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and some stay because it's their lifestyle, others will stay because there's no other choice but still some will stay to boost self esteem , part of so called retail therapy the same goes with expensive cars, clothes or watches etc., few people buy 5000$ Rolex just to check what time it is some don't but I do

it seems we are doing our best to lift boys out of recession since quite a few members are reporting arrival soon or already there,

welcome to paradise, is Took Lae Dee one adjacent to Foodland in Patpong 2 ? have fun and don't forget about us

you are right, I don't like staying in the same hotel more than 2-3 days and definitely don't need to stay in nice hotel to boost my self -esteem but understand some people do. Still think Om Yim is the best value for money as long as they make toilets flushing properly.

Picture this, NewYork - Taipei nonstop with China Airlines back in 2002, my longest non-stop sector ever. All flight attendants are young men in late twenties, none shorter than 180 cm. Too bad they were dressed, I tell you. Still smiling at memory. Quite a few ladies among passengers asked to have their pictures taken with those hunks. Never before or after I saw passengers asking to get their picture with FA of either sex

if it's any consolation , not only your heart is bleeding on the subject. I found the same , staying sober on the plane works the best , yuk !

2000 baht / night and they are calling it low prices, ChristianPFC did you hear that?

all three mentioned in post #18 of this thread

not disputing it but judging by Pattaya reputation I was expecting to see merry girls everywhere and I saw grumpy boys instead and this was before I even arrived at Dolphin roundabout

For the same length of flight including connection time I'd fly cheaper line , saving 50$ would be worth indignity of alcohol deprivation and visual indignity of well fed attendants.

don't you have any compassion? Rich people have their own set of problems LOL

I, for one , always stay in LeCafe Royale. A/c and safe in the room working, no insects in sight, rooms on smaller side but I don't rollerblade in the room, invoices also on smaller side which I like the most. Some people are complaining about hard mattresses but they must know something I don't. Firecat is right that in Boyztown everybody knows your business but will they really care? Do you?

you?

my apologies but this is what I reported right after arrival there in my "Off to Thailand-November 2013" thread

yah, yah, even water was more wet those days

anonone found cure for that , he is partying whole night and sleeps day over, bonus- no need to fight jet lag. But I agree with you , in May on the fifth day I was glad I'm going back to BKK because I did not have an idea what to do if I stay longer but there's solution - take day trips to BKK

that's very easy, just think about all your friends already six feet under and one immediately feels winner by being on the right side of the grass

don't take it too personally, my impression was formed looking on main streets well before I steped in Sunee or even Boyztown

Steve , I'm glad you liked it. it took some time investment every day when there so it's good others have some use of it, either as entertainment or source of information. When comes to boys in LOS it not only body contact but also whole theater around the trade. All those drinks , tips, shows. mamasans, deliberations who is the best looking and wondering if he will be of any use are making Thailand vacations fun and fulfilling. As stated before I'm not Rambo at all but truth is I get a kick when there and even surprise myself with energy I'm generating with very little sleep I still feel rested and on vacations. Even now, typing it I'm smiling to myself. We are wired differently, saunas and beer/host bars are not my scene. I'm still to visit Babylon and DJ Club and can't see what pull soi 4 has on all those crowds congregating there. I agree with your comments about cost of entry to the paradise. Your figure of 100$ per boy may be accurate if not underestimated if we take into account drinks, off or massage fees and of course tips, in my case almost always long time. Somebody may call it waste but I know plenty people careful with boy or girl spending but splurging money on hotels , restaurants , shopping and business class tickets so I guess we all have our indulgences. We in agreement of how '3000' should be placed. I'd not spend this on upgraded ticket even if related to Rotschild because I know I will not sleep on the plane heading to BKK out of excitement. I like being massaged, I don't need it but feel better and I like gradual build-up of tension and excitement. On economical side I'd rather spend money on being massaged than the same if not higher amount on drinks for me and a boy. Most importantly because I like muscly boys on manly rather than boyish side it's easier to find them among massage boys. As for STD I'm not naive, I know they are constantly exposed and some of them seem to be careless too so mentally I treat them all as HIV positive and infected with everything else. Full protection and no kidding, no sex is better than unprotected one. This is one of reasons I prefer massage places and go-go over street and internet trade. Half or almost naked boy with some kind of infection quite possibly would show it before you even look THERE. You don't try to stay away from unsafe sex , just STAY AWAY from it. If in doubt , just let it go. Hand holding session overnight at end of day may prove much more pleasurable than best fuck of your life

what you did not like? just curious? My first impression when there first time in Nov 2013 was plenty of sad and lonely old farangs wandering or sitting aimlessly. But on next trip I somehow adjusted and did not notice them anymore, they still were but subconsciously I treated them as part of scenery I guess.

you are not getting old / you are like all of us but it's not a point /. Sunee's location is such that only regulars will find it. When their number is dwindling due to biology or other offers plaza suffers and it will unless substantial marketing effort is raised which I doubt it happens. You better get a good night sleep to sleep over all this negativity, why you would be waiting for a decline? You are in paradise man ! Just keep smiling , not looking for bad things to happen

I'm curious too about Japan's avoidance

Go to Bangkok. Like firecat noticed above , if you don't try it you will never know what you are missing. Since we don't know you nor your favorite types of boys we can only advise based on what we are and what we like. Some will swear by Pattaya and never spend much time in BKK, there are others who are parking themselves in Bkk and visit Pattaya rarely or not at all. As for boys you may find your gem everywhere. But what is your gem? Skinny twinks in Vassa or Cupidol and Sunny Plaza but also in Classic , XBoys BKK or Screwboys. Looking for big boys ? Nothing beats Tawan , but if their boys are too big you will find decently muscled in Jupiter, Dream Boy or Hot Male as well as in BoysBoysBoys or ABomb. Shows are more ubiquitous in BKK but ones in BoysBoysBoys or Xboys Pattaya are as good as BKK ones. Massages are by far more popular in BKK and number of venues is in dozens but if you are there week you may have enough decent ones between Magnolia, Narcissus and Royal House and all three Pattayaland soi 3 ones. Since you mentioned you are coming for boys only what do you do during day? In Bangkok you can be occupied with shopping, sightseeing and boy hunting whole day. Pattaya is more compact and after few days everybody and his brother will know what you are looking for. I'm biased, visited Pattaya only on my 9th trip and did not even liked it but encouraged by some here decided to give her a chance and it worked, returning ever since and adding 1 more day to each subsequent stay but if forced to choose it would be BKK no doubt, but it's just me. Price wise Pattaya seems to be cheaper on almost every account - hotels, restaurants , bar and massage fees, drinks and tips but are you really going for vacation to worry about 30 baht difference of breakfast price or 100-150 in cost of drinks and off fees? Yes it adds up over week or two but wouldn't be cheaper to stay home than sweat over your wallet 7/24 ? Bangkok has solution for it too- Saranrom boys are charging uniform 500, soi 6 bar boys will go with you for 1000 ST and drinks are 100-150. Acting on paulsf advice above I recommend Bangkok because gay scene is more varied and there's no danger of boredom for me during day.

they are waiting until we get horny after peeking here and there?

I always maintain that one attractive boy is what one needs. Sure , crowd on the stage is better as it helps with selection but if you see boy you like that's good enough even if he is only one in the bar. Since Boyztowns seems to be deserted BBB boys probably decided not to bother with their 9 p.m. clapping and singing in front of bar. Happen once when I was there in May as well.