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It depends on the way you navigate in our gayguides forum. 99% of the time I use the Unread Content feature - as shown below and I rarely use the hierarchical navigation path by country / region / threads methodology. I really like this navigation approach - as it saves me time and then I only need to click from the list topics/subjects that interest me. Hence why I did not see that there was already a Wise thread in the Cambodia channel. Sorry

Many of our forum readers are sad when they need to leave LOS and return home. Do you sometimes do the below at the gogo bar, massage shop, bar, sauna, hotel, restaurant, etc before heading off to Suvarnabhumi ? https://aseannow.com/thailand-news/foreign-men-bid-thankful-farewell-in-pattaya-r2745/

I was going to suggest that you get a Wise account and Wise debit card before you depart for Cambodia - but after checking with AI it seems that this is not a good additional alternative. In my 4 years here in Thailand - Wise has been a Godsend.

Especially when one of the agents is the same as your lovely 💓

I am the same as you. My wallet stays in my condo safe lockbox 99% of the time. It only comes out when I need to travel or go to immigration or to see my visa agent. Thanks to you Vinapu - I have implemented the different denominations are in different pockets safety protocol. One pocket is dedicated with laminated copies of original ID documents - 2 Thai driving licenses, passport ID and visa expiration pages, and global insurance card. If any are lost/stolen then the originals are safely in the condo safe box. If the police want to see the original driving license they instead get to see the legally valid digital version on the Thai DLT QR Licence app: So far so good 🤞🍀

Excellent report. They truly have a nice collection of masseurs at this specific branch. https://www.motionspa3.com/pherlatist

In my 4 years here - when I have volunteered to meetup with visiting forum members at the gay Dongtan Beach - often they are in the section that they believe is the gay zone. Dongtan Beach extends for more than 1km from where the Dongtan Beach Police Box is all the way up north towards Phratamnak at Yinyom Beach. The gay beaches are concentrated to the left and right of the core gay beach concession / station #20 - known as Rainbow Beach - as shown in the below picture. So, when forum members tell me to come and meet them at the gay beach they are often in the beginning section at concession / stations #45 - #38. Yes, gay people may be found in these sections but as you can see from the below map, these beach stations are quite far from the core gay beach section #20. When I ask why they did not walk all the way to the gay beach they often reply = "it is too far from my hotel in the Jomtien Complex, aka Supertown". I walk these sections almost every day and it is no more than 10 to 15 minutes to walk from The Venue or The Agate hotels in the complex over to beach concession / station #20 - the core gay beach section. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057525486466 If you don't like walking you can always take a Grab/Bolt motorbike or car over to the gay beach from the Jomtien Complex. And around sunset, it is also fun to walk a little bit further north to the gay volleyball section to see the guys play. It is also a fun place to meet fun guys. https://www.facebook.com/1458082509/videos/pcb.1757667478196022/1360118456116642

Thanks PeterRS for including this additional background information. I remember very well that era of Ronald Reagan and "Just Say No" Nancy Reagan. https://lgbthotline.org/documentary-review-rock-hudson-all-that-heaven-allowed/ The gay community put enormous pressure on Rock Hudson to come out of the closet and to help the larger gay AIDS research and funding movement. He was close friends with Nancy Reagan and she refused to help him - in his moment of dire need - when he went over to Europe in 1985 to continue his experimental HIV/AIDS treatments (HPA-23) when he needed urgent White House intervention which was refused. HBO produced a very illuminating Rock Hudson documentary in 2023 that discusses all of this. The trailer can be seen at:

And this is exactly why the Thai Massage Insider forums had to move over to Telegram - as they could not control what the membership might write in the LINE forum space about massage guys that might violate LINE's policy.

I have been taken to 2 specific (very small) beaches where I saw nudity being practiced with my own eyes here in the Kingdom. One was on nearby Koh Larn and I was taken there by a local Thai guy. It is a very ugly beach and there were 3 guys laying on the sand naked in a very kind of hidden way. 2 of the 3 were Russian and they were masturbating each other - it was hot to see. The other guy looked like a German or Swiss guy. Me and my Thai friend - we remained with our bathing suits on - as I am well aware that this is forbidden in the Kingdom. Behind the shoreline there was a type of bushy area where there was 1 Thai guy walking back and forth - as if he was hoping someone who was naked from the shoreline would go back into the bushes. We only stayed for about 1 hour - as that beach is unpleasant (extremely rocky) and very far from the area where you can swim. The other place that I saw nudity was on Koh Samui and I had visited a massage shop that was then owned by a Swiss guy and I told him that I was looking for any local gay tour guides to show me the more hidden parts of Koh Samui. So, on the following day he took me in his car to a remote part of the island where we walked for a long time on an abandoned boardwalk that was overgrown with bush and weeds that took us to an abandoned type of hotel near a small beautiful cove. There it was very pleasant and very remote and hidden. There I actually got naked and I joined my Swiss guide in the sea to swim naked together. There were about 3 other people there all naked. I would never be able to find this place again as it was very remote and only known to the local Koh Samui-ins. There is a gay nude resort on Koh Samui and its name is Alpha Gay Resort: https://alphagayresort.com/ I have never stayed there. Has anyone stayed there or can tell us more?

@Ruthrieston - wow many thanks for sharing those incredible memories. I remember seeing different variations of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. The closest interaction that I had with them was during my years when I lived in Denver, Colorado and I was a member of the local RMR - Rocky Mountain Rainbeaus. A couple times during the year there would be a Square Dancing convention and/or Gay Rodeo events, and often members of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence would show up at these events. I personally was able to Square Dance with some of them and I saw with my own eyes some of them riding animals at the Gay Rodeo events. It was something that you could never forget.

And the winner is = Sudjai Massage shop - which just opened. I inserted the store marque on top of the photo as the real one is still inside the shop https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61591910247066 extracted from their FB page Everything is sparkling clean and brand new (see FB images). There were 2 masseur guys there waiting for you. I truly wish them luck - because inside the Jomtien Complex as well as outside on the exterior perimeter - there is now a plethora of massage shops for us to all enjoy.

SWING Pattaya published this promotional video today to promote the upcoming Pride Night and Parade in the Jomtien Complex, aka Supertown on Saturday July 18, 2026: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1664592091292372

You are not alone @Mavica. I totally empathize with your sentiment. That was an AWFUL period to live through. I lost around 50% of my friends in those years and spent many a visit at Sloan Kettering, St. Vincent's Hospital in Greenwich Village, Mount Sinai, and many others. You had to helplessly watch your friends die a painful death because in those years there was only FDA approved AZT available - which was very toxic. Alternative solutions were only available in Mexico or over in Europe - If you haven't seen the movie, Dallas Buyers Club, I highly recommend it as it dives into this dilemma. Fortunately (or unfortunately) my sex life in those years (1982 - 1990) was stunted, because the bath houses, saunas, sex clubs, warehouse district venues that were used for sex were already closed down by the NYC Health Department. The only type of venues that were allowed were safe sex clubs and that is how I started my coming out years - at the New York Jacks - which probably saved my life. So, in those formative years, I became a part-time activist - fighting with the government to obtain proper AIDS research funding and to get the FDA to allow for alternatives to the toxic AZT. Eventually we prevailed, but after much death, heartache and frustration. @Mavica I also went through this pain and I discovered that there were therapy groups that were created to deal with this dilemma - which was given the label; "survivor's remorse" or "survivor's guilt". This guilt lingered with me for so many years that when in 1998 I saw that the Denver Public Health was looking for volunteers for a potential AIDS vaccine - I jumped at the chance to volunteer my body to participate. It lasted for 3 years and I had to conclude the last year of the trials in Amsterdam (which was administered by the GG&GD), because in May 1999 I had left the USA for Rome, Italy. My trial participation ended in November 2001. Then in early 2002, it was revealed to us if we received the placebo or the vaccine, AIDSVAX B/B. I was told that I received the vaccine. Unfortunately, the vaccine was deemed to not demonstrate protective efficacy. By participating in this vaccine trial it greatly helped reduce my survivor's guilt. I was asked by Denver Public Health if I would volunteer to go on the 9News (KUSA) to state to the media why I would volunteer to do this. At the time I worked for a conservative bank - so we braced the clients who were assigned to me about this news interview (as it would be like a public coming out and to reinforce that I was not HIV positive to said clients). On TV I simply stated, "I am volunteering myself to this vaccine trial because I want to give back to the 50% of my friends who died from AIDS". VaxGen gave all of us participants a card that we were to show to HIV testing centers in rare cases that we would falsely test positive - as they would then be instructed to perform a different type of test which would reveal our true HIV status. In all of the years that I was tested for HIV I never tested "falsely positive" or "positive". Hallelujah!

Thanks for this update Jimmie. I am biting my nails about this informal border crossing that Cam needs to make. Please let us know that Cam safely gets to the other side. 🙏😇👍🤩

Many versions of what happened being posted: https://thepattayanews.com/2026/07/08/fitness-influencer-connor-murphy-dies-at-32-in-thailand-lake-drowning-prior-2024-pattaya-assault-allegations-resurface/ https://aseannow.com/topic/1398258-american-dies-after-jumping-into-bang-phli-lake/ @Suckrates or @unicorn - do either of you have any more photos of this guy in your collections? He seems to allegedly have had a sordid past here.

Excellent post @macaroni21. 🤩 I wish there was a way within our board to post your very well written reply at the TOP of all of the threads. If only, our board/forum was reorganized by categories; massage, gogo bars, saunas, restaurants, hotels, etc. for a given city - then this post could be at the TOP of the massage thread for all of the City/Massage combinations in our forum. I would add one more additional information point. This forum is very useful when our forum members post their trip reports and often reveal what took place in the massage room with a certain masseur. That type of intelligence can help you better choose your masseur. Another useful information source (about what a masseur will and will not do) can be found within the Thai run massage forums. I wrote about them in the below thread (look for my reply to MichaelJay70). The forum owners review random massage shops with a specific masseur and often allude to what the masseur is willing to do behind closed doors. Also, within the new Telegram chat group feature, the members share masseur and massage shop details and opinions amongst each other. Note that everything is written in Thai, but if you activate the AI auto translate feature then you can follow along in English. Also, once you are in the room with your masseur - if he cannot understand/speak your language feel free to use Google translate on your phone to create the possibility for a good session - but remembering what macaroni21 wrote above = give face.

Hi @emiel1981 welcome back from your usual hibernation. This is not true. There is a general rule as follows: Bangkok's pride parade kicks off their pride festivities before the hinterland cities do in Thailand. Generally, the last Saturday/Sunday of May or the first Saturday/Sunday of June is the pride parade in Bangkok. Pattaya city's pride parade is always after Bangkok's pride parade and is usually the last Saturday of June. The only aberration this year was for Jomtien - as its pride parade and pride night festivities are usually held on the 2nd Saturday of June - but due to funding issues by one of the major sponsors (SWING Pattaya) it was postponed (after SWING Pattaya was able to find funding) to the third Saturday of July - with the actual date being Saturday July 18, 2026. Emiel, if you want to catch up on what Pattaya's gay pride of June 2026 was like, there is a specific thread to all of the events that took place at: Emiel, enjoy World Pride 2026 in Amsterdam with the fabulous Canal Parade on August 1, 2026. Thailand has submitted its request to host the World Pride 2030 in Bangkok - but it is in competition with Barcelona - the host city winner will be announced in January 2027.

Miscellaneous update = I have been told that the formerly vacant shop shown below is now under construction to open as another bar in the Jomtien Complex, aka Supertown. anyone know what it's name will be?

I can confirm that My Favorite Diner in the Jomtien Complex, aka Supertown is now officially open for breakfast: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61574355724494 Today, July 8, 2026 - I decided to have my breakfast here (normally I rotate through my other favorite breakfast/lunch places; Cococannelle, Tinnies, O Delices, or SunFlour - 1st 3 are in Supertown and SunFlour is over in Pratamnak). Also, it is anticipated that within the next 2 weeks, the new Schatzi's German restaurant will also open for breakfast. I ordered the Grand Slam Breakfast (Denny's anybody?) and it was an overabundance of yummy breakfast food at only 175 baht. Iced Cappucino and water were extra. The breakfast included hash browns, 2 eggs, biscuits & gravy, bacon (not shown in the below photo), pancakes, jam, butter, syrup and some cookies. Grand Slam Breakfast in Supertown I haven't had biscuits and gravy in perhaps 10 years - so it was nice to taste those again - especially as these included that subtle tangy bite without going over the top. This large breakfast was so filling I just went home to sleep it off. Their breakfast menu selections also include; french toast, pancakes, waffles, steak & eggs and many other traditional American breakfast items. I arrived around 10:15am - (it opens at 9:30am for breakfast service) and there were only 2 tables of customers - as we all know many of us Supertown partiers like to sleep in - so I would imagine that it will take some time for a breakfast following to discover this gem. Recently, the famous local Youtuber, Jason Rupp - posted a Youtube short about his meal in My Favorite Diner:

It depends. With the strong anti-defamation rules in LOS - often the truth about things are either opaque or hidden from us. If you live here full time - it is often refreshing to see a Youtube blogger (who lives outside of Thailand) post something that you know is the truth (that you have experienced by living here) but are not allowed to discuss or dare to write down and share for public consumption - especially if you are a foreigner. Here are some examples: New entries to the PFC (Pattaya Flying Club). The local press will often report on what happened by explicitly avoiding to use the word "jump" - instead, preferring to use the term "fell". These locally written articles only have 1 round - and 90% of the time there is no follow up information. So, if you are curious to learn/know more you need to do it yourself - until you are politely asked to STOP - as we have an image to protect. Over time, this type of societal censorship makes you become a censorship conformist yourself because you don't want to create issues with those you see everyday. What I have learned by living here - if you want information about these awful events you need to do so within the first 48 to 72 hours of said event. Within that time horizon there is a frenzy of gossip (especially amongst the Thais - they are the best sources - especially in person if noone else is around or in their Thai FB posts) until a type of edict and/or mandate goes out that states that what has happened - happened - and we need to protect our image and gossiping or talking about those inconvenient truths is no longer permitted. So, with that learned reality - I have discovered that I need to move fast to gain information that will never be published by the journalists - often I cannot move too fast in the first days because when a PFC event occurs (especially if it is in the building where I live) I am often shell shocked and depressed - thus reducing my ability to make a quick investigation. Events that are criticized by Thai journalists - Recently here in Pattaya - there was a rapidly put together type of gathering (the word protest was interestingly not used) by the local community which occured at the Bali Hai pier area of Pattaya. The name of this "gathering" was labeled as "SAVE PATTAYA". https://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-community-demands-apology-over-mafia-city-claims-556345 As I am not Thai and I cannot understand the Thai language - I missed the Thai TV broadcast where this "mafia town" broadcast was made - the source of the irritation of the local citizens of Pattaya. Once I started investigating what happened (thanks to the availability of translation apps) I found the written source of the comment that sparked this local uproar but I was never able to find the video to the TV show in Bangkok where these remarks were made verbally. I was fascinated to learn more about this popular Thai journalist media personality. https://x.com/sirotek Below is the written representation from July 2, 2026 that gave cause to the "SAVE PATTAYA" gathering on Friday July 3, 2026. In my 4 years of living here I have rarely seen people be named with these types of allegations. The involved bank was intentionally not named - as I would imagine that this would be considered as "going over the top". What I can't understand is why Pattaya has received the "mafia gang" label when the issue of "mule accounts" was deemed a national problem, that the BOT (Central Bank of Thailand) had to intervene last year from August - September 2025, where they froze or suspended around 3 million bank accounts - of which it was discovered that around 177,000 bank accounts were actually core mule accounts - around 6%. I have tried to investigate what percent of those 177,000 bank accounts were linked to Pattaya but I was not successful. So, I can kind of understand the irritation of the local Pattaya citizens - especially when this "mule account" issue was on a national level and not specific to Pattaya. Pattaya is found in Chon Buri - one of 77 individual provinces in Thailand. Lastly, here is the link to the actual arrest video that took place on July 1, 2026 https://x.com/Pancakecy/status/2072279739117572485 which then started the spiral of all of these events. So my point with this 2nd example is that the local journalists (often farangs) cannot or will not provide the in-depth background information that you desire - to help you to understand what is really going on. My understanding is that the 2 primary local farang newspapers do not want to take on unnecessary journalistic risk and will instead provide a superficial type of reporting. It is up to you to follow-up with your own investigations - until you are made to understand that your enthusiastic investigative spirit may not be appreciated - so you learn to self-censorship. But, when you see someone on Youtube who lives outside of Thailand do a deep dive - it is sometimes refreshing to know and/or confirm what you believed all along but are not allowed to express.

Paytaya news sources are reporting a very low season for this year 2026. https://thepattayanews.com/2026/07/02/pattaya-struggles-in-prolonged-low-season-as-tourism-declines-sharply-say-prominent-tourism-associations/ "....local tourism association claims a 20-30% decline in tourists, with some hotels seeing occupancy as low as 15%, though broader industry data from May 2026 indicates rates of 30-40% , well below the typical low-season benchmark of 60-70%."

Perhaps. When I wrote the above, my definition of "original" was from my point of view when I first saw them perform in Boyztown - when the 9pm red carpet BoyzBoyzBoyz parade was still popular. In the B-Boys group that is performing in M2M - someo of those guys are the same guys that I saw years back in Boyztown. As I am fairly new to Pattaya - I do not know which year gave birth to the B-Boys concept. But, of lately, in years 2025 and 2026 there are many B-Boy copy cats - and they just are not as good as the "original" breakdance team. One for sure I can definitely remember - because I had a rejection scar from when I was constantly trying to off him and he had to put me in my place that his answer was always going to be no. Now we politely smile at each other and I don't persist anymore.

For those who are into the sex appeal of the original B-Boy dancers - they will now regularly appear at the M2M cabaret bar in the Jomtien Complex on Wednesday and Saturday nights. There are many other copy-cat types of imitators around - but these are the real deal. In my opinion, many of the imitator breakdance groups are not as good as the original B-Boys.

I would say that it is the quietest low season since covid - from the gay ghetto point of view. There are other members in our forum who recently posted that some areas over in Pattaya City (around Terminal 21) were very busy. Just the other day, the below Twitter (X) user posted this interesting tidbit: https://x.com/iashsethi The biggest spending tourists in Thailand are all from the Middle East. Average length of stay 10-12 days. 52% of Thailand's foreign tourism revenue comes from 8 countries: China, Russia, Malaysia, India, UK, Germany, USA, and South Korea (~$25B out of $48B). I would agree with the above statistics that he posted - especially when you move around to the various parts of Pattaya. In the central and northern parts of Pattaya city you definitely see and feel the presence of Chinese tourists. However, I would say that the Russians are more concentrated in the Phratamnak neighborhood on soi 7 - as the primary language on the signage on that street is in Russian and soi 7 ends at what I believe is the largest Russian night market in Pattaya: This Russian night market is very close to where Guido's G's Pratamnak restaurant will be Many Russians can also be found throughout Jomtien and also in the Sansuk sauna: https://sansukthailand.com/