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bar not for the faint hearts, boys very adventurous and better looking than on the website but only if you are fond of skinny twinks. Not my type of boys but must admit one of most lively bars on PTY

I visited them in Dec 2014 and was not impressed neither with show nor line up of local talent, hope new owner will have some ideas of how to put some life into that bar

not trying to defend any nasty regimes but can't help to notice that overthrowing bums in power in Iraq and Libya so far did not seem to improve lot of ordinary people in both countries and Secret Polices were less murderous than unruly zealots who replaced them. Sometimes it seems it takes years for freedom to bear it's fruits

Don't forget I was there in second half of Dec blessed with very pleasant weather. You are right , boy hunting is very energizing.

I don't see reason for age discrimination, if you like the boy tip him accordingly. If he behaves, is not rushing to the door as soon as deed is done and stays longer than 2 hours I'd give 2000 if I sense this is prospective future off as well. If I like him but don't think I 'll be taking him again 1500-1600 should suffice but he may ask you for taxi money. Those are my guidelines for myself, you may find he will be satisfied with 1000 if you picked him up from internet or the street but go-go and massage boys from parlors will expect 1500 short time in BKK likely, ChristianPFC is doing OK with 1000 with bar boys but he is much younger and is cashing in on age premium so to speak. General rule should be that boy don't feel exploited and you don't feel being taken advantage of . Guidelines from z909 links are pretty accurate. If boy is reneging on promises made earlier in respect of agreed time , leaving say , in 1 hour while agreed to 2 don't be shy to voice your displeasure both verbally and by tip reduction. as for strict sex I'd be more forgiving since he may promise to bottom but gets scared if you are too big for him or promised to top you and will not because will not find you attractive enough to stand to attention. In such a case I'd tip normal and chalk loss to the experience. Since you seem to like the same type of boys I do , masculine and older, word of warning: if our paths will cross grab your boy fast as I'm one of those speedy acting farangs and if I like a boy usually in minute or two may wave him over.

Koko, don't forget nothing enlivens forums more that money discussion. Busy Sunday for me but i will try to wade in later

for some reason I remember that day when I was 9 and my mother 32 and this was even before Harold Wilson became Prime Minister. She seemed so ancient and ever since to this day I consider everybody over that age old . This approach has advantages - any boy over 32 I consider almost my age, whaever his is.

what about boys of say, Tawan,Jupiter, BoyzBoyZBoyZ or ABomb, over 30 and looking it , still looking bored while etc.... but certainly knowing what they are up to due to years of experience on stage. And they are your / and mine / type and age bracket we both like Do you find it demeaning on their behalf ? If you find such a scene sad why you are tormenting yourself partaking in it? Nothing wrong with connecting on social network and basically we all are in one of two camps, those who prefer social sites on internet and those who like to see what they hire in flesh. Both approaches have advantages and adherents the same way coffee and tea have and one can't say one is better than another , it's just matter of preference, just as you said. Gem can be found anywhere and by any means, one of my best boys was simply assigned to me as masseur by the mamasan without even asking me , another one was in pains in the bar to avoid my eye as long as he could but finally gave up , smiled and we had 5 long time offs and one short in 3 weeks, quite unusual for me , the former butterfly. Quite a few of those 'massage boys' are actually very good at giving proper massage , believe you me I mean it literally . One of best I had was by go-go, one of 6 offs above, not even a massage boy.

125 % agreed, specially if hawkers are well built cuties in singlets and shorts

yes, today is first day THIS YEAR with temperature just above zero Celcius but I still hate Bangkok's heat and humidity sapping all energy from me

thank you williewiliie for keeping us updated on Pattaya bars

OOPS ! But what do you mean '' only" ?

many things could change in those 30 years...

one night in Dec I visited all 5 go-gos in Sunee and Sunny was busiest of them all by far but still was happy to return to BT and it's bigger boys

one source I consider credible claims that Taiwan men are most handsome of all Orientals

that's not true and not nice either

that's cruel and insensitive

I still believe that boys would not steal at all, yes , there are incidents of theft but very isolated and no need to be paranoid. At least I feel very secure in parlors and never had cash or anything stolen - I'd notice it due to way I'm distributing cash in my various pockets. Not being naive I'm checking it right after I leave just in case but so far all good.

Moses, you are right again

why somebody would be hauling cards with him to the massage parlor where only cash is accepeted? Sometimes we are inviting our own misfortune by carrying all and sundry with us when safety box in the room or on reception would do the job. I don't even use a wallet , less bulk , the better

your post was great , relax

just to clarify, when I was talking about being stupid I meant myself as I still don't get it why your fairly innocent article generated so much heat, certainly there was need for vent but why?

Even old Bangkok I wouldn't call particularly dirty, still my most favorite city in the whole wide world although with crappy climate

I hope you are just kidding that you were reduced to tears and lost your sleep over some comments here, was it really worth ? Honestly I still don't get it why OP became source of so much controversy but sometimes may be it's better to be stupid and not know I guess.

do I read it correctly, firceat in Pattaya and we are not getting any reports?