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I had, but how sincere answers were no way of telling, some boys say 'both', some even : ' I don't know'. Sometimes on subsequent encounter answer changes, I presume they know me better and give more honest answer. After all it's hard to to imagine boy saying "I don't like boys" on the first meeting. The same goes with top/bottom question , they get to know us better more open they become. Since we both like the same types and even literally the same boys chances that they are 'gay for pay ' variety are great but I like them - they know they need to try better and they do. Some of the greatest kissers are boys who answer 'only girls , only top', no idea how it works but i know one thing -it works for me

and let us know what how you will see it. Keep in mind you will not find twinks there but not all of boys are big bodybuilders, quite a few of them are just well built. Mamasans are not pestering you at all , boys there are taking care of themselves but I never found any pressure, at end of day I can say men over there are behaving like men. "You like me , take me , you don't like , you still welcome here" style, at least it's how I see it.

Day 2 Thank you for all the ‘likes’ I received for a 1st day report, I think could be better written but on return I caught some cold and feel like used chewing gum at the moment so did not have energy to polish what I have written. Those who follow my adventures here know that I like to change hotels every 2-3 nights and true to form after Bos left I went downstairs to get some breakfast. It’s not big affair at Nantra but still one can get filled on toast , cereal , some fruit and tea / coffee. Then packed and rolled my suitcase down Suriwong to Raya, my first time there. Hotel is located just next to soi Twilight so location is very strategic and itself is an luxury affair with matching prices. In exchange for 85 $ prepaid back in June I got room of size of small apartment with a view , modern glassed bathroom , separate sitting area , two beds, big and small and even personalized wi-fi password unique to the room. Worth the splurge and sometimes good deals can be had on Agoda. Again I credit Xiluzer for an inspiration since he discovered that place for his previous trip and was kind enough to show me his room then. I’m not big on spending money on accommodation I spent so little time in but Raya was good value for me feeling more at home than at hotel chiefly due to a size of the room. Reception is on 5 th floor, only one with public access. Access to other floors is with the card only and it means that if you are bringing your guest to say, floor 7 room you are bypassing reception altogether and nobody knows who you are whoring, er discussing world affairs with. Only thing I found odd was that safety deposit box while hidden well in the closet is not bolted and can be removed by anybody , good luck with that as it was quite heavy and rest assured, not that my money added to it’s weight. Another thing less likable was that they did not permit to check in early as room was not released yet so I left my luggage with reception , received proper tags for it and went to realize tourist program to kill the waiting time. Namely I decided to visit Golden Mount temple. BTS to National Stadium , then short walk to Saen Saep canal, one with regular boat service , boat arrived in few minutes and after 4 stops we were at the end of line, short fun for 8 baht. From there it’s easy 10 minutes walk to Golden Mount, only hill of any size in the Bangkok topped with a stupa where nice panorama of the city can be seen and today air was pretty clear so view was quite fine. Entry was 20 baht and I recommend that visit to anybody, easy and cheap fun. On return I stepped out on the first stop to explore Talat market which is right on the canal’s bank and it’s of very manageable size. Since this is local affair prices are lower than in both Chatuchak and Silom / Sukhumvit ghetto. I treated myself by spending 100 baht on pocketed yellow / blue polo shirt with now ubiquitous in BKK motive of “Bike for Dad”, embroided , not printed. It seems half of the city is wearing those shirts so I blended in nicely. Gee, so much reading and no boy in sight so far. Upon return to the hotel I actually felled to blend of luxury and jet lag and felled asleep for good 4 hours, shame on me I slept alone with such a proximity of soi Twilight . Early evening marching to Senso, few boys on duty , as usual there all of them acceptable hunks , few familiar faces, few new, I took Nice who got good reports from some readers here and true to the form he turned out to be really nice, 1300 for the house , 1500 to the boy , worth every penny as far as I can see. Then straight to Oasis on Suriwong for my first treat of my favorite chicken with cashew nuts, their version I consider best of them all although today something was missing, not sure what, may be just fact that I was dining alone –rare there for me as this is my usual boy dragging place when I ask them if they want to eat. Later on I met Xiluzer who is at Raya as well for a trip to Screwboys just in time for their show. My favorite from last Dec trip – One left for good , mamasan even remember me being fond of him and greeted me at the door stating that One is gone. Had another boy sitting with me just for a fun, one who was my off in May. Bought him drink and slipped red note in his briefs but for a night I had my sights somewhere else. When we were ready to go then another boy appeared, even if fully dressed he looked very , very yummy. After short while he was grabbed by two ladies sitting in the back to great xiluzer’s disappointment as he clearly had his sights on him. Wisely, as it turned later, I advised him to wait a bit as see if girls will take the boy , left him there and marched to Tawan to find somebody to cling to at night. Show was over but not entirely. As usual few boys were flexing at the stage and in front row farang couple in late 30 ties /early 40 ties were sitting with lady having her legs raised quite a bit and I guess showing her jewels to the boys on the stage. It did not take long before one of them volunteered to step down and try his fingers there. Things were heated very fast and not before long he was fisting her in full view of audience, then evenly split between excited and curious and disgusted and disinterested. But live porn is was although before I left Tawan boy did not use his real tool yet. How is ended no idea because during all this I got reacquainted with Od#14, one I offed three times in May and decided to take him again. Great company even if his answer to my usual question ‘do you like boys or girls better” was ‘’I don’t like boys”, well may be but definitely we both liked each other. Not first time I found I have good treatment from the ‘gay for pay ‘ sector. And this is how second day finished.

thank you , you won't be waiting long , posting next installment right now

After trip in May I did not plan another one this year but got an inspiration from one of our members – Xiluzer and since very attractive fare came my way I found myself landing at 1. 50 in the morning at Swampy again. This is my 12 trip and I never saw such a long line to immigration at BKK aiport. Fortunately they were well stuffed and line moved surprisingly fast. Down to the public taxi stand and in 20 odd minutes I was in Silom already. Both highway and streets completely deserted. Includin tip nad airport surcharge it cost me 360 + 70 baht for tolls. Since night was supposed to be short one I booked cheapest room at Nantra Silom but they upgraded me at no charge to more spacious one, not that I resisted. As always when arriving that late I had my customary stroll through Patpong , Suriwong , soi Twilight and soi 6 but no freelancers , no bar boys lingering somewhere, just empty streets. Very early breakfast at Foodland Patpong and few hours of sleep. In the morning another breakfast at the hotel – very , very basic one and I went for stroll to Lumpini Park hoping to catch glimpse of big lizards not to mention sweaty boys pumping iron at the gym. And a bingo ! Who was there right at front – Sokchai, my favorite masseur from Bonny Massage. Did not waste time weather talking – learned he will be at his work place in 2 hours I made sure I was there. Great massage and afters including some fun in the shower- no other clients at the place that early. 800 for the house for 1.5 hr treatment and 1500 for a boy. After long absence I always feel undermassaged so next step was hop in BTS and trip to Banana to see if they are still in the old soi 11 place. Yes but I was told by the guy filling for the owner that move is to be made any day. My regular there Tao was present so I requested 2 hr. course which they don’t offer, suggestion was made to take 2 time 1 hr. courses but at 650 / hr it seemed expensive so I offered 1000 for 2 hr to the shop and deal was sealed. Massaage by Tao is by some mile best of them all. He was trained at Wat Po and it shows, on top of this he is polite yet adventurous , good conversationalist but never lets my wandering hands to detract him from the task. Great body too and thanks God he stopped shaving his pubes which was only thing I hold against him in the past. Couldn’t go home easily as it was heavily raining but after ½ waiting it finally stopped and I could walk to BTS Nana. Did not want to be late because at 9.00 I was supposed to meet Xiluzer , my inspiration for a trip at Jupiter. At thet hour bar was not crowded , boys as usual looking with #60 looking best but I remember warning that he is fond of rushing things and on demanding side so neither of us entertained option of offing him . Danger of bar hopping with Xiluzer is that we like exactly the same types but so far avoided fights over picking up the same man. Then we went to Tawan, bar I ignored for years but now my favorite by the mile. We caught some show, # 14 which I offed 3 times in May was in one of numbers but hidden behind sunglasses , I did not spot him but surely he did. For a first night I hoped to off # 15, Boy , one of their smallest men but he was absent for some time, apparently went home to Laos. But new star, young but pretty massive Bos # 23 caught my eye, waved him over, he agreed to the long time till 6.30 and shortly Xiluzer was marching home with his big boy and I in opposite direction with my newly found treasure. Great company for a first night – good sign for the whole trip as it showed at her end. In the morning asked for taxi money which I don’t like but on another hand I treat my boys with breakfast but he wanted to go home right away so I gave him that bonus, need to be said, well deserved. And so day 1 was over

From what I saw on Saturday they may be more hunky boys on the menu than in the old location

it would be nice to read report of your impressions here , first timers see often thing in different and fresher light than multi trip veterans

Keep reading posts here, by Feb you should have a good idea from reports posted where to go. high season is coming with more people arriving and hopefully posting their experiences including myself , back home already unfortunately

Banana finally moved to new location on Saturday , Dec 12. If Kevin , the owner, did not BS'd I was their first client at new location shortly after 2 p.m. Pretty easy to find, walk along soi 23 , after while you pass Urban Male on your right coming from Sukhumvit and then you will find yourself on small intersection with crossing soi. Banana is right on the corner,diagonally from small shopping plaza. It looks impressive, first floor has area for foot massages with few ladies working there as well as cute boys , on second floor to the left is lobby where boys will be sitting hopping to be your pick. All employees moved and I saw few new hunks as well. Showers are still outside of rooms in the locker area. All looks new , fresh and modern, I wish them luck.

""Consolation prize? You mean you have missed your first choice? By the way, I am glad that Tawan is doing well. "Think of Happiness, Think of Tawan" haha soooo true."" No , consolation was for showing publicly my inaptitude of operating tablet. Jasper, while at Tawan I have few first choices, one last night was exactly one we both seem to like the most.

"Take a photo of him and post it here! You can cover his face. That would be sooooo kinky!!" It would be something to look at but I'm of ''not taking photos of my companions and not posting them variety'', my apologies to all disappointed.

My apologies for spelling mistakes, getting used to typing on tablet and it seems I'm not getting good at it. Consolation prize- last night pick still here even if it's 10 am already. Sleeping soundly, my guess will be exhausted by my ministrations, Judging by crowded podiums last night at Taiwan and night before at BoyzBoyBoyz, news about scarcity of both clients and bar boys are exaggerated. Good bars are doing well.

Nothing hurts trying, at worst you will be left with excellent massage

Biguyby - short answer is : big time yes

Good luck, chase your dreams and one day they will bear , often to reach impossible is easier than we think.

Don't worry, sort up your stuff first, in meantime I'm following our steps from May trip and attended show at Xboys Pattaya last night. Proud to announce that noise level still barely bearable, guy with ugly silicone cock still there and ''special '' show was still on with the same boy bottoming, not sure about the top.

Beauty of Thailand is that you are never to old to get a shoot at willing company. Are you in Bangkok already? If yes I will be attending show at Hot male tonight and then I'll go to Tawan for my last night pick, you can join in. Welcome to the forum

Since I' m not muscular neither 35-40 and forget cute it explains easily why our encounter was strictly by the book, still it was worth it

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/9774-off-to-thailand-again-december-2014-trip/page-5 Link above describes my experience exactly 1 year ago Shortly answer is no, hire him for massage only unless somebody reports otherwise

In this case I don't consider this disappointment, his loss , he knew what to expect so either landed better conditions with somebody else or simply couldn't come. he was absent from the bar that day as well but his collegue made sure he compensated me. I will still off him in the future I hope

With great sadness I confirm I just checked former Magnolia location, place is closed, gay flag on the fence replaced with 'room for rent' sign

"What about with the goggles and no speedos?" Nice that somebody knows how to solve that problem

Nothing wrong with strong massage, we want massage, cats enjoy gentle pat on the back

I do , although not exactly at the moment - ordered therapist did not show up.

Thank you for a kind words gentlemen but vacation first, duties second, specially if trip is short, just 10 days but thanks God things are going well so far with only 1 mild disappointment. Just to add to suspense it looks that I'm firmly anchored at Tawan this trip and it looks that I will be joining chorus of those who think Dreamboys Bangkok are overcharging for what's on offer, last night line up was very Classic like with Twinks galore to a point of indigestion.