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Wow Marc - I could not have said it better. Yes, the joy of going to Boyztown was the UNEXPECTED - not knowing what pleasant and tantalizing surprise was coming your way --> and this was the MAGIC of the place to make you want to come back for more and more and more.... To add to what you wrote above - also the noise level has become ear threatening. I can only enter BBB now with ear plugs and I hate wearing them as you get a distorted perception and unpleasant reality. The last time that I entered into BBB without ear plugs I had constant ringing in my ears for days and in my left ear I temporarily lost 50% of my ability to hear from it - it eventually was back to normal after one week. That is too high a price to pay for mediocre entertainment. Marc - these are your BEST words yet. I try in vain to say the same words to my Thai friends in the Jomtien Supertown Complex but they always reply to me: you too farang - you do not understand the Thai ways, the old people that come to Supertown do not use technology, in Thai society it is not correct to go against what everybody else is doing - when I bitch about the stale mantra of 'farang sit and farang drink" And Marc, I would add to your list a place for us old-farts to dance to our generational music - but at early hours like from 8pm until midnight - that would be a Godsend - as it would get us up on our feet and out of those boring chairs and get us to have some physical action - which can only be good for our health - a win win for everybody - we can live longer, get healthy, and have fun, and the Thais can get more satangs from us before we pass on to the next life.....

Thanks everybody for your feedback and opinions. Regarding PDE5 inhibitors, I have been on these for many years already and they are starting to have diminishing returns. I also hate the side effects; diarrhea, bloated bowels, and sometimes head pain. I also hate that it makes sex less spontaneous. Also, when mixed with alcohol the side effects are worse. I decided on the TRT treatment because of the success that the local Youtube star, Buzzin Pattaya, has had with it and consequently I have been in contact with other TRT beneficiaries and although it does not work for everyone - I want to give it a fair shot - like for 3 to 4 months. This week I passed my 1 month mark and the new blood results just came back and my testosterone level prior to starting these TRT treatments was a poor 285, which is under the minimum for proper sexual and libido activity. As of my post 1 month blood results, the testosterone has jumped up to 525, however it is still well below the optimal target of 1,000 - where the range should be from 900 to 1200 for optimal sexual arousal, libido, and performance. Many of you wrote that going to the gym is very helpful and my TRT doctor said the same and I immediately enrolled in a local Jomtien gym with a personal trainer to get me going after 10 long years of non-gym activity. Olddaddy - in the TRT program that I am in - they give you an estrogen blocker with each testosterone injection to avoid enlarged breast tissue. My dosage is 175 mg 2 times a week and yours was 250 mg - 42% more than my dosage. My erections are improving - but I am still not yet satisfied - as their advertising stated - have the libido and erection of a 22 year old. At this stage where I am at 525 I am feeling like I have the libido of a 52 year old (I will be 63 soon) and the erection of a 55 year old - albeit an improvement, but still a long way to go. But I still have 2 to 3 more months to go before I can critique the outcome. Another positive is that my blood pressure has moved into a normal range as I suffer from hypertension - I believe this is a direct benefit of the intense gym workouts. None of you have commented on the Shockwave Therapy. Anybody have anything to share? https://heclinics.com/shockwave-therapy-for-erectile-dysfunction-in-bangkok/

Hi Marc308, What is your opinion on the current format in year 2024 of BBB ? I agree that back in the day, Jim got it right - BBB was the proper good anchor to Boyztown - especially with the 9pm marching parade of the delicious sexy guys. It was truely tantalizing. Nowadays, BBB has become boring - as it is primarily focused on the Chinese tourist bus trade with screaming women. The sexy guy parade is long gone. Boyztown has lost its former excitement.

yes, Hole in One ? 😈

Perhaps ? Mark bar Or Divarium

Amen to those words. I often dreaded Xmas time with people that made me uneasy - especially when the booze started flowing. So, Xmas in any other place - even if alone - was a GREAT alternative to the status quo. 😇

This was recently posted in the Gay Supertown Twitter (X) feed: So Olddaddy, you can add this Jomtien Complex bar (Divarium Cafe Bar & Restaurant) to the list of available bars. I think that you should also add the former Double Shot - as it looks totally abandoned - it was my favorite bar in the Complex. The Double Shot bar would make a great dance bar 👍🤩

I stand corrected and more importantly - I am happy to hear this. Too bad the 2 biggest anchors of Boyztown, BoyzBoyzBoyz and Boyz Music were not there ? There is still some hope as we have the 2nd Pattaya PRIDE event, "Pride for All" on Saturday 22 June 2024 🤞

I know that this is a delicate and can be embarrassing subject - but has anyone tried any of the ED (Erectile Dysfunction) therapies? TRT - Testosterone Replacement Therapy Shockwave Therapy ED Direct injections into the muscle part of the penis Are there other ED treatments available? other types of ED therapies? I recently started with the first option = TRT - here in Pattaya at https://www.wellthymeclinic.com/ after I saw the below 2 Youtube videos put out by Buzzin Pattaya. I am only 1 month into my new TRT treatments and there have been some positive results. The down side is that you need to go to the clinic twice a week to get the testosterone injections into your ass cheeks. Is it a "pain in the ass" - hahaha - a slight pain like a prolongated mosquito bite that lasts for a couple of seconds. Once a month you get your blood/urine work done so that they can monitor all of your levels - so it is a holistic health strategy. Doctor from the clinic told me to join a gym as that will also help and I immediately joined the Jomtien Fitness gym and now I have a personal trainer. I want to make the best out of this embarrassing situation and to get back into the swing of things and I want the POWER of our AMAZING Vinapu - my hero. Knowing this group - I am prepared for the ridicule - but if any of you are serious and know of other options and which one was the most successful for you I would be truly appreciated to know about it - and perhaps other members may also benefit. Thanks 😘

Thanks for this suggestion. Just now - I asked permission to be let into that Twitter group = ''onlyasianguy''

A small review of the Pattaya Community Pride 2024 event which took place yesterday, 8 June 2024. The parade route started from the famous Colosseum Show Pattaya building on Thepprasit road and wound its way onto Thappraya road until its termination point at our beloved gay Dongtan beach. I believe that this marching route is approximately 2km and should take approximately 24 minutes under normal walking circumstances. Fellow forum member, JD100 and I arrived around 5pm to the Dongtan beach police box and the parade was just starting to arrive at its destination. This is where it started at the Colosseum: This is where it ended at Dongtan beach. Parade arriving into the Dongtan beach area. 20240608_171008.mp4 Then for like 2 hours there were people up on the stage talking about a million things (90% in Thai). Many important local gay people, drag queens, parade organizers, SWING presenters and staff, Pattaya mayor, etcetra. --> I believe that the Pattaya mayor is the gentleman seated with the rainbow spiral t-shirt. Then the speeches concluded and the fireworks started. By this moment - around 7pm, JD100 and I were hungry so we went to get a bit to eat in the nearby SINT restaurant. Unfortunately, I discovered today that once the presenters and politicians got off the stage they transformed the stage into a type of best drag/ladyboy competition and then with some cool bands and dancing ensued. Screen_Recording_20240609_172604_X.mp4 After dinner, we entered the Jomtien Supertown Complex at the Thappraya entrance (where the Poseidon is) and there was a stage at the entrance and it was heaving with people dancing. Then we strolled through the complex towards The Venue and then at the turn left - there was another stage setup with music and people dancing. We got past that to our final destination at the junction with Soda Massage where there was another stage of people dancing and having a ton of fun. So, we plopped ourselves here to watch the fun and participate somewhat. In summary, I was VERY impressed - as this was my FIRST Gay Pride event in Thailand since retiring here 18 months prior. Everything was well organized, very entertaining, and too many things to do (which is good) - as you could not be everywhere in one moment - especially with the 4 entertainment stages that were setup - 3 inside the Supertown complex and 1 over at the Dongtan beach. I believe that the Thai government has petitioned to host the 2030 World Pride - and I participated as a volunteer in the year 2000 World Pride event when I lived in Rome, Italy, and it is estimated that we had close to 1 million visitors for that event. So, if Thailand can do the same for 2030 that will be amazing. If I am still here in 2029/2030 I will definitely volunteer my time towards this event - especially in the area of putting things in English - as this Pattaya Community Pride 2024 event was starved of available information in English. I will try to report on the NEXT 2nd Pattaya PRIDE festivities that are scheduled for 22 June 2024 under the label = "Pride for All". If any of you have a clue about why: there is this fracture within the Pattaya gay community = 2 separate gay pride parades and festivals, Boyztown is absent in the celebration of these events. Please let us all know. A similar fracture occurred in Rome, Italy during the years 1999/2000 leading up to the year 2000 World Pride event, when the gay community split into 2 distinct factions: Circolo Mario Miele and the associated Muccassasina, Arcigay. https://www.wikipink.org/index.php/World_Pride_Roma_2000 Many say that the Vatican had their fingers in this gay splinter because they were angry with the gay community to organize the FIRST World Pride ever during the same year as the Catholic Jubilee. What happened in Pattaya ?

wow - please promise to make one of these bars allow for dancing to good non techno music and that we can dance before midnight. A weekly or twice weekly T-Dance would be fantastic - like from 8pm until midnight

This is one of the BIG mysteries here in Pattaya. Back in the heyday - the 2 BIG entertainment centers were Sunee Plaza and Boyztown. Sunee fell from grace with the never ending police raids and now exists with just 3 or 4 bars Boyztown was perhaps the PRIME area for the gay life in Pattaya - back in the day. Now Boyztown (well at least the 2 main anchors = BoyzBoyzBoyz and Boyz Music) are primarily catering to the Chinese bus tour crowd and us non-Chinese bus tour people are overlooked. So, it would appear that there is a historical shift taking place from: Sunee Plaza --> to Boyztown --> now to Jomtien Supertown Complex This was evident at yesterday's 8 June 2024 Pattaya Community Pride event - there was ZERO / nada presence of anything from Boyztown. Instead this event was participated and sponsored by SWING, Supertown, and the Pattaya Mayor's office. To me this is sad that Boyztown chooses to not participate in yesterday's Pride event. There will be a second Pattaya Pride event on 22 June 2024 - so, we will see if Boyztown will step up to the plate for that event - but it is sponsored by Pattana - the owner of the Central Festival shopping mall.

Maybe everyone is on their way to Pattaya - as we will celebrate the first of 2 Gay Pride festivities, tomorrow 08 June 2024.

Here in Pattaya, due to the popularity of these types of deaths, they have coined the phrase, "Pattaya Flying Club". Even my lawyer, when I solicited for him to prepare my Thai Last Will & Testament - told me to be cautious to share the beneficiary list with those listed to avoid any temptations to join the "Pattaya Flying Club". Crazy stuff.... https://www.thairomeo.com/pattaya-flying-club.html https://www.reddit.com/r/Pattaya/comments/eogq6l/is_the_pattaya_suicide_club_just_a_meme/ https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thai-american-teen-becomes-latest-addition-to-pattaya-flying-club

Back in 2017 I had a great trip in South Korea and I used the strategy displayed in the below link to make the best of it.

also note that the mamasans or managers of our guys - also can provide other services to them, such as: loans, pay day advances, banking, police / immigration payments, etcetra I knew of a bar guy who could not properly manage his money and also he did not do the required military service and was blocked from banking (I am not sure in what capacity), and the mamasan took care of these extra services for the guys that required it from her.

Dear Pantherz, I totally agree with your assessment. I also found this recent iteration of the proposed tax revenue collection ideas as absurd. Back in 2020 and 2021, when I was studying where do I want to retire in 2022, the positive tax climate that Thailand had was a BIG reason as to why I chose Thailand. Now with these new tax proposals - Thailand is becoming less appealing - as being a USA citizen, we already suffer from Citizen Based Taxation - which is already global. So to add Thailand to this list would just be too excessive in my opinion. So, I have started to research possible ideas on how to mitigate this - by finding ways to not be a tax resident in Thailand by dividing my residence between: 4 months in Thailand, 4 months in Da Nang, Vietnam, 4 months in either Penang, Malaysia or in The Philippines - I have not yet been to either so I will work towards exploring these 2 areas before the 2025 tax year. Any other ideas to consider?

In X-Boys Pattaya - yes, there is a BIG cock show and also a fucking show.

Sorry guys - I will not tolerate these comments!! After going to the Sloan Kettering hospital in Manhattan many times during the 1980s and watching your loved friends die in so much pain and agony - often exacerbated by the hostile and caustic AZT, it was too much to bear. This was well documented in the Dallas Buyers Club movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Buyers_Club about all of the less caustic and painful alternatives that were available in Mexico but were blocked in the USA. After losing 50% of my friends to AIDS in the 1980s and early 1990s, I suffered from "survivor's remorse" and I volunteered my body to science under the experimental clinical trials for Vaxgen in 1997, 1998, and 1999 - where for every 6 months we had to be share with the scientists all of our sexual encounters, types of sex, protected or not, etc. and get injected with the Vaxgen vaccine. In the year 2000 after the conclusion of the study, we were told that it was only 17% effective and deemed to be a failure. We were also told if we were in the placebo group or in the non-placebo group - I was in the non-placebo group and I was given a special card to show to the future medical authorities - as I could test false positive for AIDS and I was to show this Vaxgen card so that they would know that it is the result of the vaccine study trials. I was asked to go onto Denver TV to say why did I volunteer my body for this Vaxgen trial and I responded: "After watching so many of my friends die from AIDS in such a painful and violent way with AZT - I just had to do something in the memory of my lost friends....." So, when you JUDGE me because I complain about the insensitivity of Dr. Fauci and the USA blocking the alternative medicines that were available in Mexico at that time, I ask to all of you - what personal sacrifice did you make to help with AIDS research??

wow TotallyOz - what a great find. I would love to go with DANU - he looks awesome

macaroni21, these are excellent ideas. We need this SO badly also here in Pattaya as soo many of the places are stale and boring - as if to watch the paint dry. There is little imagination for good entertainment and/or experimentation. They just rely on the standard mantra of "falang sit - falang drink" Your list of above ideas creates customer participation in the bar and can allow for you to get up close and personal with the bar staff - a GREAT way to break the ice instead of the standard - what would you like to drink mister with the drink menu shoved into your face For example, at the X-Boys Pattaya go-go bar - during one of the shows where they actually have 1 act where they get a customer to come up onto the page to be sensually / sexually intrigued - the customer was SO good that I stood up during the show and I put 100 baht - using the Vinapu Tuck - into the customers belt. The customer who was up on the stage was very surprised by my gesture, the seated customers in the audience, and also the guys up on the stage - all loved it. Why not - let us also participate in the fun and excitement of the evening.

What you say is so true - I lost around 50% of my friends due to AIDS or due to the nasty side effects of AZT (thanks Dr. Fauci).

I love your itinerary. I also don't like much the bar scene because my best sex at my age occurs between 9am and 9pm. If I bring someone home from the bars after 9pm and after some drinks there is a high probability that my money will be wasted. So, your itinerary is perfect for me.

Hi maump, I also have a Samsung - but a Samsung S23 - I only justify to buy a new Samsung every 3 years. But with the recent One UI OS software upgrade - which includes some of the AI features that were released in S24, they are now available to us in S23 and perhaps even in other previous Samsung models. Below is a screenshot example of this NEW Samsung AI feature activated within one of the many Thai massage Line chat groups that I am a member of. r To find more information about these Thai massage groups - I wrote about it on 27 January 2024 in a post initiated by Olddaddy. https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/40375-is-the-gay-scene-dying-off/page/5/#comment-372916 So, I believe that you can already take advantage of this new AI auto translate feature right now without having to buy a new Samsung phone. Enjoy.