sure that I get a full session - as I am into edging - I like to ride the edge for as long as is possible before releasing just before the session is supposed to end. Remember, you are the customer.
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Pattaya International Gay Pride Festival June 2026
Wow - that image gave me a hearty chuckle. Then afterwards, I thought about how piss warm that beer would become in that jacket in tomorrow's Gay Pride parade 32 degree heat. Yuck!! In less you are into piss warm beer....
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Getting prep medicine
I would suggest for you to add SWING Pattaya to your LINE contact list: @witswing and ask them your questions via LINE. Or, you can use their booking website at: https://testd.website/th?_v=5.0.2&_t=1782469246147 they have a chat room where you can ask your questions. I found the SWING Pattaya team to be very friendly and helpful and they are a proud sponsor of the upcoming Jomtien Complex Pride Night on Saturday 18 June 2026.
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Map of Jomtien Complex - Supertown
After I left the USA in 1999 and I got my first job in Italy in 2002 - I was shocked when they told me that I had 30 days of paid leave (holiday / vacation) time from day one. That is 6 weeks. In the USA I worked in the finance industry and I only had 2 weeks off each year and to get 3 weeks off required 15 years of loyal service. You Europeans are so lucky!!!