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Thanks for your reply regarding this need to maintain this 'artificial' image of Pattaya/Jomtien. But this does not explain why Chiang Mai, Phuket, and small Hat Yai are all allowed to have similar marketing strategies and methodologies for massage services as found in Bangkok.

I comment about the massage scene in Pattaya (Jomtien). As per the below Supertown Jomtien Complex webpage there are 10 massage shops noted by said web site administrator. Of which 9 are gay - where the Thai Blind Massage I do not know if they are gay even though they reside within the walls of the complex. I lament about the Jomtien massage scene because it is so disorganized when compared to the super sophisticated way that the Bangkok massage places market their masseurs. There is practically ZERO marketing for the Jomtien masseurs and near ZERO use of marketing technologies (i.e., Line, Twitter, webpages, etc.) In Bangkok, there are Line sites for most of the massage shops with pictures of the masseurs with information about their preferences. Then there is sometimes a booking system via Line or Twitter to obtain time with your favorite masseur. Bangkok has a couple of EXCELLENT chat and review systems that are enabled in Line. I joined 3 of them via Twitter, at: B_u_X: Massage Addicted - Twitter ID = @Massageaddictt1 - if you agree with his terms of engagement you can become a member for a small fee of 300 baht per year. Once you pay to his PromptPay, he will allow you to enter into his private Line Group where you will have access to the Chat, monthly .pdf masseur reviews, OpenChat, and promotional discounts and coupons. Note that everything is in Thai - but I just use Google Translate and I do quite well communicating. I find the monthly .pdf reviews VERY interesting (to translate these .pdf documents you need to use the Google Translate image translate function for each single page - cumbersome but FULL of very useful information - like how did the sex and/or happy ending go and the related rating of the masseur given by the designated rater). His Line group (B_u_X Massage Addicted By Bung) has 2,459 members and the chat is VERY active and busy. see sample screen shot below. Massage Insider - Twitter ID = @massageinside3 - if you agree with his terms of engagement you can become a member for a small fee of 300 baht per year. Once you pay to his Thai bank account, he will allow you to enter into his private Line Group where you will have access to the Chat, monthly (and sometimes weekly) masseur reviews (note that the reviews are written in Line in the Notes section in Thai - but you just click on the translate button in Line and you instantly see everything in English), OpenChat, and promotional discounts and coupons. Note that everything is in Thai - but I just use Google Translate and I do quite well communicating. His Line group (M Community) has 2,690 members and the chat is VERY active and busy. see sample screen shot below. Planet Worldz Massage - Twitter ID = @PlanetWorldX - his group is more expensive @500 baht for 1 year. I have not yet joined - but I am very tempted as I like what his offering is: Massage reviews in Line with the possibility of xxx photos from the actual massage that was reviewed, Weekly updates in Line and also on Twitter, Twitter access to thrilling clips with an emphasis on the xxx parts, Line group chat access. I note that the emphasis on the above 3 groups are primarily focused on Bangkok, but with some emphasis on Chiang Mai, Phuket, Hat Yai, and even Japan (occasionally). There was ZERO focus on Pattaya. So, my question to all of you is - why is Pattaya SO difficult and disorganized for massages ? I asked some of my Thai Jomtien based massage friends and they say that the local police in Jomtien/Pattaya have a FIRM control over them and that is why you don't see any of them having personal line profiles, booking systems, massage shop web pages, etc. Is this true? If so, why would the local police want to stranglehold the local massage industry in Pattaya/Jomtien when it has the potential to be vibrant like in Chiang Mai, Phuket, or even small Hat Yai - which has 3 massage shops down in the conservative southern part of Thailand?? Perplexed in Jomtien......

https://www.gay.it/locali-gay-a-napoli If you open the above referenced web page in Chrome - then you can right click on it to have it translated into English by Google. It is from the official site gay.it - which when I lived in Italy had relatively good up to date information. However, this web page does not discuss the cruising areas already mentioned in this thread. When I lived in Rome and I wanted to have fun in Naples I used either: PlanetRomeo https://www.romeo.com/ Hunqz https://www.hunqz.com/ enjoy

Olddaddy - some time ago you wrote something in one of your posts that really bothered me - something like - what do all of the farang retirees do in Jomtien to pass the day - sit on their balconies looking out onto the sea..... Well, I moved to Jomtien from the EU in September 2022 as a new retiree - and after 6 months I became bored looking out onto the sea from my balcony. That was the HARDEST part of being a new retiree - how to repurpose ourselves? What is our new purpose in life. Out of the blue - my ex-boss from the EU called me on a day that I was really bored - he asked me what I was doing. I replied, I am busy counting endless seashells on the seashore..... He laughed and said to me - "Do you want a NEW chance to use your brain and be intellectual again?" I jumped at the opportunity and I replied with a resounding = YES. So, within a month I was back in the EU in early 2023 on a 4.5 month short retiree consulting contract using my brain and it felt so good to have purpose again..... After night after night sitting in the Supertown Jomtien Complex sitting and drinking I was rapidly becoming more and more depressed and becoming negative - and that is not me - I am usually a happy lucky guy with a lot of energy. The Supertown Jomtien Complex is made in a way that does not allow us to expend energy - the mantra is: "falang sit - falang drink" ==> and it you go against this program they get upset as I tried on many occasions to stand and even dance....The preferred Supertown program is for us to be sedentary and to spend our money....and I find this program SO boring and not stimulating.... So Olddaddy - I did not like what you wrote some time ago about retiring in Jomtien as I was SO confident that I would find a way after my new retirement to BOTH use my little brain down on the 3rd leg (which I did and often with great satisfaction) --> but the joy from using your 3rd leg brain does NOTHING for stimulating the real brain. Anyone who is already retired in Jomtien - what is your secret to find ways to stimulate your brain to give it intellectual input and challenges??

BEST massage advice I have heard in a LONG time. I find the process of scoping out which masseur I want from the street - SO awkward and intimidating - especially when the more aggressive ones are barking for your attention and your eyes are set on the shy one....So, I will just now ask for a sample from the shy one and see how it goes...or perhaps ask for samples from all of them - hahahaha - give them something to do instead of blindly looking into their phone apps in an endless zombie state of mind...

Dear newtobangkok123, I just returned from a 17 day trip to the deep south of Thailand (Songkhla and Phatthalung provinces) and the terminology that many of the guys that I met in Twitter and Hornet used the following terminology to identify the expected services: Outside = soft - handjob and happy ending. Outside can also include oral sex. --> what I learned is that "Outside" is anything that is not about anal sex penetration Pricing for Outside activities was between 500 baht to 1.000 baht - with the majority at the 1.000 baht range. Inside = anal sex penetration - the masseur will identify if he is Active (Top - Man), Versatile, or Passive (Bottom). Pricing for Inside activities I was quoted in the 1.500 to 2.000 price range. The above pricing schedule was quoted to me by guys from Songkhla, Hat Yai, and Yala for both Thai Buddhist guys and as well as Thai Muslim guys. I did not meet or visit any of the massage shops - there are 3 in Hat Yai. All of my connections were made using Twitter and Hornet.

I wanted to give an update on this lamination service. I just completed the renewal of my 1 year retirement visa and I again returned to this lamination print shop in Pattaya - where they created for me an ID Card - where on the front is the ID portion of my passport and on the back is the updated retirement visa stamp. Very cheap - I believe that I paid 150 baht for 2 laminated ID cards. I upload their business card (below) - the shop can be easily found on South Pattaya road shortly after the Friendship Supermarket walking in the direction of Sukhumvit Road - on the same side of the road. Have I ever had to use this ID card for a police check in Thailand = NO. But I feel comfortable with it in my pocket (they size it down so it can fit in your wallet - credit card size) instead of having to carry my passport with me. Ironically, I had to use it once in the metro system in Budapest for the renewal of my monthly transit card - as they recognized it as an actual ID card instead of my Hungarian retirement ID card. How strange. So, it can have a use outside of Thailand.

If we off one of the Coyote Dancers from your place while at your event - do we pay you the off-fee ? 😁

and he is SO sexy and kind......I remember that wonderful dinner :>)

I live part-time in Thailand as I am semi retired as my former employer keeps calling back to Europe for some short work assignments (3 to 4 months at a time). I will be going to visit the Songkhla area at the end of this year - with an eye open to see if I would want to relocate from Pattaya and live there next September 2024. So, it would be nice to know that someone from this forum would also be down there - even though I would arrive 2 months prior to you to "set up camp..."

The Italian version, La Cage aux Folles: Il Vizietto (1978), was also very good. Unfortunately, I could not find it with subtitles.

Wow Vinapu, the "special" suitcase is featured in 2 of the 6 photos (1/3) that you posted above.

Finally - I've been waiting so long for you to post your Day 12 report - as I wanted to know if you managed to surprise and actually meet your sexy HC birthday boy. Bravo!! You invested a lot in him and I am happy that you had another happy ending with him. One thing for SURE Vinapu - not all ATMs are equal. Yours is the most prettiest and generous :>))

It was great to see you again @vinapu - and to catch up on so much news in our respective lives. And thanks to you I got to know another forum member, @Tartegogo. It was great to share the X-Boys go-go boy experience together, just for the sake to know that in Pattaya that there is a nice alternative to the BoyzBoyzBoyz show. X-Boys facebook page Another Vinapu first for me, was to watch my friend Toon (the BoyzBoyzBoyz outside captain) go into complete laughter in Vinapu's presence. I was quite surprised, as sexy Toon is usually composed. I asked him, what is so funny? He replied, your friend is the Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC) guy. This gave Toon so much amusement. Vinapu took it well - as I have read in many prior forum posts that Vinapu has had this KFC experience elsewhere in Thailand.

Hi Reader, What should we do in the case when the guys specifically ask us to give them publicity in these forums? A few minutes ago on the other forum, Sawatdee, a fellow forum member asked us to recommend the best massage shop in Jomtien. I posted a picture of my favorite shop using a photo that was given to me by that shop - as their owner/boss recently refurbished the shop and bought all of the guys a new type of massage shop team shirt. The team posed for the photo and I was asked to publish it as I told the guys that this question was being solicited in Sawatdee. I would hate that we cannot help our local guys when they ask us to do it. In my post - nothing sexual was written - no names were given - just an honest opinion about this massage shop.

Yes of course!! Since we have similar tastes in men :>)) I cannot wait to hear your trip report after you have already been with Zack at the Kmanspa.....

and now you have a new suitcase after the Cambodian mystery trip :>))

https://joooint.com/en/shops/450-SUPERMAN/images https://ssupermsg119.wixsite.com/ssuper119 I would write to them - they have LINE contact. This is how I turned 12 days in South Korea into a GREAT journey. These guys who manage these massage shops in Seoul - have HUGE lists of contacts and I am sure that they can access some of the famous South Korean twinks. It is up to you to make the first move.....

Vinapu, I would add to your list, those of us who choose to retire here to continue all of what is written above - because it is cheaper than in our home countries, the weather is better, the food is great, the beaches are wonderful. Furthermore, the big gay retirement community that is here gives us a sense of happiness and security knowing that we can avoid the assisted care centers back in our home countries, that might require us to go back into the closet for the last years of our lives. Instead, we can die with dignity, having our Thai guys take care of us until the bitter end - in my mind, this Thai type of assisted living care is SO much better than the back home version and is affordable. Last year, my mother died in assisted living care (she was there for 3 long years), and it was costing us between $7,000 to $9,000 USD each month - truly outrageously expensive. The assisted care center was nice - but very mechanical and mundane in its approach - not the way that I want to finish the last years of my life - so, Thailand it is for me.

Back in 2017 I visited South Korea and what I did was to contact various massage shops ahead of time where I corresponded with various managers who were able to: hook me up with masseurs who were willing to also be my tour guide, hook me up with massages after the daily tour was completed - this included arranging a massage with someone from north of the border who was living in Seoul, hook me up with a masseur/tour guide - all in one - where we could sleep together and go on side trips outside of Seoul. The reason that I went this route was that I could not find anything comparable to what we have here in Thailand (Bangkok / Pattaya). I was VERY satisfied with all of my arrangements - but the fees to make it happen was on the high side - as the masseurs were often playing a dual role and organizing transportation, tours, and massages with extras.

Whatever may keep you away from us in Thailand - please know that your heart and never ending kindness will be sorely missed. Wishing you all the best Vinapu!!

Do you know if this Dragon Man Club Pattaya is related to the Dragon Music Lounge Pattaya found in the Jomtien Supertown Complex ? Their dragon shaped logo/emblems/marquees appear to have the same look. on the left is the marquee of the club raided by the police in Pattaya city and on the right is the marquee of the lounge in the Jomtien Complex.

and this, Vinapu, is what made the 2nd part of your trip a blast - CCP's substantial monetary loss became the gain for the guys in Thailand - and I am sure that you brought many happy smiles with that sum....

wait until they figure out to calculate our individual carbon footprints - then the tax will be relative to our individual carbon footprint scores.

Lucas, from the Pattaya Youtube channel = Rides 4 Kickz, just posted a 2023 Burapa video - from the point of view of someone who rented a booth in the marketplace. He also shows some of the daytime events.