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I don't really know for sure but can't imagine anybody stopping you from taking your drink and going upstairs. After all it where toiles are so access is not restricted at all

yes but set up of Good Boys in Bangkok is entirely different

good point Daddy

I'd say don't count on that on Good Boys. Not enough space for said divider

I kept about 700 in hundreds and fifties but figured out that I may have better use at home of those 6500 converted back. I can easily buy baht at home at roughly rate equivalent to that in Swampy kiosks in main building ( not at railway station) which is not bad. Also taking money from ATM results in the same rate foreign withdrawal fees are accounted for. So there's some loss but not as severe as with some other currencies.

Of course it is fake. Real term is Oct 2031, ( just kidding ! ) I don't have sour feeling, I have feeling that other vacation destinations may be more rewarding. Boys wise that trip was quite Ok if not better, warts and all. Vacation wise it feels like waste of opportunity to be somewhere else. If best days of my trip to Thailand were spent in Munich as layovers, it tells me something. I checked fares for Januray 2025 already and was relieved that so far all are above my self imposed limit of equivalent of 35000 baht

Great comments Bkk and I like them so let me comment back Yes , greeting in Banana was thrilling and self -esteem booster. It's how equivalent of bus fare where I live , tucked inside briefs by way of world famous and patented ' vinapu tuck" works I guess. ........................................... As for customer grabbing #31 faster than lightning, he did right thing through and through. Yes , he was sitting beside us and was watching boy intensely. He was sensible enough to ask mamasan to do right thing - ask me if I will be offing him. And he was smart and gentlemanly enough to grab boy when he knew he will be free to go but waited until I disappeared for that loo break to avoid awkward situation. In my opinion model bar behavior. Had he wait longer somebody else could be faster .................................................... Your analysis of Jupiter and it's boys is spot on. They are normal fun seeking boys. It's bar mandated disinterest which makes them looking cold and disinterested.. Next evening I was sitting at G'bangkok dining with birthday boy strategically seating by the walkway. Two Jupiter boys were walking with customer, no doubt offed. Seeing me they both smiled broadly , no doubt remembering me from being in the bar night or two before - I never offed them. One of highlights of this trip. .............................................................. That was very unfortunate we lost that option of swapping boy that lousy night. Next time , in Jan 2027 we need to communicate better, specially if staying in the same or nearby hotel. It would be fun , mother of all funs , when boy waked up in the morning seeing ugly old troll beside instead of handsome hunk you. In meantime I'd be happy to entertain his semi dead corpse - soon we learn it happened to me this trip and thank God for that. Bonus for guy likely would be two sets of tips, from you and me and I'd reimburse you half off fee as well It's second time such opportunity is wasted in recent memory. In July of last year 18past 19 who stay in hotel nearby and me offed 2 boys from Jupiter. Mine was supposed to be LT but after 3 hours gave up on my company and wanted to go home. 18past19's boy hired ST ( and one I salivated about then and I still do now - we did not see him this time ) expressed desire to stay till morning which 18 was not keen on. If we communicated I had a company to wipe my tears and boy two generous tips

But I want to be clear. It's not a pricing which made me feeling down on that trip. I was prepared to pay. In fact in exchanged back some money on my way out (6500 -more than one great overnighter ) It's overbearing feeling that some of them don't value our custom at all and feel free to lie and deceive for the sake of lousy buck. All bad memories with time will go away but one will stay with me for sure - I doubt I ever feel sorry reading that it's low season and boys are starving for customers as is was not an impression I left LOS with.

good news is , on day 11 I hit the bottom, after that things went up quite fast. But yes , it was frustrating, not only because delinquent boys but plenty petty nuisances - constant messaging 'when I will see you again, I miss you' type , or' tomorrow is my birthday , can we have dinner together " , excessive requests for tips in some bars - there Tawan stood out in wrong way, some unreasonable requests for tips for a session in the room, out of blue request by boys and staff to buy them 2nd drink or even more riling to buy a drink to mamasan. Those are small things easily overlooked but when accumulate en masse on otherwise not so great trip , overall impression is souring and one wonders if his choice of vacation spot was indeed optimal to put it mildly. But I get why you are jealous, I'd be too being in your spot and there is plenty rationale to feel jealous, I can see that.

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perhaps they should hire Thais to finish it, specially that connection between two is well established due to you know who likes to spend most of his time there.

it's why I shave every morning and while in Thailand also before hitting bars hoping reverse will turn true. ( for those who are curios what commotion is all about - "beard doesn't make you philosopher " )

Day 12 Sleeping with problem helped, First joy of saving 2500 last night. Second I have some consolators in Bkk and decided to employ them ASAP, send 2 Line messages and responses came after I returned from breakfast with bkkmfj. So day started to look bright. Then I found another 1500 $ in savings – I was thinking about October trip and planned on making decision after I return home. No need to wait till return, I don’t come. Last gossips with bkkmfj who is returning to Pattaya today, then walk from Raya to Sukhumvit through Lumpini and back to cool me down ( yaeh, big cooling in 30 degrees heat but it helped ). One of those morning messages was from boy not from the scene who I meet 1-2 times every trip. He comes whenever he wants and we never take offence if one of us doesn’t have time for another. Today he said he is free before work (works nights) and at 3pm I greeted him downstairs. We always order some food , he did it right away after entering in and in several minutes we were feasting on some Thai treats and Chang beer from my fridge. Quite romantic afternoon, I swear, even if I said nothing he sensed I’m distressed because he was much more tender than normally. At one point he even joked “now I go because I’m your day boy but for sure you will get another one for the night”. Prophet or what ? I wondered. Big rain in the evening and I’m sure he came to work quite soaked. Today I decided to see Fresh Boys, rarely visited bar by me as it specializes in twinks and that is not my usual diet. Bar was half full for the show , likely owing to that rain. Show quite progressive with plenty flesh and stiffies visible and touchable for a fee as artists are circulating audience offering feel for a tip. Boys many not necessarily be my type but there were 3 or 4 I’d take without any fuss. And somehow they felt it as exactly the same guys were cruising me quite actively . At 11 pm S came - that was my another morning message. He paid his off fee already so I reimbursed him promptly. Since he also came bit soaked I proceed to dry him out by taking shower together. We have our routine and there’s no need to worry about early leaving and other antics. In course of conversation he suggested if I want I can see his room tomorrow. Gladly agreed. So after very crappy night, great day and night followed.

Day 11 , part 2 Leaving Prince in the late afternoon I realized that my last meal was breakfast. So decided on destination Madrid Tavern in Charoen Krung soi 49. Brisk walk, after all I was just massaged by skilled and trained therapist, to ST Louis BTS , two stations to Saphan Taksin and then walk to KFC in Robinson complex for chat with other member who was feasting on their fare. I condemned idea right away, eating American fast food in city with such array of culinary delights looked like blasphemy for me but my friend was unfazed by my pontifications .After brief chat we parted ways and I continued to Madrid, about 10 minutes walk away. Greeted with smile as always, I did not need to say anything as lade only asked “usual” ? and in a second I had my Chang, no glass and soon heavenly smell of shallot with cherry tomatoes pizza filled the place. 365 total an finally not hungry. I returned by the bus. At 8pm both other members and me met at Foodland for our daily news exchange , discussed out todays destinations and decided to give a try to Banana club in soi 4. Both barkers were thrilled to see me being back in Bangkok, duly lowered their briefs for traditional red note distribution, one even followed us inside suggesting I by him a beer which I duly did because I like him , he knows that and is mercilessly exploiting it, he, he. At 9 pm bar was almost empty with handful of customers but there were 4 boys standing on the stage in front of us. All new faces and quite handsome, particularly # 31 whom I invited for a drink as soon as barker finished his beer and returned to his duties outside. Too bad I had other designs for tonight, otherwise I’d be offing him for sure. In meantime show started even if there were only few customers. Mostly ladyboy performers with lip-syncing but well receive but suddenly growing audience. At one point my guy excused himself an mentioned big c**k show and indeed in few minutes we could see him and few of his coworkers in their full glory. Me being idiot still stick to my original plan, in meantime other customer was intensely eyeing #31 who returned to sit with me after show and few minutes later mamasan came, all apologetic, to ask discretely if I will be offing boy. I told no, not today , then excused myself to go to the loo and after I returned few minutes later I was greeted by my friends with news ‘ you boy is already offed “ . I came as relief , otherwise I’d feel guilty an was even planning to give him 500 tip for his time with me but since he was offed, I figured red note will do. Then our trio decided to check Jupiter so we went to see that on this Saturday night bar was very well patronized , we ended being seated upstairs , not a bad vantage point as it turned out. Of course all boys as always kept their sober, unsmiling , management mandated disinterested look, nothing ne where. What was new it were quite a few guys, by my estimation at least half were new compared to my last visit in May. Sadly a bit varied quality and if usually I disclaim I could off anybody from there, from today’s selection I can say that about perhaps every second. Show at Jupiter becomes bit more progressive with stiffies visible for prolonged second quite a few times. Big step forward for hitherto bit reserved bar. Two Asian girls sitting beside invited two boys to seat with them and I wonder how it went as one of them was gay and total bottom as per me forum friend in the know. Not my problem though. After show was over we left. Next step was HotMale as my plan was to surprise S with another off an if he will be gone I had 3 other guys in mind. As it turned out second scenario materialized , on entry I was told “ your boy already taken” so I was to take reserves. One of guy there I’m eyeing for quite long time and when he finally look at me AND smiled I waved him over. Drink, “you go with me ? ” , yes, “long time?” yes ,” how much? ”, 4000 – he must know what I paid S last time , go. As is my habit I asked about him being hungry and we went to Foodland, he was not demanding , picking up something simple and we went to my room. It started well with script adhered too but after about 1 hr he asked for loo break. I noticed he took his phone with him. It was quite a long break , perhaps 15 mins and when he emerged said he got message from his brother and needs to go now . Another disaster but knowing from experience that refusal will lead nowhere I handed him 1500 which he took without the grimace, no wonder and left. It happened before. It will happen in future but for some reason since it was one of sequence of this type of behavior on this trip I was devastated . Even wondered what is possibly wrong with me. Now I fully understand lesbians who don’t want anything to do with guys. If I had option of going home in the morning I would. I had problem of putting myself together for few hours but finally went to bed to do what they say is supposed to be done with problem - sleep with it.

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Day 11, part 1 Good night sleep after Y left till 9 , then breakfast with bkkmfj an latest round of gossip. Every trip I make trek to Central Rama IX as I have reliable information that one of my most memorable guys ever, one M from Senso if now hairdresser there. I don’t have any sinister motived but would like to shake his hand after all those years. Unfortunately this was my 4th or 5th attempt and I did not see him there. Oh, well , will try next time , it’s only 6 MRT stops from Silom. I returned to Sam Yan station ready to walk to Raya but bus 45 handily came to it’s stop and I went to Main Post Office as I has something to buy there. Since they started to but English sign on stops I found myself using buses more and more in Bangkok, not fastest way to go around but cheap and interesting. Ordinary bus it’s only 8 baht, AirConditioned about 20. There was some discussion on forum about Prince and I volunteered to go and check as place lately is completely unheralded here. It’s quite a walk from Raya , perhaps 30 minutes but it’s nothing for somebody who walks from Patpong to Moonlight regularly. When I approached courtyard some masseur emerged from the door, few more steps and we both were kind of shocked. James from Arena ! He used to be my semi-regular there alternating with Dit, I offed him few times and we even parted was last time I offed him in kind of disagreement over tip. Of course now it all forgotten. 8 long years ( actually upon returning home I checked my notes and last time we met was Nov 2014 so 10 years ) since I saw him and must say while he aged a bit on the face , body stays in as great shape as it was then, no fat , no belly , six pack still firm an as I discovered not long after, nor only six pack which is firm. I know that for a while he was at Sabaidee but never managed to see him there. So selection wise obviously I was set before even opening door. He was surprised I even remember his name and I was surprised he remembered our last off was in Patpong hotel (Pavillion). While he was reading himself for a session I had a good look inside. It all was it was there and in Hero previously , big glass wall and behind her dozen and half hunks , most of them smiling and pointing at themselves , trying to get my attention. I could take almost anybody present , standard is so high. Few familiar faces from apps and Line feeds of other shops and I noticed also Jack. Never had a pleasure with him , spotted him on my last day of Jan 2023 trip in one of soi 6 shops but he was not available , waiting for booked client already. Another member who was in BKK at the time engaged him few times and gave him BIG seal of approval. We couldn’t meet today as I already fixed James and mamas an told me he is already booked again. Reunion with James was happy one, massage was over standard, after all 10 more years of practice. We even exchanged Line and till end of trip I was getting messages in the morning and in the evening regularly of “I miss you , come to see me again”. They sensibly stopped as soon as I announced I’m on my way to the airport few days later. Prince is one of those upscale shops with prices to match. 1.5 hr massage course is 1500 and min tip 2000, I upped it by 200 and got impression that James kind of expected even more but said nothing. He told me shop is busy but almost all, he used 95% figure customers are Chinese. Few of them were perusing selection when I arrived and few were doing the same when I left. I don’t like post too long so it will be 2nd part of day 11

no, my last visit there was in Dec 2021 if you (or somebody else) want to read about that trip link is here and Chiang Mai section starts on page 5 https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/37210-third-time-lucky-december-2021-trip-to-thailand-in-covid-time/page/5/ Boys are there but I wouldn't go to CM to hunt the boys, rather to get some respite from heat of Bangkok and Pattaya and get some serious sightseeing. Chiang Mai main tittle of fame is being only city in the entire world where vinapu bought smartphone for his boy of few nights.

yes, thanks God for Russia Today and Komsomolskaya Pravda

to underscore point we both made , during Jessica's party I noticed one of models offered that 100 baht shot (Tum) was extremely uncomfortable after gulping it, making strange face. And so was one of ladyboy singers. My aversion to it it's personal, when I was 12 or 13 my two bit drunk uncles played practical joke on me and offered me small shot which I gladly accepted thinking It was not vodka and proud they treat me almost adult. It was not vodka , it was 95% pure spirit. I thought I'll die

we may still be but not so keen on travelling, specially far. Each time I go there it seems that flight is loner and longer and jet lag more severe and annoying on this trip it happened to me more often than I liked and as result I'm not amused like my aunt Victoria would say Similar thing happened in beginning of 2023 to one of our members, no longer active. Guy from Grindr turned cop . Now I wonder if it was the same guy. Not sure if it was free though to answer macaroni21's question. But what I recall they met more than once.

of XIXth or XXth Century ?

file petition with City of Pattaya I guess to re-zone entertainment areas

I wonder what Trump would say if somebody told him people eat pigs and even , horror of horrors , innocent chicken.

so if we have Thai SIM card we can upload LCR app and book online I guess ? When I was there back in 2022 I found process of obtaining ticket very tedious and resorted to use travel office help for a fee of course

as Italians say ' si non e vero, e ben trovato" or something along that line