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Wow @reader, that ex-SOL space is HUGE when compared to the Good Boy / Screw Boy space. This seems like a good thing. Would you agree?

I agree @reader - I already chatted with Mr. Thomas Carden at the PCEC meeting about my 4-4-4 plan, which he fully endorsed. However, that tax minimalization strategy only worked with the Thailand Revenue Department change that was introduced effective 01-Jan-2024 regarding the current "Remittance Based Territorial Tax Regime". Unfortunately, it won't work once Thailand introduces the above mentioned transition: from a "Remittance Based Territorial Tax Regime" - which would require me to stay out of Thailand for 181 days in year 2025, top up my Thai bank account in 2025, and then stay for the full year in Thailand in year 2026. to a "Worldwide Global Tax Regime" - the implementation of this would negate the possibility to stay in Thailand for more than 180 days in 2026 (or any year for that matter) - because of the Global Income element - which looks at income outside of Thailand and does not care when it would be remitted into Thailand, like the above tax minimalization option allows for. The article implies that the Hi-So of Thailand may try to block the implementation of the "Worldwide Global Tax Regime", but I read on another forum that the OECD is strongly pushing Thailand to adopt this tax regime - as it was delayed when Thailand was under the military ruled junta - which ignored outside influences on Thailand - so the OECD (and some say even the WEF) are putting extreme pressure on Thailand to hurry up and catch up and adopt this tax regime.

Wow @Shonen, I am impressed that you managed to get into the Thai inner circle, if you have frequented the famous Jomtien soi 12 - where our guys after the the bars close - and even after gay volleyball on Dongtan beach concludes, they head over for an all-nighter on the Jomtien soi 12 beach - where many find themselves drinking until the sunrise and/or passed out on the beach disoriented when the morning tourists start arriving on the beach to start their beach day activities.... From what little that I do know about Vinapu's @vinapu Dreamboy guy, I do not believe that he is the Jomtien soi 12 type.

@18past19, When you return to Pattaya - let me take you to one of the many restaurants that are on the Prathamnak cliffs - that overlook the Pattaya Cosy Beach and Gulf of Thailand with an amazing sunset view of nearby Koh Larn island. When you take the bathbus (songthaew) from Pattaya City to Jomtien - the bahtbus goes over a hill that separates Pattaya City from Jomtien and the neighborhoods on that hill are Prathamnak and Cosy Beach - where Cosy Beach has the seaside cliff with amazing views.

I believe that guy has a partner - as I encountered him on one of the apps here as I was hunting around for a 4 hands massage and I believe that he proposed to me to his partner - unfortunately, I did not pursue it as I was not interested in the person I believed to be his partner. But I cannot confirm this but I believe this is why he could not stay with you past 2am....

Interesting - some of these Jomtien Dongtan beach massage guys mentioned above are also available for a massage off of the beach sand back in your room for a small additional fee. It is all done in a discreet and subtle way - as we need to worry about protecting the image of Pattaya = no sins and God forbid that you utter the words, "sin city". And a couple of these beach massage guys also have profiles in Grindr and Hornet - but I don't think that they display their membership number for obvious reasons.

Sexy Jett Gunther (Bangkok realtor and former journalist with The Thaiger), recently interviewed Thomas Carden on his Youtube channel, from AIT (American International Tax Advisers) - This is the same tax expert that I saw his presentation that was made back in June at the PCEC (Pattaya City Expat Club).

and this is the part that I do not agree with. If you wait too long then you won't have time to properly implement a proper tax minimalization plan. Phase 1 of the new tax regime (possibility that funds that you transfer into Thailand from abroad are deemed as "assessable income" IF you are a tax resident) is already effective since 01-Jan-2024. This additional proposal is to tax your global foreign-based income -> even if not brought into Thailand is truly unprecendented. If you already live here and are planning to take advantage of the idea to avoid being a tax resident (you do not reside in Thailand for more than 180 days in a calendar year), then you need to get busy to determine where you will live for 181 days outside of Thailand. My 4-4-4 plan is to live only 4 months in Thailand during 2025, 4 months in Vietnam, and 4 months in The Philippines. Then I will intentionally top up my Thai bank account in 2025 for expenses occurred in both years 2025 and 2026. This strategy will allow me to live for the full 12 months in Thailand in year 2026 - where I will be deemed as a tax resident - but I will not have any assessable income in 2026 - as it was brought into Thailand in year 2025 when I was not a tax resident. This strategy, can go out the window, depending on what Thailand will do regarding our global income that is earned outside of Thailand. For now, I am hoping to buy time and to learn about retirement life in Vietnam and The Philippines to keep my options open.

@Marc308 When I moved to Thailand back in September 2022, I booked a 1 month studio condo in the VT5 via AirBnB. I got to know the owner of the said condo outside of the AirBnB system, and I can share with you his details as he is a wealth of information about rentals in the area. Anthony (Tony) WhatsApp: +66896079896 Tony can speak French, Italian, and English I would suggest that you send your query to him via a WhatsApp text message

Wow @reader OLE is a dream - I think that I need to join your subscription plan - like I did with Vinapu... A 4 hands massage with JJ and OLE would be amazing and in my case probably lead to premature ejaculation - oops - slow down guys...

YES, let us reap the benefits from Vinapu's experiences..... In my opinion, Vinapu is the "gift that keeps on giving...." Thank you @vinapu, I have had some great meetings with great referrals from you and other forum members.... Some bad apples along the way - but hey, that is part of the journey/adventure - as long as the few bad apples do not spoil the entire basket of good apples...

an update on the original topic https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/2860812/law-to-tax-income-from-overseas-in-the-works

yes, slowly slowly Boyztown and even the Jomtien Supertown Complex are losing their peak performance. The anchor of Boyztown, BoyzBoyzBoyz is no longer fun; A-Bomb without gogo dancers - now only a show; Sunee Plaza now practically a ghost town, and Supertown now having another difficult slow season and hanging on for the hoped for uptick, when many members in this forum will return for high-season from the end of October through March. Nothing wrong with you Vinapu. I saw it with my own eyes - the guys are enchanted and very happy to see you again... What you are experiencing is "false marketing" - the guys are telling you what you want to hear to get the sale but then not delivering on what was promised. Unfortunately, this phenomena has gained momentum in the last year and I cannot understand why. Perhaps the partners of the guys that we like to off are no longer allowing their guys to stay out all night long ? Or, perhaps they have lost their "interest" in keeping us happy ? Remember how perplexed I was with that sexy Hotmale guy from Myanmar that I brought back to my Raya room for him to only fall asleep - no matter what I tried to do to arouse him. And when I tried again in the morning after he slept very well (I did not as I don't sleep well with unknowns in my bed), I recommenced to arouse him for him to get hard and then to fall asleep again - talk about being frustrated. So, when I pulled him up into the upright position to tell him that I needed to pack and go, he was startled. I told him that his overnight LT rate was being reduced to a ST due to a lack of performance - he acknowledged and apologized.

Good observation @spoon --> because I see in the Twitter (X) - LINE chat group for Massage_Insider that those forum guys have bundled together JeySpa and Glam with the offering of the "H" service designation. Maybe same owners ?

neither did I until I subscribed to the Twitter (X) and LINE Massage Insider forums - several forums run by Thai moderators - all in Thai - where the theme is primarily 100% about massage shops and massage guys throughout Thailand - with the biggest emphasis on Bangkok - of course. By making friends with the local gay Thai guys here from the Dongtan (Jomtien) gay volleyball - where some of them work "freelance" via the Hornet app - an entire new world was opened up to me - as they use a different terminology set to describe: Top -> for them can be Attack, Aggressor Bottom -> for them can be Receiver / Receiving Sex that excludes anal penetration -> Outside -> this one confused me for the longest time as I thought that they were always referring to sex outside - like on the shoreline of the beach after dark. -> they laughed at my naivety - they would tell me - no silly - Outside is sex outside of the anal sphincter So, learning about the local culture and how they express these activities has been an eye opener for me. So, if you do subscribe to any of these Thai forums and use the AI auto translation feature - you will be exposed to these strange terminologies.... enjoy the journey....

hmmm, you make an excellent point @10tazione Pattaya without the gazillion Laos and Cambodian masseurs would create a huge void in the local masseur world here And Bangkok without the many Burmese masseurs could be problematic.

I see in today's LINE update that GLAM posted their current price list - which includes the new Hot Stone treatments. I reported the wrong price in my above report as 1,750 baht for the 90 minute fee for the 4 hands massage. Instead it was 1,790 baht - old age on my part. And then the manager told me verbally, what was not shown on the below price list - the minimum tip to be paid to each guy, 1,800 baht - which included all of the fun up to level H* as stated above. * level H includes anal sex with penetration I would imagine that the price would change (be less) if level S (hand job only) or level SS (everything but anal sex with penetration - what the Thai guys that I frequent commonly refer to as "outside only activities" = no penetration {or attack as they refer to}). Learning the local language helps you to understand how the local culture operates.

Spot on @Marc308 Also, many of the guys are working multiple shops as freelance - so in this way they do not need to be "ball and chained" to one single massage shop. Ironically, here in Pattaya - the guys just sit in front of one single shop melting in the hot sun for like 8 to 10 hours per day - I just don't get it. If I were to be a massage guy - I think that the BKK model is much more healthy for the guys - inside a nice air conditioned shop instead of sitting outside in the boiling sun...

yes, their web site is still work in progress. If you join their LINE feed - you will get several updates per day of all of the sexy guys @glamspabkk When the manager would not let me photograph the 1st floor sexy glass room where the guys stand posing behind the glass wall - like in an aquarium - I understood that he wants to keep a low profile from prying eyes - perhaps until the proper envelopes are given to the appropriate BIBs ??

As shared with us by @reader, I witnessed the start of the recent storm damage to our Dongtan gay beach area here in Jomtien (Pattaya). They had a bulldozer out trying to level out the deep ruts in the beach sand from the recent storms. Unfortunately, it has reached all the way up onto the lovely sidewalk - thus weakening the sidewalk above. We still have all of this month and part way into the next month for the monsoon season to continue..... Yikes....

I forgot to include the business card that the manager gave me for GLAM

@CallMeLee - wow compliments - excellent story writing. JJ is so my type. Next trip to BKK I need to look him up and maybe bring him over to Pattaya for a couple of days 😜

You can also add the Senso shop to this list. When you walk in, the manager calls out to the guys in the back to do a line up where you tell the manager which guy(s) you want. When I was there last week, I told the manager that I wanted the 4 hands 90 minute offer and that I will pick the first guy and then that guy should nominate which other guy from the line up that he feels comfortable working with. For the first pick - all eyes and smiles are on you --> for the 2nd pick, I noticed that not all of the eyes were on the 1st guy I chose - so, I sensed that there is definitely some "good" and "less good" chemistry between the guys. This is why for 4 hands massages, I let the first guy choose the 2nd guy to avoid anything strange during our session.

Thanks for your compliments. Being a member of the Twitter (X) and related LINE Massage Insider forums, I was already privy to information that the GLAM massage guys would offer fun for the stated minimum tip. Below, you can see a reference where the forum administrator states that up to H is available at GLAM. These Thai massage forums use a ranking system of: S - soft = handjob SS - soft = outside activities that do not involve anal sex with penetration H - hard = implies that there can be anal sex with penetration

The alternative was to remain in Pattaya (Jomtien) where I would have been expected to organize a birthday party at one of the local Jomtien Supertown Complex bars and foot the bill. I would have surely had a hangover the next day and no orgasms on my birthday or the day after. With the money that I saved by not remaining in Pattaya I was able to: see and hang out with Vinapu and another forum member, treat myself to a wonderful birthday by pampering and spoiling myself.