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yes , some report would be nice as we did not have one for a while

I'd say I rather die old with shrinked dick than young with full sized, thanks God, dying young option no longer being available for me. What I find amusing is that ChristianPFC initiated discussion about dick size while by his own admission size is not important to him when selecting boys, I belong to the same sect by the way. nevertheless I found bkkmfj's findings interesting, thank you

I hope last three members will post some reports of their adventures as we did not have any trip reports recently

I collect miles but actual accrual was never reason for me to fly particular airline. While flying to Thailand I'm looking for best connection and then price, if I get some miles, good, if not - I'm not worried. In 9 trips there used 8 different airlines, only Thai Air repeated.

Exactly, it's why i told my friend just to shrug it off

no, if tempted to try , do that. If you don't try you will never know . Yes, I was disappointed at Jupiter too but I suggest go with your guts. It took me 9 trips to finally enter Tawan beacuse of mixede feedbacks, now neither very impressed nor disappointed at least now I know what I was missing and definitely will pay them visit next time, God willing.

In Pattaya yes but in Bangkok kissing , groping and testing dick's hardness in the bar is rarely if ever done other then in Nature Boys. As for rushing to beat others to a hot boy I wouldn't cry if on loosing end - had my share of disappointments with hotties and like my rules - catch eye contact and generate smile, if not I tip hot boy 100 baht and move on. / I have habit of tipping hottest boy who was not sitting with me 100 bht on departure from the bar/. Instead of testing everything I like a bit of adventure - to see how it turns out. Who said that all money must be well spent

I'm neither one of three above but slowly and surely getting there. It's why I like my boys as they skilfully overlook those shortcomings and for small consideration are providing me with their cheerful company. What they think and what their preferences are is unknown to me but never ever one of them showed that he is at pains being in my arms or whatever. And if sometimes they are lazy sandbags they are still there for me. As long as they like my tip even now , far away I think about them and still smile

1. make your choice of boy on stage or in the audience / sometimes they circulate among patrons or are sitting somewhere in the bar 2. make sure you made eye conctat with him and generated smile / step not necessary but will help / 3. motion boy to come over or call mamasan to bring him to you 4. mamasan will be looking for a tip / 50-100 / 5. talk to the boy, see if there's some chemistry, ask him if he will go with you, ask him if he wants drink, clarify of what you expect him to do, and how long. If planning long time / overnight ask if he is available, some boys don't do overnighters / You may wish also to clarify his expectancy of tip although some of us are not discussing that leaving to market forces. If he says ' up to you ' quite possible means he expects going rate, may ask for taxi money at end. 6. pay for drinks and the off fee , grab boy and go to your hotel or if you are looking for short time room , they are right there in Suriwongse hotel, boy will know. On my way I usually ask boy if they want something to eat and if they do ask them where they want to eat / not necessary but will show you have a good heart / 7.Close the door and enjoy your encounter 8. Tip the boy , kiss him good bye 9. if boy stays overnight and I liked him I always offer them breakfast in the morning, if they decline I escort them to the street anyways, I think is nice not to leave them alone to stares of another guests when they retrieve their ID from reception /again not necessary but if you like boy gives you chance to enjoy his company over meal with your knee toughing his /

Guy could safely assume that my friend is whoring and lady is just temporary companion as they could see each other at breakfast few days in row with different companions each time. Is pissed off because he completely ignored him in this situation. I think Christian's approach would be the best, wait until they part ways or at least excuse himself if in such a great hour of need and than slip a number. If in his shoes I'd console myself with thought that others are sharing my taste in companions / I was very pleased when lady sitting in X-boys beside me told me she likes boy I was with /

Them may have preferences like everybody else but still will go with ugly farangs for reason Alexx outlined. The same like us, most would be rather on vacations but still we are waking in the morning and going to work. We can only speculate what their preferences are if any, my guess would be young and busty ladies are their preferences.

Welcome to the forum. My experience from may last year is the same like Firecat's, attractive looking boy of sandbag quality.Good body and good conversation but other than that he was not even pretending he is enjoying my company, after 40 minutes announced that he is tired, collected his tip and wanted taxi money. I don't ever pay taxi money but tipped him as agreed even if completely dissatisfied just because he made himself available for shower together and at least was undressed all the time. Yes his expected tip was 2000, off fee 400. Despite that I will try another boy in future as body wise Jupiter boys are my type, ever optimist hope for better next time, Had one 6 or 7 years ago, no complains then but he was new to the game. I'd follow firecat advice - talk to mamasan and boy , be clear about what you expect. I'd also make clear about what tip boy expects. But my first and foremost advice is : before you pick up boy make sure you make eye contact with him and watch reaction. If he seems disinterested, be prepared for disappointmnet -this was my fault last time. If he seems interested making eye contact or even better - smiling at you either motion him to come to you or enlist help of mamasan who will expect 50-100 baht tip. You will tip boy at end of encounter in your room as this is signal for him he can go. Don't be discouraged by both firecat's and my comments as you may be looking for something different, as I said despite last time failure I'd try Jupiter again. In my opinion their show is best of all BKK bars and boys most handsome. If meeting will not turn out as you expect just chalk it off to experience. Move on across the street to soi Twilight where your have 7 go-go bars at your disposal . Dreamboys have selection quite close to one at Jupiter but is also most expensive. Good luck and have fun.

I agree with you, don't want to sound argumentative though but I'm pretty sure that quite a few backpacking types seen camping at night in airports world over are ones waiting for cheaper options in the morning. Usually more money at disposal means shorter vacations so we don't want to waste precious holiday time waiting for transport to save few bucks but younger and older crowd may calculate quite differently. And location matters too, its easy to splurge in Thailand but if one is landing late in say, London , UK may be more inclined to wait for train / bus however long it may take in order to save 100 pounds if not more I was told.

An interesting case was presented to me by straight friend whoring in the Sukhumvit area. In the morning during breakfast with his last night's lady another patron of hotel's restaurant came and slipped her piece of paper with phone number , presumably his, without excusing himself and no words were exchanged. My friend saw this guy in a the same hotel entertaining ladies in preceding days so motive is obvious and kettle is calling pot black as guy saw him in different company every day but he still is incensed by this behavior. I told him to calm down and shrug it off as he did not have an intention to keep lady past breakfast and should be happy for her. 1. What do you guys think? 2. Did something similar ever happened to you at either end? To answer my own question, I wouldn't have any problem if in my friend shoes but wouldn't dare to intercept somebody's meeting in a way other guy did, would be rather waiting for moment when they part ways. Did not have a case like that personally but have two cases of snatching boys, both at BBB Inn. One in the lobby last Nov when typing report for this forum saw farang picking up boy for massage, hour later he left grinning so I decided to hire the same boy still warm so to speak. Second one few years back saw boy visibly distraught leaving room on my floor with big slam of door, since he was attractive I decided to be immediate consolation and invited him to my room. Never learned what happened other then ' no good farang him"

In sex business like in any other most of the job is done by the average people. And top performers like in any other business tend to be demanding knowing their worth and at times pricing themselves out of market - circulating opinions about Jupiter boys seem to belong to this category, which I can personally attest to , granted , based on one encounter only. Used the same to be said about Tawan boys but recently for at least a year all feedback about them is excellent. And on top of this sometimes unattractive face is attached to very attractive body / top in X-Boyz Twilight sex show for example / and average looker is very good and willing bed performer. So looks are important but only when light are on, after we dim them other attributes are coming to play good heart included.

whatever makes you cum

ChristianPFC specified that this is a fantasy

I wouldn't reject place when you don't have a choice as one of my most favorite boys of all times was assigned to me from rotation at Bangkok Massage, saw him 5 times total which is my personal best with one boy. So really we never know what happens but I agree with Christian that best way is to have a choice, not fool proof though . My worst encounter ever by far was with boy I was salivating over 2 days before I managed to hire him.

Don't worry , this is not cooking class forum, we are talking sex all the time. Most of the above can be arranged either directly in bar / few of them have short time room on premises though/, best way would be to befriend bar boy who will lead you to further encounters and finds other boy for few-some or girl who will be happy being fucked by him and watched by you at the same time. Those are sex professionals after all and know their job and what's involved. Lots of home work and trials may be involved as not everybody will go for it , be specific when asking yet very discreet. My opinion is Thai boys are not big fan of cum, they cum for you or with you easily and almost always but run to the shower immediately after. Kissing is easy part and you may be surprised how hot kisses by straight boys can be , never hurts to ask though but I'm big kisser and rarely get rejected. Some of those things may cost you extra but not necessarily. A for filming you with boys it may be tough but not impossible to find naive one who will actually trust you that is for your viewing only as kokopelli rightly pointed out above / not doubting your sincerity but pointing that boy may/ . so yes , those possibilities are realistic , bring money though

Don't be too sentimental about our sisters toughing your leg- this is where your pocket is located , doesn't matter who you are with. Some of them are very skillful, not long ago we had thread here about stealing ladyboys. No need to be paranoid though , but if drunk I'd use 2nd road instead. You are right need to try new places and boys but always is good to have some trusted ones to return to, I call them my consolators and return to them after crappy encounters

Hope you report something about your findings, enjoy your trip

There's something true in Arena needing new coat of paint but still is usually my first place to visit when in Thailand . I like the boys and for sentimental reason - my first gay place in BKK was His in the same plaza

While my first choice is Arena and massage places in soi Twilight I would not venture to say that Hero is highly overrated considering that place is always busy even if doesn't have a website and is almost not advertising. So they must be doing something right and selection of boys is vast if one likes muscly , manly types Of course we are entitled to have our favorite and least liked places but is good idea not to allow bad encounter to be basis for opinion about the place. Worst ever encounter I had was with boy from Dreamboys and still consider that bar as the best in whole soi by quite a distance. To avoid tipping problem you mentioned I always keep different amounts in my pockets so if I have 1500 prepared but think this is excessive simply dig out to other pocked where have 1000. If boy exceeded expectation there's another pocket stuffed with 2000. Always use shirt with 2 pockets and pants with 4. This system allows to minimize risk of theft in crowded places and helps me to keep track on spending. Agree with Banana suggestion, never saw boys outside though. I like the place and on few occasion got detoured on way to Hero, never regretted. First massage place on the right side of Soi Twilight , just past X-Boys is Bangkok Massage, then few steps later on the right is Bonny, both have boys waiting outside and it's why I like them, selection can be made without actually going inside and steering at anxious boys like at in most places. Boys Bangkok in bar under the Dreamboys , both sharing owner , mamasans and boys. Massage place on the left further down would be X-Size massage, I must be looking destitute as after good massage with happy ending for both boy wanted 1000 . I don't good memories from the encounter but fault is entirely mine - picked up skinny twink , not my type and felt a bit uneasy.

world is full of injustice, they are talking beach and I can't open window this morning because it freezed

thank you for explanation, makes sense, At the same time you nicely pointed how thick skinned am I, hanging my head low. He, he, he on serious note it's fascinating to find out how our bodies are reacting to various stimulations we don't even suspect - I feel much lighter after massage when boy is using very long stokes and when use their feet to massage not just hands, I guess because foot skin is coarse