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good point Olddaddy - after an argument with my ex boyfriend at around 2am in the morning, I had to walk home from up the hill towards the Supertown complex and I passed that soi dog area - there was only 1 growling and snarling at me and I shooed him away. But he went into the forest and brought 5 of his friends with him - 3 in front of me and 3 behind me and all growling and snarling ready to attack me. So, what did I do? I ran out into the Thappraya road traffic and the dogs did not follow me as the soi dogs fear Thappraya road - the cars swerved around me but I was not attacked and bitten. So, as you suggested - always walk on the non beach side of Thappraya road - as there are NO crazy soi dogs on that side of Thappraya road....

or perhaps because the majority of the bars follow the tired long time mantra of: farang sit and farang drink which gets to be very boring without some exciting innovations and/or entertainment and fun.......

That was Dorothy's Show bar on the ground floor and a related hotel on the upper floors.....but that is now closed as of 2 nights ago...

I do not know in which version of this Jomtien Complex map that I saw - perhaps in the Supertown version - there was once 35 bars listed. I believe that this most recent edition counts 33 - so, even though around 7 went out of business, it would seem that 5 of those 7 were already replaced. And, 1 more is on the way: replacement for Dorothy's Show Bar to be known as ??? So, even though it is the dreaded low season (from a cash flow point of view) the Complex seems to be holding up....

The only strategy to get a hunk in Pattaya, like you can easily find in Bangkok, is to wait at the toll booths that are just outside of Pattaya on the highway from Bangkok and try to commandeer one before he arrives into twink heaven Pattaya.

Wow. I am sorry that this happened to you. Often when I meet the local guys here in Pattaya, they often want to know when am I going to go back home to faranglandia. I always ask why? They reply, because they want me to bring them with me and they often get disappointed when I tell them that Thailand is now my home.

https://www.facebook.com/ThaiEnquirer/videos/love-pride-parade-2024/1422012658508238/ https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/thailand-thailand-held-its-pride-parade-2024-the-biggest-in-asia/vi-BB1ps44c

not in this case - as the bar beside is Dorothy's Showbar and it closed for good last night (as reported above). So, 2 closed bars side-by-side

also note that if the guy is not freelance - then often he needs to pay an off fee to the massage shop if he goes off-site for a home delivery take out service.

Before I relocated to Thailand for my retirement, I set up a new bank account as my remittance conduit account to fund my new Thai retiree life. To satisfy this Thai Revenue Department requirement for the exemption on pre-2024 income, I will use the FIFO (First In First Out) methodology. Therefore, what I sent to Thailand will be the "oldest" of my funds first. Eventually, this methodology will run out as the FIFO methodology will exhaust those funds that were prior to pre-2024 income. Hopefully, I can get 1 or 2 more tax years of this useful use of this exemption to avoid the Assessable Income issue that arises from incoming remittances. However, as Victor mentions above, we need to stay aware of additional changes regarding Thai income tax - especially if the government will officially adopt the World-Wide Income tax regime.

Some positive news everybody. Based on the article that @reader shared with us above written by Victor Wong - I wrote to Victor to see if he would agree with my short term tax strategy. It seems that he does and I am happy to share what he wrote below. This is truly a breath of fresh air to reduce my anxiety regarding this entire ugly tax topic. == 06-Jul-2024 response from Victor Wong, regarding one way to take advantage of the Thai Revenue Department exemption regarding remittances into Thailand == Dear bkkmfj, Thank you for reaching out and for your kind words about my article in the Pattaya Mail. I’m glad to hear it has been useful to you as you plan your tax strategy here in Thailand. Regarding your question about advance funding your Thai bank account, based on the exemption you've cited, here is my understanding: The Thai Revenue Department’s exemption for pre-2024 income does indeed provide a grace period allowing taxpayers to adjust to the new rules by transferring income earned before January 1, 2024, into Thailand by the end of 2024 without it being subject to the new remittance tax rules. As per the Revenue Department's order P.O. 162/2566, income generated from foreign sources before the year 2567 (2024) is exempt from tax if it is brought into Thailand starting from the year 2567 (2024) onwards, regardless of the year it is brought in. This policy aims to allow income to be realized this year, before January 1, 2567 (2024), ensuring that if you bring this income into Thailand in a different tax year—specifically from 2567 onwards—you will not be subject to personal income tax as per Revenue Department order P.O. 161/2566. The Revenue Department issued Revenue Department Order No. P. 162/2023 to exempt income generated from overseas sources before 2024. It will be exempt from paying taxes if it is brought back into Thailand from 2024 onwards. As a result of Order P. 162/2023, investors who have transferred money to invest abroad will not be liable for personal income tax in Thailand if assessable income arising from foreign sources that occurred before 2024 is brought back into the country from 2024 onwards, regardless of the year it was brought in. This is in order for the said income to be realized this year before January 1, 2024. Therefore, if you bring income from sales into Thailand in different tax years, that is, imported into Thailand from 2024 onwards, you will not have to pay personal income tax according to the Revenue Department's order No. P. 161/2566. To clarify, the policy outlined in Revenue Department Order No. P.O. 162/2566 indeed specifies that offshore-sourced income received before January 1, 2024, can be brought into Thailand on or after January 1, 2024, without being subject to Thai personal income tax. There is no explicit deadline mentioned for when this remittance must occur, meaning that there is no requirement for the income to be transferred to Thailand before the end of 2024. This allows for more flexibility in managing your financial arrangements without immediate tax implications under Thai law. Further, as outlined in Revenue Department Order No. P. 162/2023, this exemption applies to any assessable income arising from foreign sources before 2024, which is brought back into Thailand from 2024 onwards, regardless of when it is brought in. The intent is to facilitate the realization of income in a way that complies with Thai tax law while recognizing the timelines that may affect international financial planning. Given that you are planning to transfer funds in December 2024 for your 2025 expenses, and these funds are from pension income accumulated before 2024, your plan aligns with the conditions of the exemption. You can advance fund your Thai bank account in December 2024 with these pre-2024 earnings, and these funds should not be subject to the new taxation rules regarding foreign-sourced income remitted to Thailand. However, it’s important to document the source of these funds clearly, showing that they were indeed earned before 2024. This documentation will be crucial in case of any inquiries from the tax authorities. Additionally, while the current exemption allows for such a strategy, I recommend keeping abreast of any further announcements or changes to tax regulations that may occur, as tax laws can be subject to amendments. If you require further assistance with your tax planning or need help preparing the necessary documentation, please feel free to contact me. Ensuring that you have a clear and compliant tax strategy is essential, and I am here to help you navigate these processes. Thank you again for reaching out, bkkmfj. I look forward to assisting you further. Best regards, Victor

The new Thailand Remittance Tax scheme - already in effect since 01-Jan-2024 and the now proposed World Income Tax scheme proposed for tax year 2025, has made it VERY difficult to implement a strategic tax plan without clarifications that should be forthcoming from the Thai government. My personal action plan for now (in order to allow myself to find peace and harmony) will be to take advantage of the below cited new exemption that was offered by the Thai Revenue Department (shown above in the Victor Wong article shared with us by @reader) - where I will front-load (pre-anticipate) my 2025 Thai bank account remittance replenishment in December of this year 2024, using pension income earned/accumulated from before January 1, 2024. Exemption for Pre-2024 Income The amendment explicitly states that income earned before January 1, 2024, is exempt from these new provisions if transferred to Thailand by the end of 2024. This provides a grace period for taxpayers to adjust to the new rules. That will buy me some more time to understand what would be a good tax strategic plan - while the Thai government does what it does best = create chaos - and then bring clarity later on - or in the best case scenario, drop the entire thing. I will keep my fingers crossed for a good outcome - but I also don't want to be an ostrich with my head in the sand forever....

Do you know if their program will be: Farang sit farang drink?

That explains what I saw last night. I was showing another forum member last night the new marquee signage for the Double Shot replacement = East Lounge And I saw Mike and his partner removing stuff from Dorothy's Showbar. It was around 9:15pm last night and Dorothy's was all dark. I wonder what will replace Dorothy's - as it is a big space and has the upstairs hotel rooms Hmmm

Furthermore, when you look at the PIT (Personal Income Tax) rates of Thailand versus your home/citizenship tax country - you will see that you may be quickly pushed into a higher tax bracket in Thailand than in your home/citizenship tax country - consequently, the delta of your home/citizenship PIT rate country versus Thailand's PIT rate would need to be paid to Thailand. The below PIT rate chart was taken from Price Waterhouse at: https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/thailand/individual/taxes-on-personal-income I superimposed in the color orange the USD equivalents of the different tax brackets displayed in THB - as of today, 05 July 2024. any thoughts ?

He fails to mention that you first need to request a Thai Tax ID number from the Thai Revenue Department - which must be done in person by going there and requesting one. = Yuck This is going to really suck - another tax filing and to maintain tax records for both your citizenship country and for your tax residence country. Also, the Thai tax deadline is prior to the USA one, so I would need to accelerate my tax filing in the USA in order to be able to do the additional Thai tax filing in time - after reviewing for all of the DTA (Double Tax Agreement) line items. Is this suggesting that we front-load (top up) our Thai bank accounts prior to 31 December 2024 to avoid taxes in future tax years, because we would not have any need to top-up and fund our Thai bank accounts in future years - thus avoiding the Remittance Tax regime for each tax year that we would not have any remittances into Thailand? When all of this started - back in September 2023 - I decided to pre-fund and top up my Thai bank account in year 2023 to avoid that I would have any remittances coming into Thailand in tax year 2024. So far, so good. But, with the 800.000 Thai baht minimum balance requirement (to get your yearly retirement visa renewed), I will need to top up my Thai bank account in 2025 - but based on the above clause - it would seem more financially prudent to top up my 2025 requirements before 31 Dec 2024. I am also seriously thinking of implementing a 4-4-4 tax minimalization plan where I would live in 3 different countries to avoid the 180 day threshold stated above to be considered a tax resident within a year in Thailand. The idea is to live in 3 different countries in future tax years as follows: 4 months in Thailand, 4 months in Vietnam, 4 months in (to be determined - could be Malaysia or the Philippines). Is anyone else who is an expat in Thailand taking any pro-active tax planning actions regarding all of this? any suggestions ? Within the next 2 weeks I should have a meeting with OffShore in Asia https://offshoreinasia.com/ as he recently posted a tax minimalization strategy video that I really clicked with and is where I got the above mentioned 4-4-4 idea.

When I lived in Italy for 12 years and then for 6 years in Hungary - I had quite an abundance of fellow edgers to play with, and in Budapest I was able to organize many edging contests that were super hot where the idea of the game was to see who could cum first when being edged super slowly - totally frustrating but erotic and exciting at the same time. One of my hunks in Budapest was a semi sadistic edger - he just LOVED keeping guys on the edge of an orgasm forcing them to beg him for mercy for their release - too hot for words....

Very good Reader - but I could not resist this curious question - Was the pause during the early phase of the happy ending ? then after the broad smile it was concluded?....

Dam, I am so disappointed that we missed the Koh Samui Pride Nation gay pride festivities. As reported above, we were only able to catch a few hours of the pre-parade festivities. My most FAVORITE Thai singers, BADMIXY performed on stage at the post parade concert. Here are some Samui parade clips: Party clips: https://www.facebook.com/reel/453558187496164 BADMIXY singing on stage - their best song in my opinion - is "Sugar Daddy":

Hi Emiel, Good to see that you returned to our forum. It is addictive. If it was not for my "Boot Camp" training incentive from Vinapu, I would have never met Khim - as Khim is an only SalaDeng / Silom person and I tend to be a, "I need to be near the sea and never lose eye contact with the sea" person - and we would have never met otherwise. So, it was worth it to go into grimy and wet Bangkok with Vinapu to find these hidden muscle gems --> which is not the norm here in Pattaya - as this tends to be more a "twink heaven" kind of place. Consequently, the beauty of seeing the sea is more important for me than the beauty of sexy hot muscles. The longer I am in Pattaya - I find myself starting to enjoy the twinks more and more - which was a no-no for me in the past..... Currently, I am grooming a new 23 year old Twink that I met into being a GREAT edger. The Edging sexual practice is VERY rare in Thailand - unlike back in Europe and the USA, so, when he edged me on his own volition - I was like - WOW - I need to keep this guy. He did not realize his own Edging talents, or how he acquired them, but I am helping him to capitalize on them as he truly gives some AMAZING Edging orgasms with his lovely twink hands..... Regarding those beautiful muscle guys, I just wait until those BKK guys come on over to Pattaya for a visit - as they often do - as they also need to escape from the grim of BKK.

@Olddaddy - Get ready Olddaddy - another space in the Jomtien Supertown Complex has become available for your new bar / T-Dance place ?? Sad to see the shutting down of the Double Shot bar - as that was a fun place after 10pm when the cute and sexy Cambodian guys took off their shirts - as it is very rare to see some skin in Supertown - but back in the day when Double Shot was in Sunee Plaza - the ability to see skin was everywhere..... Anyone know anything about this new East Lounge bar mentioned above? Will it follow the set-in-stone Supertown tradition of = "falang sit falang drink..." The logo has a similar look as the East Suites hotel. Same owners ??

Hi Marc, Just to let you know that my friend, JD100 has sent you a DM (Direct Message) regarding the above invitation as well as your Vietnam invitation. It seems to appear as "Unread" on your side. Can you please check? Thanks, bkkmfj

Hmm curious Vinapu :>)) I was with my Thai volleyball friend and he is also my motorbike teacher. We travel very well together. You may have read in my trip report that we had 2 (two) accomodations. We don't have sex, even though he is very sexy - he says that I am not his type = old, fat, and ugly. If you go to the Sansuk Sauna in Pattaya you can see him at his hotel job. But, I am now into my 6th week at the gym with my aggressive female trainer - so eventually we can change that list from: old, fat, ugly to just: old, ugly but - with muscles and toned body Then we will see if my luck will change. The checking of Hornet, Grindr, and Heesay was for this trip report, as this was a non sex trip, I was sure someone from this forum might want to know if any PLUs (People Like Us) were available for consumption on these very remote exotic beautiful islands - since 95% of our forum readers don't seem to venture outside of our favorite gay sex ghettos of: Bangkok Pattaya Phuket Chiang Mai

Ben Hart, from Integrity Legal - just put out this short 4 minute video about a new Immigration Form being requested when renewing your long stay visa (Retirement and/or Marriage) regarding your bank account details. Ben is worried that this new form is the first step towards eventually wanting to see our Thai tax return and/or tax payment in order for our long term stay visa to be renewed? One of the Youtube comments is VERY interesting for us retirees living here in Thailand: Ben, my question is. I have 800,000. Baht in a Thai Bank account to keep a Retirement Visa. If they decide to Tax it. It now drops below the 800,000. Baht. Do I no longer qualify for the Retirement Visa? Your thoughts please. I see fun times ahead :>)) partial screenshot of NEW immigration form regarding our bank details:

partial screenshot of NEW immigration form regarding our bank details: