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Wow Emiel - I love your energetic spirit. Great time!! And this is something that I have not yet done with my off - as I am usually just too pooped / exhausted and I want to get him back to my room before my penis decides to call it a night before I do hahahaha... I cannot wait to read this trip report and to learn about the gymnastics that will need to occur. Do you like the game Twister ?

@spoon, BINGO - I also agree with you. Hopefully, @ichigo we do a looksy and let us know what is the format of these Crete parties.

As I wrote above - these 5 baht toilet stations are closed and locked by sunset. There are NO facilities (other than perhaps the Sea Rescue station) that are open AFTER sunset. And it is after sunset when the beach gets packed (Jomtien soi 12). I would gladly use the pay toilet stations, but I repeat --> they are closed at sunset.

Hornet is good value for money - my annual subscription is $29.99 per year and they don't add extra fees like Grindr does in case you want to know who looked at your profile - that is free. You also can follow other profiles and see who is following that profile and also see who is following your profile - great for knowing which birds of the same feather flock together - a BIG help when you are looking for similar minded people (i.e. who might have a proclivity for similar sexual activities) Meanwhile, greedy Grindr costs $19.99 per month and you need to pay extra if you want to know who looked at your profile and I do not believe that there isn't any follow member feature ? So, the cost for 1.5 months of Grindr is equivalent to 12 months on Hornet. Lastly, Heesay's annual subscription costs $59.99 - equivalent to 3 months of Grindr

Mine are all from the Pattaya area - unless Vinapu is in town then some BKK guys could get on this list: 1) B (Thai) guy from the Jomtien Supertown Complex, who organizes my 4 hands massages on 2 of my 4 weekly gym days 2) B (Thai) guy from the Dongtan gay volleyball, who organizes my 4 hands massages on 1 of my 4 weekly gym days For the other days in the week - if I would want sex - then it is from the apps - mostly from Hornet - as that is where I have the most success.

In my opinion, the local city government is at fault here. We all pee in the see because there is NO where else to pee. The city has not built any bathrooms that are open in the night when the beach gets packed because - as we know the Thais do not like the sun and they flock to the beach at sunset or afterwards and by that time the few public toilets have already been closed and locked up. so, if you need to pee - where should you do it ? p.s. I hate peeing in the Jomtien sea - but as there is no other choice on where to pee - I join the Thais and do it with them. I am always bitching and complaining about the coffee brown color of the sea water - but the local city government needs to improve the situation in my opinion. Just go to Jomtien soi 12 at night and it is packed - especially after the bars close....

Does anyone know what is to become of the ex Dolce Vita restaurant in the Jomtien Supertown Complex? I walked through the complex today in the morning and I saw some construction workers doing works.

yes - perfect plan - even include WhatsApp - but here in Thailand most of the guys use LINE. The alternate apps (Hornet, PlanetRomeo, Heesay {ex BLUED}, etcetra) allow you to see guys that are not in Grindr because of their broken kaleidoscope approach to the way they conduct their business.

Lucky you!!! Please try to take a peak. The reason that I created this post is because the Twitter (X) and LINE Massage Insider forum is really pushing this event. I am not familiar with this event and I was hoping that someone here in our forum would know more or has been to past events of Crete the Party. I am very curious to understand what are the possible interaction opportunities between the Guests (us who would buy this ticket) and the Crete the Party models ??

and I also took him based on your recommendation and I was very satisfied with all of his appealing attributes. Thank you @vinapu 🤩

I cannot wait to read your trip report 😋🤪🍆💦

Thank God that there are alternative apps 👍🤩

Watch this and let us know if you will give Moonlight a chance? 🤪🤩😛

The LINE and Twitter (X) group Massage Insider is pushing this event called: Crete the Party to be held on 30 November 2024 at the Crowne Plaza Bangkok (Lumphini) in their White Room from 5pm until 10pm. Ticket price is steep at 4,900 baht --> Anyone has participated in one of these events ? I see that this is not the first one. Twitter (X) link at: Instagram link at: https://www.instagram.com/crete_theparty/ In both the Twitter and Instagram links you can see many of these sexy guys

Unfortunately, the 3 times that it happened I was pressed for time due to the unpredictable inner city Pattaya traffic - as I had fixed medical appointments - where if I miss my time slot it can be painful to reschedule. It does not happen frequently - but I wanted to point it out in case this might happen to one of our forum members....

On an empty stomach my body's digestive system could NEVER process what I ate so quickly - so that end would be empty 😂

Hi @Moses, here in Pattaya there is a mini scam going on with the cars that you order via Bolt. You place your order on the app and 1 of 2 things can sometime happen: 1.) A different car arrives and it is usually those V.I.P. taxi cars. They cancel your ride in the Bolt app and they take you at the same price as quoted by the Bolt app, 2.) Your are asked to cancel your ride when someone calls you on the phone and takes you in a different car --> but price is same as the price quoted by Bolt. I asked why this was happening and these clandestine drivers explained to me that they want to pocket the money that Bolt would have taken from the driver as a Bolt service fee.

but you wrote earlier that you wanted to stay in Bangkok as it was cheaper and more fun 🤔 I also use https://www.thelimopattaya.com/rates/ for many years now and I am very pleased with their service. Eve and her husband run this business and they have other drivers available. I have even used them to bring hot sexy premium guys (only 2 occasions) to me in Pattaya from Bangkok and also from Suvarnabhumi, as that premium guy was coming to me from HatYai and I had the limo service fetch him for me.

or someone reports you for asking "how much" - as there is paranoia on both sides (supposed worker + potential client) with the way that Grinder polices their app traffic - which in my opinion should be confidential.

This is one of the many reasons that I HATE Grindr. They try to play GOD too much and consequently hurt our desperate guys who are trying to make a living. Then for us on the consumer side - we can't find the guys we want because they are not on Grindr for a myriad of reasons. Grindr is like a broken kaleidoscope that prevents us from seeing the many many guys who are actually willing and available. Just compare the number of profiles visible in Pattaya of Grindr versus Hornet for example = many more are visible and available in Hornet. Also, Grindr is very expensive (when compared to the other apps) and they are always upselling additional services for things that are basic on other apps - like to be able to see who visited my profile. Grindr acts like RyanAir where they try to make you pay for every single basic feature.

I would agree with your assessment @Olddaddy, - IF you are in vacation mode with limited time, then Bangkok has much more to offer. Pattaya is more laid back in slow mode. The days are long until the night life wakes up. During the day in Pattaya you can: go to the Sanuk sauna https://sansukthailand.com/ go to the Dongtan gay beach and relax, converse with the other gay visitors, get a massage, eat, drink, or get a massage or pedicure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JoP3wf-Mio This Thai guy presents on his Youtube channel a LGBT tour - at video timestamp = 2:35 he gets to Dongtan beach go into the Jomtien Supertown Complex and visit some of the many massage shops https://jomtiencomplex.com/jomtien-complex-gay-massage/ go shopping in Pattaya city center at Central Festival and/or Terminal 21 start early in the morning and venture over to Koh Larn island and swim, relax, tan on one of their lovely beaches with clean transparent turquoise blue water

source: https://thepattayanews.com/2024/01/04/2024-thailand-bar-and-entertainment-closures-and-no-alcohol-days/