vinapu

Thank you ,I'm not short of self-esteem but your comment actually made my day. I'm glad I spent those hours typing useful or enjoyable things. If I can inspire somebody to improve their own vacation time , even better. I grew up in a family which considered vacations more important than worldly possessions and I learned to cherish every moment of time off. I understand other may have different priorities, that is what makes life colorful and corporations rich stop swearing at me LOL

I was brought to my attention that I should say: " once one at XBoys even complimented me on my choice of boy I had with me". my appologies , putting ash on my head right now and it will stay there till later

It's probably the same like tattoos or facial hair on the boys - some don't notice at all, some find it off putting and others still actually very sexy. People care to a great degree about different things , this is what makes life colorful. I had an uncle in the family , since deceased, whose main worry upon moving into beautiful, brand new house was that when he dies it will be problem to move his coffin through a bend in the vestibule. His son sensible answer was ' we move you through door to the veranda'. When I pick fights I only care about price, waiting time at connection and times of departure and arrival. Rest is just small nuisance or unexpected bonus. But others may worry about the pitch between seats, points collected , access to the lounge etc. But I love Haagen Dazs on Cathay flights- that's my bonus

thank you, blog highly unlikely but if you want I can send you links to all my trip reports placed in this forum since 2013 when i joined it is quite tempting , boy can be taken from PTY or even arranged to come by the ferry. Your comparison is spot on , monetary speaking I found Alek undemanding at all and with lesser appetite but Win has his advantages too - did not try to be my boyfriend no idea where Coral Island is but old Pattaya hands may help. We did not have problem with seasickness but sea was quiet that day. No doubt in my mind that money was well spent, it was fun.

what do you mean 'after wake up'? do you go to Thailand to sleep?

it was kind of spur of the moment and I even may be inclined to repeat in the future. As for the mall, that's inconvenience of having boy in tow, at times he may have his own ideas of spending time / and my money/

hope somebody from the board will be there to report on those special parties I never came that early but was at 9 on the last day of my Dec 2015 trip and it was quite a selection of boys available alreaduy outside of bar hours, arrange for a visit during day and make sure you release boy so he can be on time at work or ask him to come to your room after work be discreet in either case otherwise boy will ask you for 500 off fee he needs to pay for being late or absent

I, on another hand had one of my most memorable massages here, guy was so skillful that I had honest impression that three , not two hand are working on my carcass. But never saw him there later so did not patronize since

recorded already here , day 2 http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10161-december-2015-adventures-bangkok-and-pattaya-trip/

Day 10 When boy left I suggested we go to a Central Festival mall since I never been there. During day Pattaya is quite boring for me , statement which seems to rile both firecat and 1moRussian. Both on a separate occasion s suggested that one way of fighting daytime spleen is to take boy / s/ for a trip to Koh Larn. As soon as we crossed Beach Rd to walk toward the mall along the sand I recalled it when tout offered speed boat to the island for a meagre 3500 baht waiting included. Steep in relation to 60 baht ferry costs but did I mentioned I was in good mood. Left Alek there , went back to the room since I did not have that much money on me and in few minutes we were speeding toward the sunset or whatever. Thank you both gentlemen , not my idea of fun exactly because I like mountains and ruins not water and sand but for a change it was great. From ChristianPFC’s blog I recalled there is some hiking option on the island and as soon as we approached landing beach I saw some statue high up there spoiling Alek’s mood immediately when I told him I want to go there . Beach is very pleasant and water much , much cleaner than in Pattaya so no wonder island is so popular. Walking along the beachfront Alek showed me some famous local treats liker durian toffees and some fish snacks and I got a hint that I should buy him some. In a sense it was an eye opener to watch when he weights if 200 baht package is not too expensive compared to smaller 100 baht one . We use to think nothing about 100 baht but for them is actually lot on money which was obvious. Even more toughing was to see that he really doesn’t want to stretch my expenses to a upsetting point but loosen up a bit when I told him that where I live bus ticket costs more than 100 baht. So we bought this and that for him and his friend in the bar he mentioned fondly as his mentor / #31/. At end of walkway his salvation come, motorsai rental for 300 a day. Immediately he suggested that we rent one and he will drive me everywhere / likely hoping I will not have a time for this stupid hiking to the local MT Everest/ Little knows he about me but I let him have it and shotly world saw us crossing tiny island here and there , stopping along the way for an ice cream and on another beach to get few ‘ I know what you are thinking ‘ reprimands. Great pleasure sitting close to his fit body and holding to his hips and at times below . And there was this side road I asked him to turn in. No, not to find bushes but to go to a statue on the hill. I left him there since he flatly refused to climb with me so I went alone to a peak to get a peek of the island, sea and Pattaya in the distance. We were both happy, me climbing and him not. It was an afternoon already so we called boat to be ready and soon we were speeding toward Pattaya. Not exactly cheap but nevertheless enjoyable trip, thank you firecat and 1moRussian for an inspiration. On the firm land we went to Wat Chai market to buy another local specialty, some kind of fish in a jar and again I could see that there’s big difference for boys between 150 and 250 but I was not keen on seeing my boy suffering and bought him bigger more expensive jar again to see him very happy at relatively low expense. Then I thought after all that climbing I deserve a massage so boy went to the room and I crossed soi to Copa where I spotted some muscular hunk and went for 450 / 1000 treat . I told boy just massage and I’m glad he did not pay much attention to my specifications. Then Alek and I went for a dinner to the same place not only because delicious food but to get another glimpse of cute waiter. Over the meal we decided to hire another companion for a night and I suggested Toy Boys for a change. Quite busy bar , several customers, boys quite lively on the stage and again I left to Alek to pick up suitable candidate. He found somebody , we called him over , bought him a drink and sealed deal unfortunately for a short time only since he couldn’t or did not want to stay till morning. When we were ready to go all of the sudden Alek had a change of mind since another suitor declared long time willingness. There I have problem, I left decision to Alek, he is dumping boy over technicality and I had a feeling that is not fair to the boy so I decided to slip him promised tip and tell him he is free tonight at no monetary loss. He accepted his fate with smile and likely I’d too in the same position but I wouldn’t feel well if we just dumped him and told him to leave. Waste of money for a piece of mind , worth 1500 trouble. But substitute boy did not work out even close to the one from last night, at least Alek did not like him after all so whole task of entertaining boy was left for me , not an unpleasant chore on my part. So night activities proven both expensive and only partial fun. Chalked it to experience , in the morning boy got his tip and left before Alek even woke up finishing day 10 for me.

my pleasure , my pleasure, thank you

there's always novel option of leaving whole thing till morning. Beauty of long time off among other things is that instead of bar hopping and splitting hair which boy is the most suitable to take home , one has boy , warmed up right there. And it goes even without saying then long time off provides much more economical boy-hour than short time one. One hour with Saranrom boy will cost minimum 500, the same than grossly overpaid 8 hrs at 4000

Tea was mentioned in Pattaya part of report / ABomb /, at Tawan they don't serve hot drinks but many other bars in BKK and PTY do. While ago Christian mentioned that when bar hopping it's easier to drink a tea than get saturated with all those soft drinks or beer not to mention even water which is animal's domain to drink , not human's, but some still do. I borrowed that idea and executed. If going to one bar only I still stick to my beer

I hope it does not leave readers with impression that I'm all those underscored things LOL

or you can ask him to make you a coffee

I saw girls of different ages in all BKK bars at one point or another, once one at XBoys even complemented me on my choice of boy I had with me. In Tawan last Dec I witness scene of fisting female customer by one of their boys in full view of everybody in bar including her male companion, whoever he was / did not look as her father though/

great job again Madman. I can sign the last paragraph of your statement above with both hands

correct and rarely regretted, Tawan and other places. For those who think I'm Rockefeller's illegitimate son while 3000 long time is my normal rate, I crossed that threshold only 4 times over the years. There are 2 boys , one in BKK and another in PTY I'd gladly pay twice but so far I did not venture to off them or even try, savings of say 10000 -12000 baht as of today LOL.

Relax , we all have our priorities, concerns and spending habits and what one of us considers thrifty it may be another one who may think our spending habits are too prolific. So everybody is welcomed to share theirs , non issue things. I'm neither rich nor free spender in real life but all my life treated vacation as time for leaving home concerns at home and worry how to pay for it later. Somehow it worked for me so far for many years. I know at one point it will stop, once and for good and that time is near but for now I'm still rolling because I can, chiefly because I'm low maintenance at home. Day 10 was probably most monetary wasteful day of this vacation , report is being cooked and will be ready in few hours. As for paying boys, no, sometimes I don't pay what I like, there are cases when I need to pay my way out of trouble or to get good next night sleep but there are also those when I'd gladly pay much more but boy is happy with what I force into his wallet. As firecat sensibly noticed above while I splurge on human capital, my accommodation, flight and food costs are not high , shopping almost non existing and I just like feeling that my money is going directly to somebody's pocket instead of lining pockets of fat capitalists in Kansas City owning this hotel or that restaurant. Last time I had a coffee in Starbucks was never for example.

Day 9 After 8 nights in two different rooms and constant scandalizing folks on reception and in the breakfast room time to pack up and leave Raya. Well before agreed 11 a.m. Alek # 20 showed up all excited with the incoming trip and actually I was happy to see him happy even if whole idea of us going to Pattaya together was his. You made a merit Vinapu thought I. We went by bus from Ekkamai, we could take a van , slightly more expensive but delivering close to hotel but one just left so I opted for the bus. Fast and uneventful trip, in Pattya we were packed in one of songtaews waiting at bus station and for 50 baht per person delivered to Pattayaland , short walk to Ambiance and we settled in room on the 4th floor , nothing fancy and pretty small but so was price , fair deal and enough comfort for three of us / wait for developments /. I did not see much difference to a Le Café Royale where I always stayed so far, perhaps next time I need to check Copa to complete Boyztown accommodation. At night almost no bar noise seeping in even if we were facing soi. We were both hungry so at my suggestion we went to German restaurant on Beach road around the corner from Pattayaland, my regular dining place in PTY. I had my Wiener schnitzel, Alek some Thai fish treat. After lunch we went to Jomtien , took stroll along the beach and whenever we passed handsome boy Alek sternly remarked “ I know what you are thinking”. Not that I was in mood to deny. Few boys with farangs at Bamboo bar, Jomtien complex quite quiet in the afternoon. Lots of bars there and well staffed but I’m not bar person even without an escort. Then we surveyed Sunee plaza, still sleepy. For somebody who claimed not to be in Pattaya 10 years Alek he seemed to be very well oriented where we are but I did not drill the issue – what difference it would made? Early evening we parted our ways as planned. He stay in the room to catch some sleep and I went down to Panorama Pub to meet with Williewillie as agreed few days ago. We recognized each other immediately and had a nice conversation over the beer .In meantime at 9 boys of BoyzBoyzBoyz started their singing and clapping , few familiar faces , among them #41 Win , my off from Dec trip but he did not notice me and I was not pressing the issue either since I was with boy already . After we parted way I returned to a hotel picked up Alek and we went to BoyzBoyz Boyz for a show , Scene was crowded , tons of boys , lots of familiar faces , quite a few new but really if one if for an off it’s hard not to find suitable company whatever your type may be. Win #41 was doing coyote dance , still did not recognize me. I was also looking for Bank, my quasi boyfriend from May of 2015 but he was nowhere to be seen either. But now Alek was tasked with finding somebody to accompany us tonight and turned surprisingly picky so mid-show I suggested we change venue to ABomb. It used to be bar to find muscled boys but at least tonight if was twinks and boy next door domain. #99 Cambodian mini body builder I offed in Dec apparently moved to BBB but I did not see him there. I had my tea, much better than all those soft drinks or beer when one is bar hopping, an idea I credit Christian PFC with inventing. In meantime Alek was busy combing through the offerings and finally settled on one who meet his specification and was willing to go long time, 2000 baht. I approved both choice and tip and invited both boys for a dinner to busy restaurant on Second Rd between Pattayaland sois 1 and 2. When our server came Alek again looked at me sternly and said “ I know what you are thinking” . It was charming young men and if you ever go there chances are you will notice who I’m talking about. But he became in a sphere of dreams for many reasons outlined above. Great and busy night, our guest was perfect, well behaved when it was required and bad boy when necessary. Long night too. At 10.45 I chased them both downstairs to catch our free breakfast which is served to 11 a.m. only. Gave 500 extra to our companion , three men of roughly three generations and all happy , what a day ! And a night ! So I finished day 9 smiling.

if everybody will be hesitant to stray that far to risk choice of one or two boys how we will get updates? Last time I was there choice was limited but all of 5 or 6 them were muscled and tall. Even choice of 1 may provide somebody you will like .

in this case in a flash I decided I'm entitled to say yes for a few reasons main being he made me happy. Previous case was different - I sensed we may have a scene so I bought myself out of it for a 1000. As for throwing money we all do it to a big degree - 1000 $ on ticket, the same on hotels and wad on money spent on escorts be it 1000 or 4000 baht a pop, all this is just wasting money. If in doubt consult your siblings, parents , neighbors and co-workers. Why we do it? Because we like and we can. We are just sort of people who like to have a good vacation. Other like good jewels, good clothing , good concerts or gourmet meals. We like good cock , ass and biceps.

They are all over the place, wherever you turn , twink galore including most of massage places. In BKK Tawan and Jupiter may be exceptions but all bars in Soi Twilight will be your delight. In Pattaya all bars would do including BoyzBoyzBoyz and ABomb previously better known for more muscly boys. Exploring all places will give you proper sense of what paradise is.

actually #47 changed number to # 69, I should mention it in day 8 report but now I have a word from visiting dignitaries that he is back to #47. What reason it would be , I can only speculate but really I don't care. Also #3 Bos was using #23 when I saw him on the last trip. We are offing neither name nor number , we are taking home boy of interest, name and number irrelevant

yes he also goes by that nick but to me he introduced himself as Soda, this is also name some other members know him by so it looks he is using them both.