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I second that, it was actually your recommendation which took me there and I'm still smiling at recollection of their 4 hands treatment.

From comments of one of the readers of Christian's blog it looks that Guy Spa in Sukhumvit Soi 19 is closed to good as landlord did not renew apparently. Hope they re-incarnate somewhere in vicinity as this was good place full of hunky guys.

Praelu, there are no doubters above , just well wishers with some experience of farang-Thai relationships pointing some possible bumps on the road to happiness, often proved very illusory. It's nothing difficult to understand falling in love but if there 's love , there is no doubt and where's doubt there's no love, just lust and may be hope. If you feel need to check on person you adore this is not love, it's diligent preparation for business transaction IMNSHO / In My Not So Humble Opinion /

back to the original question, apart from DD Inn and possibly Two Faces any other places with short time rooms around Jomtien Complex?

actually I do exactly as you advised Bob, plus carry copy of important pages of my passport in my hand luggage. Hate wallets as they are bulky and are drawing attention , particularly in poorer countries where people , crooks included, are of opinion that all Westerners with exception for backpackers possibly are very wealthy

I wouldn't be surprised if some German tabloid made sure that his fame is not contained to just Pattaya, his choice of companionship was definitely poor but from time to time all of us can tell the same about our poor choices

I jumped in defense of Malaysia since I consider it best value for money in BKK along with Om Yim / rooms at Malaysia are more spacious though /. Yes , one still had to pay to computers access in the lobby . When I was there exactly year ago boys were gone, chased out by the management apparently but recently somebody / ChristianPFC ? / reported new sightings on them at front so hopefully all back to normal at Malaysia. From website it looks that DDInn is also very good value for money, specially at such seaside location, very handy for Bamboo bar treats too.

you are right, probably they meant' 25 years to retirement" which would work around your guess

I'd not call Malaysia with private full bathroom, room controlled A/C, refrigerator and ancient but still, TV very basic , rather adequate

UPDATE, part 13 now available , no English subtitles so far

Unless robber has some hidden assets

Not only Mr. Joachim is reunited with his wallet but also has free publicity with his face splashed across the news as a connoisseur of Pattaya male companions. Can't say I'm jealous for all his celebrity. Would never happened to me - I don't use wallet at all.

Very sensible and mentioned by many here already, before you decide to move permanently spend year there to see if you like the place or not. Being tourist and resident of the same place are complete different things. Sounds obvious and trivial but is often forgotten by the many. Wishing you good luck in execution of your well thought plan and waiting for promised travel reports

Thank you Bob for that expression, laughed to tears this morning.

I'm not surprised to hear that. Back in 2001 I had serious foot problem and doctor was of opinion that my super comfortable TEVA sandals are ruining it , which I did not believe but to make story short he proved be right so sometimes what's comfortable not necessary is best for us

nothing wrong with such warning and a policy, never mind spelling of signatures

start preparation for posting travel reports here - check

Even this is not hard rule, I recall few cases / Magnolia, Scandic, SawatdeeSpa in soi Pluk Chit / where boys were dressed all the time and even resorted to adjusting my wandering hands and still at end of massage extension of service was offered and I dare to say, gladly accepted. It looks that some boys don't like blending massage and afters but rather divide session in two. Never had a case of immediate price negotiation so can't comment on that but few times at more regular massage places along Silom mid-way through massage boy indicated additional possibility and either asked how much I give him or indicated his price which I did not mind. As for immediate negotiation though I recall case when in the shower before massage boy asked straight ' who will be f....g whom? ' and when I asked what he prefers he said ' whatever customer wants", this is what we call client service ! No money mentioned in the case at all though.

Don't get upset and keep posting, if you read responses you will see that quite a few of us liked it and this is what counts.

when I saw you quoting me for a second I thought ' here it goes , second opinion about the place' so I'm kind of disapointed that it did not happen. while you are perfectly right above, there's big difference about every place in Thailand and world famous, cum soaked, quarter of Patpong . I venture is not unreasonable to expect that bar or massage place located in those few precious blocks between Silom and Surawong will provide some channel to the pleasures of the flesh. Hence OP decided to treat us with his report saying that it is not necessarily always a case. Report is balanced and fair, I'd not even say is critical and in no way of castigating. He just told us what you repeated after him - that not every place we think is sex massage place is in fact so. He just did it on much more digestible form that "Intolerable crap shooter" / or is it crap thrower? / from post #6 Buyer of lottery ticket has right to expect to be a winner, right not granted to those who did not buy such a ticket. Visitor to massage place on the " proper " side of Silom has reasonable right to hope that his sexual advances will not be summarily rejected. He does not have right to ask for them, even less to request, but certainly is not unreasonable to enter massage parlor there hoping for some thrill in nether regions. If it actually happens will depend of client , masseur or masseuse and policies of the place but I'd say visitor can be a bit surprised if such located a place will turn out to be just proper massage place and no more, just like one in the Oriental Hotel. I wish more of us would be coming with reports like OP from various places without a need of hearing pontifications.

I must say often I have better experience with straight boys than gay ones. I guess it more depends on boy's business sense than actual sexual preference. After I landed one of my best boys by way of assignment at Bangkok Massage, soi Twilight I'm no longer averse to this method. Often fate knows better then us , it's why from time to time we are chasing dream boy who turns out to be dud, speaking from personal experience unfortunately.

Short changing me for time rarely happens in massage places probably because I always make sure that boy knows I'm watching time, either by placing watch back on my wrist after shower or pointing at the clock on the wall and reminding we have 90 minutes / rarely I go for shorter run / . If we finish early , spare time will be used for some hugging , caressing etc.

Thank you for your report and a warning. now I wonder if others had similar experience there since you possibly just picked up 'wrong ' guy. There's an advantage when we select boys from the line as we can see who is smiling at us and who is not

Update : Part 12 now available and has already English subtitles

I flew Tiger from Bangkok to Jakarta and back in May 2013 and it was not that bad at all and I'm not particularly tiny,