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For my 63rd birthday, I decided to join @vinapu in Bangkok. We had already met up in Pattaya the previous week with another forum member. For my birthday, we celebrated in Moonlight, piggy-backing off of the party that was already underway for Jessica. Earlier in the day on the 29th, I treated myself to a Vinapu recommendation, Alex, a wonderful muscle Burmese guy in my Raya room with the "in the middle of the suite" transparent glass shower. ohh lala... On the following day, the 30th of August, I decided to pamper myself at the new GLAM's Massage & Spa, that was getting a lot of gossip, reviews, etcetra in the Twitter (X) Massage Insider forum. --> reference to what is the Massage Insider forum from 26 January 2024 https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/40375-is-the-gay-scene-dying-off/page/5/#comment-372916 It is located at: 380/2 Ratchadaphisek Rd, Samsen Nok, Huai Khwang, Bangkok 10310 and can be easily reached via the MRT Blue line at the Sutthisan station and then just a 5 minute walk to the shop. From our BKK gay ghetto, it is only 8 stops away from the Lumphini blue line MRT station to Sutthisan. - around 40 baht. Here is the front of the GLAM shop. I took my sneakers off and left them outside of the entrance door. Here is the reception - you will see that it is huge and beautiful. You will be greeted by the manager and told what is on offer for that day and shown a menu of various programs. From here, I was taken up 1 flight via a large beautiful staircase where you are made to feel like you are in a museum or art exhibition. I was not allowed to take a photo on this first floor because the manager was sensitive about what could be misinterpreted (as I told him that I was going to write an article for a gay farang newsletter) --> as the shop was only open 2 weeks - and they wanted a chance to survive (any wrongly prying eyes) this initial opening this soft opening period. If you were lucky to visit the former Hero (Sukhumvit soi 11) or the current Prince - there is the famous glass wall with the hot guys pumping iron and showing off so that you can select your guy(s) for your visit. https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/10299-hero-massage/#comment-89772 internet photo of Prince glass wall for illustration purposes Well, GLAM has a similar concept, but instead of workout equipment behind the glass wall there are several leather sofas where the guys sit and with the manager you select your guy from outside of the glass. Unfortunately, on the day that I showed up - it was 1pm and all of the guys were in a training class for their new Hot Stone massage offering. So, the manager was able to only get 3 guys to exit the training class so that I could chose 2 from them - as I was interested in = surprise --> hahahaha --> a 4 hands massage. The manager told me that they have 30 guys working for them. So, my 2 masseurs walked me up another 3 flights to the top floor 4, to the VIP room. The massage VIP room was huge with a big comfortable bed and an amazing shower where we truly had a lot of "warm up" fun. All was good - the 4 hands massage, the "afters", and the "cool down shower" get ready to go back outside onto the streets of Bangkok. My program was expensive - as I selected the VIP room and 2 guys for 90 minutes. I paid 1.750 to the massage shop and each guy's minimum tip was 1.800 each - so the total for my birthday extravaganza was: 5.350 baht. For me it was well worth it. They have much cheaper prices for standard rooms and with just 1 masseur for 60 minutes instead of 90 minutes. Would I go again? YES, as it was nice to see another Bangkok neighborhood and to experience a decadent type of new massage shop like GLAM. I wish them the best of luck. Enjoy.

and that Thursday show at Moonlight was the highlight of my visit to Bangkok, to hang out with you @vinapu and the other board member for my birthday --> it was Jessica's birthday and they made a BIG show and for me that was my most favorite night in Moonlight ever - as the fun energy created that night was unforgettable.

Wow @Vessey, I like this definition - as it fits me to a capital T. And in my 63 years of life, my cock has become hard from VERY surprising people and situations - that helped me over the years to better understand myself and what does and does not turn me on. What I discovered is that I do not have a "one type" but instead a "myriad of types" in both people and situations - because people in certain situations are a BIG turn on - but that same person outside of that particular situation is not necessarily going to turn me on..... Consequently, it can be quite difficult to recreate a hot scene - as that unique situation has already evaporated into the ether. But at least the memory of it lingers on for those moments when you are alone to "spank the monkey...." https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spank_the_monkey

soon there will be a queue to get in....

This is a big problem for me when I travel - as I tend to stay in AirBnBs and I do not want their beds ruined by the oil seeping into the expensive mattress. So, I do one of 2 things: 1.) tell them to only use cream (instead of oil), 2.) if I am staying for more than 1 week in a place, then I will buy extra towels and 1 underneath mattress cover, that are for massage purposes to avoid that the oil ruins the mattress. In my April trip to Da Nang, Vietnam - I employed the above option 2 and I wrote to the AirBnb owner that he would find extra towels and a fitted mattress cover - which were all stained with oil marks - even after I washed them. However, the owner's mattress was in good shape. The AirBnb greatly appreciated that I went out of my way to protect his asset - the bed mattress. I love to "order in" my massages - as I know who or what was on the towel / mattress before the massage starts and I can control the lighting, ambiance, music, drinks for the massage guys (I prefer 4 hand massages), shower cleanliness, etc.

Wow, @Verchiele that X page for the TK Man massage shop is truly porno and Yummy!!!!

hahahaha - but @Olddaddy never responded to my questions to him - instead I got a reply about beeping horns perhaps I should have instead @vinapu asked @Olddaddy about the cemeteries in Cebu City and Boracay ?? I am super confused on what is the required methodology to be able to ask @Olddaddy a question? any clues or suggestions ?

@macaroni21 when you wrote that I was hoping to see a photo of the "good penis" in the above cited article --> as I have never seen a Kuwaiti penis damn.... can you vouch for Kuwaiti penises ?

@Olddaddy - can you say why Boracay is a "retirable" place ?

Hi @Olddaddy, can you please expand on why Boracay is "retirable"? As part of my 4-4-4 plan I hope to go on an exploratory trip to The Philippines to find places that are "retirable". I will avoid Manila for the same reasons why I could not live in Bangkok. I will start my journey in Cebu City, as it is "near" the sea with my understanding that the Mactan - Newtown area is the most similar to Jomtien - but with the crazy traffic it can take 1 hour to reach the nice Cebu City IT Park and Business Center near the Ayala mall. So, I am thinking that perhaps it would be better to choose a condo in one of the Cebu City high rises with a balcony view of the sea (though it is quite far off into the distance) - as opposed to a mountain view. Does Boracay have anything similar? I see from Twitter that there are plenty of guys available with even the "edging" fetish experience - which is almost impossible to find here in Jomtien.

@reader and that is most likely the future after we die off.....

Thank you @reader for writing what you wrote above. And if you are a USA citizen, then you are also taxed back in the USA and can also be taxed in your host retirement country - depending on the tax regime that said host country has implemented. Yes, there is the DTA to help you out - but that in of itself is another bureaucratic nightmare, and is not always a net sum zero result. Someone loses and that is generally you = the global tax citizen. DTAs can be fair when your home country tax scale and allowed deductions are similar to your host country tax scale and allowed deductions. Guess what - they are not. And if you had the joy for working for the UN - then there is another additional separate tax regime to worry about.

Yes @emiel1981 we should make a BIG sacrifice for the greater good of this forum to go and check out these "Big Tools" place during your visit to Pattaya.

This may be open for interpretation. After investing many hours in this issue and attending many seminars about it, it seems that Thailand is moving: from a Territorial Tax System, to a Residence-Based Taxation System, with talks of possibly adding additional elements of a Global (Worldwide) Tax System. Territorial Tax System countries are very appealing to us (retirees) whose income is earned outside of said territory - as the local government tends to not care about our earnings outside of said territory. Interestingly, I asked the Microsoft Copilot (I am not sure which LLM AI engine it uses) to list which countries adhere to the Territorial Tax System and it still lists Thailand and in my opinion, this is incorrect, because as of 01-Jan-2024 due to the change announced by the Thai Revenue Department on 15 September 2023 (No. Paw. 161/2566) regarding assessable income brought into Thailand for "tax residents". So, as we can see this Territorial Tax System country list is shrinking as the world moves towards these more inclusive tax regimes.

And I have the opposite "baffle" from you - as to why anyone would want to retire and live out the last years of their lives in a crowded, dirty, congested, noisy, smelly, no access to the beach city like Bangkok. I am from New York, and when the company that I worked for in 1987 decided to open a new small 5 person office in Denver, Colorado - I begged and begged all of my supervisors and chiefs to be one of the 5 employees assigned to Denver. I was miserable in NYC with all of the above listed negative descriptors for Bangkok in NYC and Denver gave me access to a smaller mid-size city with amazing access to beautiful nature with stunning views of the Rocky Mountains from downtown Denver. I knew then, all the way back in 1987, that I could never live again in a big mega city like New York, Bangkok, Manila, Jakarta, etcetra. I just had to have a connection to nature and after living in Colorado for 12 years, I realized that I also needed access to the sea - so, hence my attraction to a coastal city like Jomtien - Pattaya for my retirement years. Every morning when I wake up - I see the beautiful Gulf of Thailand from my bed and it is truly amazing the vastness of the sea (gulf). --> however, just don't walk or swim in the coffee brown beach water - but just look beyond that for the illusion of peace and tranquility....

@unicorn I am about to start this journey - where to retire (even though I already retired to Thailand in September 2022). One of my primary decisions for choice of retirement country that I made in 2020 was based on favorable tax treatment - which Thailand scored as being very tax friendly. Then the Thai Revenue Department amended one of the existing regulations on the treatment of "assessable income", which came into force effective 01-Jan-2024. Consequently, I will start 2 exploratory trips to The Philippines and also to Vietnam to see if the grass is any greener there for a retiree - especially from a tax treatment point of view. Regarding The Philippines, I have zero experience and @unicorn if you could suggest to me any Philippine cities that are attractive and on the sea like Jomtien is - I would appreciate it. I will start my exploration in Cebu City (skipping the Manila metro area - for the same reasons that I could not live in Bangkok). Regarding Vietnam, I have been a couple of times and my heart is set on Da Nang - as I see it being very similar to Jomtien but in a environmentally cleaner way with excellent access to beautiful nature. However, the gay infrastructure in Da Nang is miniscule when compared to Jomtien - Pattaya - but it does have around 3 gay bars and perhaps a half a dozen gay massage shops. @unicorn when you say why someone would choose Thailand as a gay retirement destination - my main reasons were: the appeal of the gay infrastructure (bars and clubs) that exists here in Jomtien and Pattaya, access to the beaches. Now after living here for 2 years that appeal has diminished because of pollution and dirty sea water - although one can take the 1 hour journey (elapsed time from when you leave your condo until you put down your beach towel) over to Koh Larn where the beaches on the west side of the island are still beautiful, access to great local health care. Unfortunately, the excitement of the gay entertainment wears off and becomes banal. The local gay life is GREAT when you are here on vacation, but when you live here full time it gets kind of boring and mundane - especially during the low seasons when the local guys get desperate financially and react accordingly - which creates a negative environment - until the next high season arrives. So, I would still argue that retiring in Thailand still has its appeal - but alternate places should be considered.

@unicorn this is an excellent question. I am coming up on my 2 year anniversary as a retired expat living in Thailand (Jomtien). My feeling from living here 2 years is that I don't believe that this hostility comes from xenophobia, but more from the fact that Thailand was never colonized and went out of its way to avoid being colonized during its long history. Consequently, I believe that there is a fear to give us foreigners any rights in Thailand to avoid the fear of feeling to be colonized by us foreigners. You see this in the draconian way that foreigners are not allowed to own land in Thailand - Thailand will resist at all cost the idea that foreigners could take over Thailand. However, Thailand likes to make us feel good in Thailand and loves to take our money via tourism and to accept us as retired expats - as this is one of the many ways that Thailand acquires foreign currency and helps the GDP. In my opinion, it is like a "safe" way for Thailand to get what Thailand wants from us without having to give up anything physical in return. Thoughts ? 🤔

or a matter for monkhood to resolve ? 🤔 BANGKOK: An actor in a Thai series announced on Monday (Aug 19) that he will never drive a jet ski again following a fatal accident on the Chao Phraya River in Samut Prakan province last weekend. Shindanai “QP” Saelim also vowed to enter monkhood to make a merit for two victims who died after his jet ski carrying his friend and her mother crashed into a long-tail boat with two persons on board. https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2024/08/20/driver-of-jet-ski-that-fatally-injured-on-two-chao-phraya-river-vows-to-enter-monkhood

@reader hmm - I wanted to visually see who is this famous QP actor. I think that I found him.... https://twitter.com/newtv_18/status/1825405010269950365 it seems that this was not his first accident without a license.....

I think so - the last time that I returned from Koh Larn in the early evening it looked to be still operational. Their Instagram page seems to be up-to-date https://www.instagram.com/club_pattaya_legacy/

Can these muscular Russian guys be offed? When you say similar to the one in Pattaya - which one are you referring to ?

I am with you on this feeling @spoon - especially as it relates to that sexy beach attendant from Myanmar on the Dongtan beach here in Jomtien. As we both know, he has BIG sex appeal and is definitely not 1.7m

yes - I'll take sexy James (third from the left) please.... 🤪

@forrestreid great update and thanks for sharing this story with us. It reminds me of the time, back in the early 2,000s, when I went for the first time to Prague, where I visited the then famous Drake Bar - similar to this Boysclub21 in Amsterdam. You walked in and you sat down at the bar and the bartender took your drink order and brought you a big fat photo album and he told you all about their guys who were on offer - each photo page was dedicated to a different guy. On one of the pages I saw a photo of one of my then favorite Czech porno stars (I cannot remember his name) and I told the bartender that I wanted to be with him. So, I had to pay to the bartender a "room rental fee", that allowed me access to the room for 1 hour. Then the bartender took me to the room and I was told to wait for a knock on the door. Moments later, my then favorite Czech porno star arrived and I let him in. He was stunning and me being young, horny, and fresh from the USA in the EU, I already orgasmed within 10 minutes with the guy. The porno star said to me - oops - you paid for 1 hour what do you want to do with the remaining 50 minutes? I replied, would you mind if I can interview you? I have always wanted to know what is the life of a porno star is like. He agreed, and it was very revealing and it was there that I learned a new word = "fluffer". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fluffer The porno star told me that the Czech porno stars were envious of the American porno stars when they came over to the EU to make a film shoot - as the American porno stars had their own individual "fluffers" available to them before each of the porn scenes to get their cocks hard and ready for the next scene. He told me that the Czech porn stars had no fluffers and had to do it manually, by masturbating themselves prior to each porn scene to be hard and ready for action. So, I loved my time at Drakes and I will always remember this story.

That's why we have this forum 😁