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Visited twice in Dec 2014 and happy to report that selection improved, both firecat and me saw some potential and we like completely different types, show more tame due to happiness campain but golf number still presented

As of Dec 2014 still open, few boys on duty, not Apollos but not ugly either and not shy at all. drinks and off fees half of soi Twilight level so nice alternative for those who are horny and on budget Don't be afraid to visit, I was with Christian and boys did not pester us, room upstairs available if you want to get close to your chosen one right away.

Very friendly staff on reception, two computers available in the lobby well positioned to check eye candy passing by the entrance, safety deposit box in the room in working condition. cheap beer / 40 baht / on reception, they even have an elevator. A/c a bit slow to cool the room but at least quiet, Not fancy place but well positioned attractive budget option

Visited in Dec 2014, easy walk from Asok BTS, boys will line up for you, 6 or 7 boys available at time of my visit, not shy, I liked place and an experience and will be back

Easy walk from Chong Nonsi BTS, map above accurate, I visited in Dec 2014 and was happy with massage and a boy choice, outcalls 7/24. Yes you are picking up from the book so good place for those who hate intimidation of picking up from the line.

wouldn't be easier and cheaper just to down glass of whisky for good night sleep?

still boys are much more poor than you, tip fair and err on generous side I'd say

I like to check them all if possible as one never knows if new talent arrived or not. Best example from my last trip is Screwboys, barely visited in the past, this year I was dragged there by ChristianPFC and found my gem - 6 offs, 5 of them long time, exactly half of all offs from bars during whole trip

I understand you are talking about Dream Boys Pattaya, not Bangkok, right?

No problems with guests at Nantra, actually none of 3 boys I brought when there had to leave their ID with reception. As xiluzer says above , they don't care. As for safety deposit box there was one in the room but did not close. likely they could fix it easily / I had the same at Take A Nap, fixed in no time / but I did not bother as at end of trip I run out of money and used box to keep my laundry only

I like to take things slow and it's why I usually off long time, short timers are notorious , at least for me to rush things up and try to skip on time commitment even if negotiated. Now I firmly resolved that I will tell them up front in no uncertain terms that cutting on time will result halving of tip / done for boy from XSize already /

Next time I will try deluxe room at Nantra as location is excellent with 8 or so massage places within 200 m radius, one can easily spend 1 week there without crossing the street in search of suitable company. I agree, one should invest in boy drink at Jupiter and talk to a boy a bit before taking him home . Truth is , they all look great with #43 and #72 leading the pack for me

you will be happy at Malaysia, take it for granted, no joiners fees for sure, screw Pinnacle

just walk like you own the place but since you need to pick up key from reception usually at that point they will ask your guest for ID. Some hotels are pretty strict and some quite lax, although if you longer time resident often they skip this request. When he will be leaving most likely they will call you to check if everything is OK, I usually walk with boy downstairs to prevent boys form any embarrassing comments or questions.

not me but still brings best of memories ! thank you

I usually buy some clothes in BKK, not because of price advantage although bargains are aplenty but because I like something I see. Last trip / actually only last Sunday / I bought of all things very nice down filled winter jacket at Central, Silom Centre. I did not even know they sell such things in Thailand. It came very handy when on arrival home I learned it's -8 Celsius outside. In last 4 days since arrival it worked well in frost , snow and rain. Wonder what's next - going to Greenland to buy bikinis?

Problem with this approach is that even if you insist and boy gives up and does this or that, encounter still will not be enjoyable as all will be done under kind of pressure. I'm actually very tolerant and undemanding when comes to underperformace but hate with whole my heart and soul when boys tries to skip on negotiated time, doesn't matter how sweet he is as soon as he mentions that he wants to go I feel pissed of. This was my case with Boy from Tawan, truly great and enjoyable chap but story about parking car invented to get out earlier almost made me vomit so I gave up and let him go with negotiated tip. Thankfully as you noted staff is mostly reasonable and this type of incidents is mercifully rare / 2 out of 20 offs last trip tried successfully to cut negotiated time, in one case I cut his tip to 1000 from 2500 , in second one above I gave up but not immediately/. This never happened with massage boys, no wonder I have soft spot for them.

I'm not avoiding Jupiter beacuse I like their show, mamasans are not pushy and all boys are eve candy but I'm one of those who had disapointments there in the past as well . My advice would be to negotiate with boy carefully including length of time and what he will and won't do. With your bad experience we at least know that boys are not discriminating against farangs here, I think they are just bit too full of themselves. They may be shooting themselves in the foot - one of night walking along Suriwong with xiluzer we met one of their best looking boys Ti #43 I had hots for coming after work. Because my last year's disappointment with his colleague it did not even cross my mind to take advantage of situation and hire him right there. Boy went home without off and so did I. I regret this and hope for correction in the future.

Thank you very much Michael, good to know that all this typing was useful. Actually I enjoyed putting those reports together and I know that even I will read them form time to time in the future. Is only 4 days since I returned and I start missing LOS already

Welcome to the forum, It would be interested to see how such hotel treats guests, my guess would be they just turn blind eye as long as boy is dressed properly and fortunately almost all of them are, it's us farangs who are sloppy dressers in LOS. One thing is sure - you will have a fun in BKK, wherever you stay

I forgot to mention that on top of massage boys from massage places I had also real massage , no hanky panky involved by Jirapat, professional masseur in Pattaya. Session was impressive and I felt the difference but to be fair all those 5 mentioned above showed comparable skills and lots of skin as a bonus. Will see him again if ever in Pattaya, I hope.

we are waiting for your posts but remember, you are on vacation first and posts are coming distant second, enjoy every minute in LOS just like I did recently.

I have 3 comments here: 1. I'm last one who would tell anybody that is tipping too much. As long as you are satisfied with the guy and figure out if was worth it , I consider your money well spent. Although 3000 is maximum tip I'd give for any length of time on last trip I exceeded it on few occasions by giving 100 of taxi money on my own incentive or giving 500 extra to boy for an excellent massage he provided. We may be spoiling them but at times so do them to us. 2. Speaking about duds, on my trip above in 19 days I did not see even one I can describe as dud even remotely. Yes 3 boys kind of pissed me off tiny bit but still they performed very well. With one from Magnolia for some reason we did not chemistry so excellent massage did not lead anywhere further . Boy from XSize was very good but reneged on long time and left after hour or so under parking excuse but I cut his tip to 1000 promising that he gets rest when he returns, he did not but then I realized that i really need some uninterrupted sleep that night so it worked for me , thank you. Tawan boy , I bargained him down not being sure if he keeps time and I guessed rightly as he was looking for excuse to leave earlier again under parking excuse, had he stay full time promised I'd give him what he wanted originally because he was good. So I consider this his loss, not mine. 3. speking about dud II I forgot I promised you story of African guy who chatted me up in the BBB Inn another morning. He had hots for #60 from Jupiter, one of the best looking guys there where all are very good looking and offed him short time, boy requested 2500 African did not mind to pay. But in the room boy not only did not do anything to him but even flatly refused to shower together and after 30 minutes or so sandbaging told African he wants to go back to the bar because his clients are waiting for him . Shocked guy paid negotiated tip but was visibly distraught and pissed off, rightly so. Since this reflects my own experience with Jupiter boy from May 2013 lesson from it is that with those boys, as great looking as they are we need to negotiate firmly and up front or leave them alone.

Go-go bars in Bangkok Visited most of them, only missed are Super A, Be High and Fusion. While last time star for me was Dreamboys, this time it was Screwboys and I credit this to Christian PFC who dragged me there right after I arrived and we met. I saw boy I liked there and finished offing him 6 times, 5 of which were long time. This is rare for me as I prefer massage boys over go-gos big time since they usually are older and have more meat on their bones and this is type I'm hunting for. It looks that jeans are gone and boys in all bars visited other than Fresh Beach Boys are back to parading on the stage in underwear. For some reason boys at Fresh Beach Boys were still in jeans at least before show, possibly because this is ground floor bar and if they were in jeans bar could entice more clients by keeping door wide open. Zeus went out of business during my trip but I managed to get boy from there before it happened. All bars in soi Twilight, Jupiter and Tawan have shows, Golden Cock and Nature Boys don't and at Screwboys it varies so enquire locally if interested. Jupiter show is tame as always was with hardon sticking inside of underwear at times but all other shows feature all usual numbers with plenty of cock visible, always dressed in condom though. Sex shows are still absent although I'm not so sure what was going on at Fresh Beach Boys at end of my stay , some acrobatics under the veil in dimly lit bar were very promising. So it's only matter of time when acrobatics will start again. At Tawan shows ends with J/O contest as long as patrons keep feeding tips into glass As for quality of boys in bars of soi Twilight I still think Dreamboys have the best selection with all others more or less the same with somebody for everyone and the same goes with Screwboys . Jupiter are hunks only as always and Tawan bodybuilders actual and aspiring, again as always. Golden Cock and Nature Boys were disappointing when we were there with Christian but still at least one of boys was passable so no problem giving them a chance in a future. As for drinks price is climbing steadily reaching 400 at Dreamboys and Tawan . Most other bars charging 350, Screwboys 300 and Nature Boys and Golden Cock half of that. Off fees are 400-500 and 650 in Dreamboys. What I found new , now they quote expected tips more readily less than usual ; up to you ' answers but this is good and bad news, bad part being that some boys are quoting 2000 for short time and 3000 for long, boy from Dreamboys even told me that this is bar policy so make sure you polish your negotiating skills , still 1500 /short, 2500 / long seems to be a norm. My advice to myself would be to negotiate everything in advance in the bar to avoid future disputes and what is even worse, boy looking for ways to finish an appointment early, happened to me twice, no tragedy though. Some boys are trying their luck clearly, Tawan boy wanted 3000 for 1 hr appointmnet, stand your ground or give up depending of how you like that boy. It must be said that all negotiations were in good nature and I did not have any bast moments in those 19 days. Go-go in Pattaya visited all go-go in Sunee plaza other than Good Boys against advice of everybody claiming that boys there are not my type and they were right, all twinks, some very nice but not my area of interest. Under age problem is cleaned out it seems but sleaze in the bars still present so be prepared, drinks 120-180. In Boyztown missed only Vassa and Freeman but definitely best selection was in BoysBoysBoys with A-bomb, Toyboys and FunnyBoys trailing a bit behind. In every bar visited was at least one boy I'd take so no loser as far as I'm concerned. As for shows, one at Copa and Wild West Boys did not impress me , XBoys was much better and only one with full on sex including tip parade among us , voyeurs. BoysBoysBoys show was by far the best and so was their selection and no wonder that out of 3 nights in PTY one axe murderer faced from there helped to warm my bed for 2 of them. There's no doubt in my mind that this is the best bar at the moment out of all I visited both in PTY and BKK this trip. Do not miss their 9.p.m. outside show when boys are outside singing and flag waving for a 10 minutes or so. Massages I love those, this is my reason to be there and had at least 2 a day. I see benefit in well being and massage boys are usully closer to my desired type, older and muscly. Visited all wellknown places and scores less popular , some in peripheral areas of BKK. Liked Pattaya places as well although had a bit of disappointment in Magnolia, still the best place there but something did not work between me and a boy this time. Everywhere massage itself was at last good with quite a few of excellent. In every place you can and will get more, either because you will initiate intention or boy will do it first. It's up to you of how much of purchased time you want to devote to massage but if you interested in getting one I suggest do not be too fast as boy may skip on that part according to your wishes. If you are shy type , don't be afraid , gentle scratch of boys knee at some point will be sufficient to signalize you want more and let him take a lead. Quite a few of them don't like to be derailed and want to finish massage before better part starts, M at Senso even clearly told me when I will be able to tough him and it actually made a lot of sense. As for top/ bottom problem , only in one place /Shape / question was asked right away so if that's important make sure you ask first. Prices for 1 hr oil varies from 400 to as much as 800-900 depending of place, minimum tip start from 500 to 2000 for 2 hr. session at VClub and Prince. In some places tip depends of length of session in other is just uniform. The same goers with boy being dressed or not, my preference is when he starts dressed and I just wait for moment when he will not be. Places vary from very basic / Health / and in need of good scrub /Arena, Uniman/ to classy and spotless /Prince, Senso, VClub/ but it needs to be stated strongly that ambiance has nothing to do with quality of both boys on offer and massage - Arena is still my # 1 place full of friendly hunks. As for selection in every place you either pick up boy from line /Arena, Bangkok Massage, Bonny / or behind the glass / Hero, VClub, Prince / and in many places boys are invisible and you will chose from picture album / Baan Tewa , Shape/ or iPad / S52,Magnolia/. So adventure is there since each place has something different than other. I visited few places in far away areas of Bangkok and will do so in the future. Ivariably question arises if that is worth the trouble of travelling sometimes pretty far / Man101, Fundoshi / . Answer is yes and no. Yes because you get out from traditional Silom/ Sukhumvit ghetto. Some of those places are in quite interesting areas of the city, prices are lower and so expected tips although cost of getting there must be taken into consideration. Some English was spoken everywhere and I was welcomed in all places. Some of them like Shape or Jay seem to be far away while in fact you can be there in 20-30 minutes from Silom thanks to BTS. Only risk you are taking is that selection may be very limited. In most of those places with notable exception of VClub and Jay Spa number of boys on offer was 1-4. / Waternest, Fundoshi, S52, Shape, Man 101 /. May be I had just bad luck or arrived in wrong time as those are places catering to locals rather that tourists and their timing may be different than that of leisurely tourists. I had good luck that always I liked what I saw but somebody may be disappointed that hunk seen on the website may not be actually there so either take your chance and just go or call ahead and make sure he is there. My best massages were in no particular order: Tao from Banana One from Screwboys / yes, go-go boy / Fay or Fi / spelling? / from Arena, M from Senso, Art from Uniman all of them using different techniques and working very fast which made for very intensive massage experience

Thank you , you way too kind. My first 8 trips were short ones / 5-7 / so I used to spent days in BKK very intensively and this habit seems to stuck with me even during longer trips like last two, truth is I sleep very little when in LOS and not only because I rarely sleep alone, for that I have home.