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When will sex tourism become cashless in Thailand?
vinapu replied to abidismaili's topic in Gay Thailand
song to my ears above. As a matter of my own policy I very rarely use plastic when I travel and if I do, only in places making impression of reputable - airlines , hotels, department or chain stores and such but even there I try to avoid it. I don't use smartphone for financial transactions unless there's absolutely no other option. Reason : I noticed that I keep better tally of my expenses when supply of money on me is somewhat limited. -
When will sex tourism become cashless in Thailand?
vinapu replied to abidismaili's topic in Gay Thailand
I hope this will never happen anywhere during my life time anywhere , not only in Thailand. It's always good to have an option but when cash will be gone so will option. Many things may go wrong and if they may , sooner or later they will. Technology malfunction, hackers, deliberate government's action , own or enemy's , just to name a few. Elevators are great but still even Mahanakhon has staircase. and yes , wouldn't it to be great to be greeted by immigration officer upon arrival :" Mr Raposa, on your last trip you have 27 transaction in Patpong bars known for prostitution which is illegal in our country , please go this way " -
When will sex tourism become cashless in Thailand?
vinapu replied to abidismaili's topic in Gay Thailand
I safely assume that there are many Thais , tilling the soil in some Ubon Nowhere who don't have bank account and it's for simple reason , not enough spare income to bother. As popularity of cheque cashing outlets in cities of rich world attests , even in our countries many people are going without bank account due to lack of money or sophistication or not meeting criteria to open one. -
When will sex tourism become cashless in Thailand?
vinapu replied to abidismaili's topic in Gay Thailand
some people like to boast of how generous their boyfriends are -
decent prices, haircut at 160
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and other way around is not bad either
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being shy all my long life I'd never do this in open bar like those in Complex No such inhibition in closed one though as long as I sense guy is Ok with that
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27th conformation that we are twin brothers, even if from different sets of parents
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that was my point. Fascination with new and unknown easily offsets litter here and there in the sand. The same way first timer in go-go will see only half naked boys on the stage without noticing that floor is sticky, glass dirty and gin and tonic is 0% gin and 100% tonic.
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hopefully from time to time some generous prince appears and will lavish , say, newest IPhone on lucky boy. Rarely but it does happen.
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all true , all good as long as boy is compensated fairly, not cheaply, fairly. always in my mind will stay situation from BBB where my intended boy was kept by lady customer as drinking companion for whole evening an at end of that session was tipped princely 100 baht (one hundred ). But I guess those situations are levelling of with excessively generous customers. The same boy showed me another night his semi- permanent customer, Malaysian ship captain, who pays him 3000 or 4000 just for in-the -room drinking session, both dressed.
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very good points. No doubt shops not informing people about minimum tips are doing disservice to both their guys and clients. We may assume that most tourists are doing their part about learning customs of host country but it's hard from universal in my opinion. Specially in this age when every information seems to be at fingertips, people are neglecting to do their homework about their destination , not only sex industry related. A lot of tourists may be knowingly playing stupid , claiming they assumed that 500 massage fee includes everything , boys compensation included, thus declining further tip and even pretending to be offended that tip was required but I'm sure there will be those from non-tipping culture which sincerely assume price is all in , just like in Japan. And in more expensive places like Jey , Senso , Prince , VCK or Glam with massage fees in excess of 1000 they may be partially absolved. So I agree , shops and boys should be doing better job informing clinets about their obligations and tipping practices. ................... good to know that boys are more assertive in their own , well understood interest. When I contacted Grindr guy in May about coming to my room , his first question was " will you give me money?"
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beauty is in the eye of beholder. new arrival from place far from any sea may consider Pattaya beaches top notch
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you will be , aim for Nov 4th. It looks you can do it also in the airport upon arrival, at least it was a case in Phnom Penh in August I was told but I had my thing done already
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+1 same same here, 1000/1hr, 1500/1.5 hrs that my benchmark unless minimum tip is stated higher. If it's lower I still pay my benchmark at least. Even in more upscale places like Jey or Senso , most guys state as their minimum acceptable 1500-2000 for 1.5 hr session
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No wonder 'old' in part of your nick. I's all business now and it was all business back in 2001, year of my first trip. Then in bar one met grumbling guys who were saying the same , comparing it to 80-ties Sure , we may have an impression they were more affective then but reason for that is in mirror in comparison to old photos.
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and why not if that makes donor/ customer happy and feeling better ? I don't know about laptop and gold chain but know boys who got motorcycle ( not motorbike, mind you ) and another who got new Iphone . Nothing wrong in paying well over market and be generous if one can afford it. I , for one , don't buy BS that such customers are spoiling market for others. Boys know real market conditions and won't be spoiled by such rare experience. On another hand there's crooked ethics of such over-generosity - there are probably more deserving people with more pressing needs than young and strong men who can easily make a living by honest work, and yes by that I mean also prostituting for fair, market rate. I can't agree with you more and at the same time disagree as strongly as I can. As I said above , nothing wrong with being generous , even very generous as definitely we can afford it (otherwise we wouldn't be there) and it's nothing wrong with making other happy. On another hand guys themselves must be first to remember they need to eat , pay the rent , live their lives , etc. Those things are needed to be paid for and it's why boys went for their type of carrier. In order to make money, like every person in business they need to strive to provide acceptable services at competitive price. Skipping on their promised obligations, cutting on time under stupid excuses, asking for money without any effort to provide anything in exchange are not good business practices. After last trip when I encounter that type of behavior almost every second day I'm no longer willing to be bleeding heart for boy's troubles as I suspect lots of them are self inflicted wounds. It's very hard to feel for guy who I treated with generous supper before our LT session and then as early as next evening he is asking me for money claiming he did not eat for two days because he did not have customers. Oops I'd say.
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Have fun there and let us know how you are doing from time to time. Bangkok waits for you impatiently
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because somebody else's money always generates a lot of heat. My habit is always to ask boy up front how much he wants. If he quotes too low, nothing stops me from giving him few satangs more at end of session. If he quotes high I either bargain down or end discussion politely. But I like to settle financial beforehand. Hate money discussion in the room and mercifully it almost never happens but had few cases when guy agreed on compensation and then tried to extract more under some pretext. Death sentence in my eyes. On another hand we should accept that boys have their own calculation what constitutes good or bad deal for them as they know better their circumstances. Thus not always 700 is exploitation and not always, say 4000 , is greed as he may have in his sight even more generous / naive customer.
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only when you purchase that option. Quite often they quote you two prices ' non-refundable " ( final) and with option to cancel up to certain date. Sometimes that option is only few $ more then non-refundable , sometimes price difference is very substantial (Raya comes to mind).
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they may instead start charging for their ETA which is free now. Quite possible increased tourist traffic will make up for lost revenue. Or they may increase airport taxes to compensate
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you sure it's LatPhrao 110 , not 101 ? there are some shops there already
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Seems in your jeans are giving up then ?
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so total 3 or African included in two?