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With people suffering discomfort of Business class I wonder if Christian PFC and me are only people alive who are still flying long distances in the comfort of cattle class?

absolutely yes, please keep reporting. Always good to know what's going on in the wide world . Hope your gout went away

Thank you for dropping by and reporting to us . I guess we need to wait and see. Rarely venue open is instant hit .Hope they survive till December

that's the jump , from 400 to 600, either things are very good or very bad if they resort to such rises. When Dreamboy raised their off fee 650 we thought it crazy but somehow it work for them. While I found Dreamboys selection worth a price last November can't say this about Classic but it may be just me, not a big on twinks

not trying to be sarcastic here , just looking in the mirror, 15 years ago we were likely much more attractive look wise , hence greater stress for transactional side of things

possibly another attempt to resurrect Heart Beat Club in the same soi ?

sensible comment by my Indian co-worker whose daughter married happily Mexican guy against both families wishes few years ago: "they were against because they were racists, we were against beacuse we prefer people of our own culture" insert any other nationality / tribe / race and you have the same all over the world

enjoy your trip and hope you will have something to say / and show / about all those countries you plan to visit. Take care

with all this whoring it would not be surprising , on another hand you make a lot of merits by saving so many boys of starvation so hopefully this somehow levels off.

count me in

I think you hit the nail , whole problem may not be race based but product of ebola scare.

it was discussion about racism in Thailand while ago on SGT forum, Bucknaway resident contributor there , frequent visitor to LOS and also Black_American waded in but I don't recall him referring to any drastic incidents like one described above. Not saying that racism is not well and alive in Thailand, probably to the same extend like everywhere else, try to be white and enter bar in some Caribbean Island , you will see kind of attention your friend received, speaking from personal experience. If Pattaya farangs constantly are complaining about influx of Russians everywhere and Arabs invading Sunee Plaza, doesn't that imply racism? Very interesting article in The Economist from Oct 4-10 about Zambian vice-president / white / . When introduced to G.W Bush as vice -president, George clearly thought this is a joke. / page 58 of North -American issue / , is Bush racist too?

I don't mouthwash will prevent anybody from getting cold or worse but certainly makes kissing more pleasant so I always carry bottle with me when out, one never know when cute massage boy will derail him. Bottles provided at places usually have liquid diluted not to mention small risk Alexx mentioned above

It will be a while before other countries in the region will have Thailand's go-go infrastructure if ever

it's very unhealthy thing to get sick

are you going home after around the Asia trip or returning to Thailand ?

You did , I remember reading it. I agree that boys at Jupiter are best looking go-gos at least for those who like them on hunky side. Show is one the best although no nudity and I found mamasans there least intrusive. So bar is worth visiting but this is best done with boy from somewhere else in tow already. As to Willie comments above, my best offs weren't faces nor bodies but smiles, those even when faked indicate at least some interest so usually I go for them.

Despite of fact that my last experience with them was bad / dud, still in the rush to leave and asked for taxi money / , I'm still willing to give Jupiter a chance , no rush though. I recently received some favorable feedbacks so may be not all lost with Jupiter boys. I like their shows so drink cost for eye candy on the stage is a fair price.

I'd say Jupiter boys will be closer to the said thread quality although when I was in the soi last November Dreamboys had the best line-up with Zeus the second and rest quite far back, but this is just and only my opinion for my use. As for off price, yes 650 was and is far more than other bars are charging but as sweetener neither big cock nor fuck show participants were soliciting tips among us voyeurs unlike everywhere else. Since I always tip 100 each , 200 saved lowers effectively off fee to 450 which is almost in line with what others in the soi are charging. You are right with 5000, drink mine and boy's , off fee, tip for waiter and mamasan , dinner at Maxi on the way to hotel , boy's tip=4780 according to my books, expensive ? , yes, worth it ? can't wait for another chance to try first boy, second one was disaster so turned out much , much cheaper but I rather spent 4800 than waste 2000.

Everybody is welcome but I found it fascinating that quite a few members decided to start being active on the forum just to join commotion in this thread instead of usual travel and boy's tip questions. Perhaps you with membership dating back to 2006 can shed some light of what 's the reason.

I hope to make detailed head count in couple of weeks and promise to post it here. I don't pretend to be any expert on bars as I hunt massage boys but still make a point of visiting bar every night just for a fun

while subject is well rehearsed and discussed we need to note that nothing is ridiculous in those prices if bar is still full. While it may be ridiculous to us to pay that much I'd not to call those who are paying them stupid if they see value for their money one way or another / even higher domestic prices and non-existing go-go bar scene for example /. As long as we still have an alternative and as you noticed it's plenty of it all is good. Last year in that very soi Twilight you could have 1 hr Thai massage for 500 with 500 minimum tip and it was still up to you who was massaging whom and what muscle was devoted special attention to. So clearly there's choice / still /

I don't think so, feel free to entertain us here as not everybody reads all forums. I don't have a feeling Asians replaced us in soi Twilight but true , they make big chunk of clientele. Only bar i truly feel like visible minority was Jupiter. Whoever visits it's good as keeps bars running, I hope they discover soi 6 as soi Twilight could use some competition IMHO

super cute smile

Dreamboys off fee is the same like last year, drinks went up by 20 baht but 2500 tip seems like steep increase , last year I was quoted 1500 short time by both boy and mamasan. One hired long time wanted 3000 in the morning but I gladly paid since he worked hard to earn it. Obviously Dreamboys is doing something right if they manage to pack the room, I'm not surprised. Year ago I found their selection the best by far as long as my preferences go. Chinese girls misbehaved at ToyBoys, now farangs at Dreamboys BKK, good to know that fun still is to be had in LOS