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1. As Keith said above , in case of girl bars you barfine them , in case of boy bars you off them. It's why you see term only on gay Thailand boards. In order to take boy of premises you must pay bar " off fee ", it's usually 500 baht but some bars may ask for more. In Moonlight bar it's 500 for go-go boys but 1000 for "models" , That money goes to bar , not boy. Boy will be tipped by you in the room 2. No, there are taxis available and you can take him wherever your hotel is although it's not unknown to science that some boys may not feel like travelling too far , specially to unknown area with after all, unknown customer 3. You see guy you like , you can ask mamasan to bring him to you or , like I do, just motion him yourself to come to you . Usually you offer him a drink to know him bit better and discuss terms of engagement but it's quite possible that you do 'dry run if you are decided. Just ask him if he goes with you and he will go to dress in street clothes. If you notice some suspension of reaction , its better to offer that drink and talk to him over drink about what you guys exactly want to do together . You can take guy at any time but those who are in the show (not all boys are) may not be permitted to leave before show ends. The same goes with waiters , thay may be free to go only after bar closes 4. there's recent super handy map in ShamelessMack blog https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/2024/12/30/map-of-silom-surawong-area-december-2024/ there are basically two areas where massage shops are concentrated - Silom and Saphan Kwai and one area where bar are-Silom. You see map of other area also in Mack's blog. Keep in mind that massage shops of our interest are spread all over the city 5. no, Atlas is in Patpong 2, The One )it's how Tawan is now named is in soi 6 (Tartawan ) about 300 metres away - check map ,mentioned above. There's word that lots of Tawan guys, but not all, migrated to Atlas so you must check both bars. And of course report your findings here.

tell us something we don't know😉

how much is off fee for guy at the centre of third picture ?

what do you mean ? we are not here to get even. Member who started this thread just joined a and with a bang giving us report from newly opened bar, it would be good if such thread stays on topic

yes, always will. That's the guy who when covid struck instead begging his clients cup in hand got a job washing shoes in 2nd hand shoe store, just to stay afloat. I sent him some money alarmed by forum member about his dire situation even if we met only once before that. Two years later our paths crossed in soi4 and he recognized and thanked me , again even if we met once. So yes I have soft spot for him and not only because his good look and elbow's shape. Two weeks after that unfortunate incident we met in Pattaya and made up. Saw him almost every trip ever since and God willing , will again.

+1

yes but my motive was hope for another interesting report. FreshBoys guys are not ones I'd be jealous about, not that there's anything wrong with them , I just happen to like their older brothers better

I get it., makes sense . Some readers of my trip reports may recall about two years ago I took guy from Pattaya to Bangkok for 4 days of vacations (for him) and he lasted only overnight. When in the morning I pointed out that when I'm awake he should drop his phone and pretend to pay attention to me, he just packed up, said ' wish you good luck" and left. Granted , it was extreme case of addiction and he cured himself of it when realized how much money he is forfeiting because his telephone and smoking habits. Last time I hosted him I don't think I even see his phone.

beep, beep, beep, all posts above are very interesting but we should not derail Atlas bar thread as Patpong is very far from say, Minas Gerais

I must say it's not my experience , my friends and cousins over Christmas were more annoying in this respect than most boys I met in Thailand where guuys seems to reacyt well when I tell them 'leave that phone " if comes to it

Because they can be bought cheaply in second hand stores

We are talking about Atlas bar, home of hunks which may be everywhere in say, California but kind of rarity in SE Asia so obviously their market price reflects that. Guys from other Bangkok bars may be happy with 2000-2500 and Saranrom guys are still asking for 500. Drinks are mostly 500 in some bars bit less , off fee almost uniformly 500 , only Moonlight from models is asking for 1000 and they may ask 6000-7000 for a tip. As for Pattaya drinks there are 200-300 but BBB wants 1050 of fee for their guys and apparently XBoys wants 800. Classic boys may be the same. In my opinion it's hotels in the Silom and Sukhumvit area which went up the most so when you will be coming use old travellers advice " bring half things and twice as much money" . Rest assured fun is still to be had in Thailand. Comparing prices to what it was 5 years ago is counterproductive and only helps to make you bitter although it's favorite sport of all of us. I noticed that when I change subject to earnings comparison , subject tends to be changed.

I know you, you shy

so which one you took home ?

easy done , point at your feet and say ' no' , make sure it's coupled with hand gesture. To be sure point at another feet and do the same or do what I did when I had wound on my foot and did not want guy to touch it. I brought sock and put it on that foot just before session doing the same " no' and gesture

Usually the case

we all are waiting but one of secrets of good reports is they must be written when poster feels like and not pressed or rushed, specially when he reports while still on vacations

I use highly diplomatic and circular approach and we we settle on program I shyly ask ' how much you want ?' there may be two kinds on answers: 1/ he quotes or 2/ he asks ' how much you give me?' if 1st case I either approve or counteroffer and that's the end ,if he doesn't agree we just go for vanilla massage during which most likely although not always he whispers "ok, ok xxxx baht" in 2nd case I quote and we are in underscored part

and they wonder right away why the hell you are still dressed ?

I asked TotallyOz for permission

No, I was just reading about it in The Economist

and again, without crossing the street

don't fell into Olddaddy's trap, he was making fun of us

not at all as we can plainly see in the originating picture. Sudan was my poor choice of country - comment was intended to be about garbage all over , not dead body on the street. I should chose some other garbage infused provincial city in different country indeed. as for Reality , people are defecating every day but somehow don't post pictures of it in their social media and nobody will accuse them about hiding the truth.

indeed but if you walk in they usually have 2-3 guys on duty, all of suitable quality