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while at first look it amounts to exploitation and in fact it is indeed, we need to consider that Myanmarese and other foreigners treated that way may not necessary share that view. When they repatriate portion of their earnings to families at home it may turn out that purchasing power of that remittance there is much higher than it would be in source country. As example - when I was in Myanmar back on 2001, in Mandalay I was shown decent looking , free standing home and was informed that it can be mine for 2000 or 3000 $. While no doubt prices went up since , difference in purchasing power still exists.

One doesn't hear that every day

Day 8 , last After my guy left I had good sleep till late morning , them went for breakfast and returned to the room to pack up. Earlier I asked about the option of late check out as my plane leaves at 7.pm but I was told by lady who seemed to be in charge that there are no rooms available. Considering that other guy , manning laptop in the lobby seemed sympathetic to my query and I notice strange grimaces sent his way by said lady I think they simply did not want to bother. No problem although it would be nice to have room till , say 4 pm. I found solution, left my bag on reception and went to soi 6 to have massage at Maha with diminutive hunk there , Nut. Great , no rush session. At 3 pm my last chicken and rice soup at Foodland, minutes later reader joined me for latest gossip and he walked me to mouth of Convent Road here we had our good bye hugs hoping to see each other very soon. Train to the airport was very crowded but no surprise there considering it was peak hours. At 7 something pm my Gulf Air A321 took off on its way to Bahrain with me inside waving good bye to Thailand for 36th time. In sharp contrast with September this time I was leaving with bleeding heart. Considering what brought me there I was in need of something uplifting and this time guys delivered , one after another. Even bump mid trip with underdelivering Banana guy, mostly on time , was not that painful. Who would think that my best guy will be from Jupiter ? Even now , week later I’m kind of amazed . And I still have my sights on another hunk from there, one who mildly pissed me by not confirming his tips with smile but I’m not giving up on him for two reasons, first he was recommended to me by forum friend I absolutely trust judgment of, second because he looked much better in flesh than on pics and clips I saw of him before .So it looks for my next trip whenever it will be I have my homework already assigned , I’m not giving up that easy. I’m glad that Handsome Cambodian with whom I have long history of offs , not all of the happy – once he dumped me after I complained about his constant surfing on his phone , looked happy and somewhat settled. I have soft spot for him because of his troubled , early orphaned life. Chai, new discovery in Arena was joyful and I cherish sense of achievement of finally being engaged with #10 from Moonlight and #31 from Banana I pursued for some time. Very uplifting fact that all bar one of boys I known previously bar that I engaged this trip performed , I must say even better than previously. No games , no stupid excuses ( I overlook last night because I have feeling it was not malicious ). Only think I feel sense of missing was another meeting with Y from Moonlight but simply our schedules did not align. Those familiar with my report perhaps notice one , so far always present , thing missing - absence of visit to Tawan. Yes it was on design. I still love bar and it’s boys dearly but this time I was in no mood to partake in their constant ‘ tip, tip, tip “ requests. Even when I had chance meeting with K on that famous corner , he immediately raised his shirt and asked for ‘ tip for eating “. I wish them well and hope to visit in the future but this time I gave them a miss and I ‘m glad I did. How far I went from days when my trips were on Tawan monodiet ? But not my fault. Life is strange thing. One week you attend your best , lifelong, friend’s funeral, next you have week of your life and one of best of my many trips to LOS. I love you life !

For that we don't need to pay that much. Any shop with grannies sitting at from will provide excellent massage for fraction of the tip

You must be right as its not a first time I hear complains about boys being mistreated by fellow Asians. I always recall case of Tawan boy taken as trophy boy to Malaysia , well treated there for a month but at end sent back with some pittance like 2000 baht or 100 $, don't remember exactly, like lavish dinners pay for his expenses home.

Day 7, last full day After breakfast S and me parted ways, spent some time in the room because of rain then took Chao Praya express boat to Chinatown and walked from pier all the way to Hualampong station battling crowds of shopper there. I witnessed an accident there when small truck turned into side soi , hit the awning which promptly collapsed on the stand below it. Fortunately there were no shoppers at the stand and lady manning it was not hurt. At 4pm , T , my Jupiter hero showed up on the dot and, floridarob pay attention ! we marched to Mahanakhon. It was quite crowded atop as people congregated waiting for the sunset , admission is steep 350 for seniors and 1080 for the rest ( up to 3.30 pm it’s 200 less ). Visibility was so, so but immediate metropolitan area was quite clear. It was fun to see big muscular guy bit shaking when stepping on the glass with 300 m chasm below but when he took my advice not to look down when stepping but straight forward and jus walk it went well. He even was brave enough to repeat my staple number lying face down on the glass. I’m sure he will make good use on his social media of all those pics I took of him there. On the way to hotel we had a meal in Chinese restaurant on ground floor of Sora hotel by Chong Nonsi and it needs to be said loudly – chicken with cashews , my Thai daily staple was best I had this trip. In the room usual activities flipping through the pages of stamp albums but done way that I sensed he really wants me to be happy and I wanted him to know I consider it big luck I met him in the bar on his first day. Truly a find. Hope to see him again also he mused after he makes enough he will go back to his family in rural Issan. At 9.30pm another meeting with emiel in Foodland to plot night’s sightseeing , our last as tomorrow I’m leaving in the afternoon and he follows me to the airport few hours later. First step -Banana. Another enthusiastic welcome by barkers and mamas an inside, needs to be said after Lucy is gone mood inside is much , much lighter. Half full inside. We got a good seat and first thing I noticed is #31 sitting in the corner. Not just sitting but clearly smiling at me. No, such occasion can’t be missed so I called him over for a drink immediately. It’s my 4th attempt , first when I saw him I had arrangement for that night already so we only had drink and patron nearby was so relieved to learn from mamasan that I won’t be offing him that he took opportunity when I stepped out to the bathroom and snatched the guy. Next two times were identical. He was absent so I settled on another guy, on both occasion the same one by the way . And of course as soon as we sealed the deal who is showing up ? #31 of course. It was a case last trip and also few days ago. His English is very weak so I called mamasan to explain that I will pay off fee now but pick him up past midnight. On google translate we completed rest of business negotiations, long time – yes !, kiss , no, and a fee. Soon emiel and me changed scenery to Fresh Boys. Bar seemed ¾ full . We make our grand entry at best of moments – show was on and number in progress was non-simulated 69. At one point show stopped for boys to have a chance to present themselves on the stage and we both agreed that number 25 is by far the best looking. At the same moment mu phone buzzed. It was message from reader who know we went to Freshboys and asked me if 25 I here as he is favorite of one of our members. It was like he was eavesdropping on us, funny how things happen sometimes. From there we went downstairs to GoodBoys, formerly Screwboys as emiel realized he never went there. Again , only half full . so we got good seats. Mamasan recognized me immediately , she always remembers that One from there was my best boy ever , even if that is story from 2014. I was relieved that my guy I offed last time is sitting with some Japanese and they are quite touchy-feely , otherwise it would be off pressure I guess. When they kissed I knew soon they go out together an it happened indeed. In meantime show in progress and a lot of flesh on display. Emiel liked it there and decided to stay but I , mindful of my obligation, said my goodbyes and returned to Banana to pick up my catch. While I was waiting for him I noticed that my Handsome Cambodian from Dreamboys is sitting there with few Asian girls , we hugged enthusiastically and one of girls commented about HC ‘ he is so cute”. I almost was about to say ‘ wait until he undresses “ but being always modest and well behaved I kept mum. Happy for him to see him happy. Soon my guy and me were on our way to Foodland to get some nourishment and then happily strolled to hotel. Other that clearly avoiding kissing and being gentleman I did not press the issue, he continued my lucky streak of fantastic long time offs this trip. Fact that I found him being ticklish was additional bonus as I like to tease them that way. Funny thing , before I picked him up from bar I commented to somebody congratulating me finally achieving my goal, that while happy I sniff something and that 6th sense did not fail me as at 4 he told me he has visa run in the morning and needs o go at 5. Again I found good side of it and at 5 let him go and I had good sleep till 10 loading my batteries for presumably sleepless night on the plane to follow. Thinking about it I thought he wanted to tell me about whole thing earlier but considering his non-English did not know how to start and it’s why I sensed something. Anyways 5 stars awarded and tip still well deserved and hard worked for. For me sense of achievement that I finally got my boy !

that disadvantage of working in shops without minimum tips as boy's interests are not that well protected. Since boys are still sticking there, my guess will be somehow it evens up in longer terms. We know some customers sometimes can be unreasonably generous. Hopefully manager took boy's side which here I'd not be so sure. When I was working, company usually sided with customer even if complains were unreasonable.

to put it into perspective, one of boys I offed last week told me told me he lives with 6 other boys in highrise near Silom Market , sleeps on the floor and his share of rent is 2300/ month.

of course , being such sophisticated writer, lol

thank you. It's not that Jupiter was unhappy place although I had my measure of bad luck there , specially at old location , where moonlight is now. After that I wizened up and simply stopped offing from there , visiting usually one a trip , on first night to get it over with. Only when one of their guys explained to me that disinterested look is management mandated as it is us who are supposed to chase guys there I got it and noticed that when sitting with customers or met by chance on the street guys are normally friendly. Anyways now it looks that slowly but surely will become a fan and by July 2029 it should become my most favorite bar if all goes well. Looks wise their guys can't be beaten, even not by Moonlight models.

no, it looks that some bars start emptying after midnight, certainly around 1 am you can start hunting as it was shortly after that time when I saw those guys

don't we all ? As for Nicky there was time I'd agree with you but later doctor found a pill that cured it, lol

make it 10 if not 12 . I'm not fan of spending money on accommodation , prefer splurge on boys instead

beauty is in the eyes of beholder

Day 6 We often have discussion here about gay vs straight escorts and I ‘m of firm opinion that straight ones are trying harder because they know they need to perform in order to stay in business. After last night I feel vindicated. Married and father of toddler and still making sure customer is 100 % happy. I upped his tip by a 1000, invited him for a breakfast even if it was almost noon and we settled on afternoon visit to Maha Nakhom tomorrow followed by perusing stamp collection again. Next few hours I took it easy in the room and in the afternoon I went to Saphan Kwai to try one of their shops. I already described my bizarre adventure there in another thread so won’t be boring you with that again– link below . But I repeat, even if bizarre and highly unusual I still enjoyed that experience. https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/39468-massage-shops-on-sutthisan-winitchai-rd/page/19/ - look toward end of page On my way back I decided to see restaurant of A , former bar star but before I reached that place heavens opened with deluge , fortunately when I was passing by another restaurant so I had my dinner there. By time I finished , rain was over. A was not in his place so I returned to Silom civilization. At 9.30 another Foodland meeting with reader and emiel and after we shared recent news emiel and I went to Moonlight , his virgin trip there. Show was about to start but bar was no more than half full so we got good seats with good view for the scene where guys were trying to bring an attention to themselves. Y I was hoping will be there was already gone with customer, few boys I would be interested in somehow did not show the same and those trying to smile at me weren’t ones I was attracted to and after the show we decide to check Hot Male. No customers when we entered but about dozen boys still there beaming smiles in our direction but my hope was that S will be available while he was not present. But we have technology – mamasan texted him I’m in the bar without even asking me if he should and immediately there was message he is coming right now. 500 off fee, no drink and off we went to eat something at Foodland , I’m becoming addicted to their chicken and rice soup. Since emiel was still empty handed I suggested he makes grand tour of the area as after bars close boys are known to eat and drink in various places. Indeed when S and I were going to the room we saw one of Jupiter guys dining alone in Patpong 2 and one of Hot male guys dining in Convent. That one even suggested he will go with us but we declined that generous offer. S is a rock, always great and enthusiastic, quality guaranteed.

Day 5 In the morning unpleasant surprise – no water in the room. Luckily by time I finished breakfast and strolled around the area water returned so I managed to spruce myself up , pack little I had , left luggage on reception and at noon reported at Arena for massage session with Nuk . Muscular veteran there, it’s probably 7 or 8 years since I had my first session with him although he is not that old- started his career there early. Great massage, again with full coverage, he is professional in what he does , that’s sure thing. Than walk to Silom Convent Garden, place I discovered in August located right beside Sauna Mania in soi Phipat. Room a was available , lots of storage space and at least 20 hangers in the closed, microwave , even kitchen utensils but one substantial item absent – safety deposit box. I guess cheap rates mean something. Did some shopping at 7/11 at end of the soi and at 4 pm welcomed N, freelance masseur. Since I was just massaged we resolved to survey stamp collection instead. Great session , it was not our first meeting but today he seemed more active and more clingy than before. Absolute gem so my lucky streak continues. Rest of afternoon and early evening I spent in the room catching with forum , Line and e-mails. E-miel returned from his China trip so we agreed to meet in soi 4 at 9.15 pm . We never meet before. Waiting for him in mouth of soi 4 I was accosted by Vietnamese looking freelancer, handsome face but very skinny. Fortunately as soon as I told him I’m waiting for my boyfriend gentleman beaming smile in my direction showed up and it was emiel indeed. Nice conversation over beer in Banana outside. I was shocked to discover that he never went to Moonlight but somehow we decided to check Jupiter instead. It was Wednesday and at 10 pm Jupiter was surprisingly empty . We got front row seats , usually reserved for visiting big tippers with pussies but for lack of those we got invited to seat there. Moment of arrival was great as first walkabout started soon. I tipped again very hunky performer recommended to me by one of our member and again , the same like few days ago, no acknowledging smile when he was across the scene on other side. I know I should pursue him because of his looks but other half of me says , give yourself a break and save your money. Issue to be solved next trip I guess. Then one of performers looked familiar. I was pretty sure I saw him among crew at Sabaidee Spa in Dec 2021, then one of my friends engaged him and got his Line which he shared with me and we even talk about meeting but couldn’t find agreeable time. Luckily for all those years I kept his Line. Not sure he is the guy , lets call him T , I slipped red note into his hand when he was passing by and few seconds later , when he was on another side of the scene I was rewarded with broad smile , rarity in Jupiter. Then we watched show and when at midnight was time to make moves I decide to invite my guy for a drink. Good sign was , he was clearly happy and reason was explained by mamas an- it was his 1st day in the bar today. Then I pulled my phone , showed him profile in question and yes, he confirmed it’s his. Finally , after 4 years I had chance to hug such dreamed about hunk. Emile in meantime did not waste time and invited one of boys for a drink as well. It needs to be said that at that time, post show , mood in the bar improved , sober , disinterested looks are gone and boys are behaving normally, friendly smiles , clicking glasses etc. Neither emiel nor myself did not waste time, I asked my guy about going with me , he sounded enthusiastic , no wonder , first day and off already, I’d be too. Soon two sets of us left bar. Since I have habit of feeding my overnighters I asked him if he is hungry. He was and modestly suggested Foodland – good sign and there , another good sign , he settled for ordinary rice with vegetables, nothing fancy so bill for two of us was not even 200. It's a bit of walk along Convent to hotel and only there I asked about Long Time , to which he agreed , I’d say matter of-factly. Quoted me hair rising price but still much less than I expected to hear so I agreed as it would be stupid to let such a chance to pass by over 1 or 2 thousands. Great body, great personality, good English, active and patient, I’d even say caring , whatever good can be said about ones off – he ticked all boxes. Even when we waked up and it was 11 am he did not make any move indicating he is in rush to leave like he knew what is my pet peeve. I expected many things in life – to win lottery big , to become famous politician, scientist , movie star, pope and even best street cleaner in whole Bangkok but I never thought I will live long enough to say that my best off of the whole trip will be from Jupiter. It was never even close possibility but here I am !

I was called worse things by better people , lol

Does model Nicky from Moonlight know?

Right. I want to stay in new Dusit Thani again. Never stay there but already wanted to once

while you are right about reception area at Best , room while not shiny was clean and comfortable. It will be good looking guy , not squeaky massage table which will be massaging you after all

thank you very much. You right about emotional comfort. Trip was great idea and I'm happy I made it but I may sound more cheerful than I in fact I was . Doesn't make any sense to reflect my sense of loss into trip reports but even few boys noticed that I'm bit' different ' this time and to their credit reacted as they should trying to be more comforting. Previous trip was one to forget

reasonable but costly method considering admission is 5500 and drink at bar is 500.

Day 4 Being right in the middle of Silom Plaza it would be shame not to utilize both Best and Arena massages. I had good sleep after HC left and barely made on time for hotel provided breakfast – the same like American in Foodland plus small tray of fruits. Theirs is guy in Best massage recommended to me by one of our members and worth the trouble going by the look – I met both of them few days ago in Foodland so early afternoon I crossed the plaza , asked for him and lady on reception was clearly not knowing who I’m talking about. I was perplexed but what we have Line for? Lined member , he made his inquiry with the guy and it turned out he goes by different nick in the shop that his name we both know. Armed with that knowledge I went back, asked for Frank and we all were home. Great skills and actually it helped as today I was in need to good , proper rub and one of smoothest guys I ever met. Members recommendations usually work and this one worked big time plus ! . In the afternoon I had urge to sample pizza and when it’s pizza it must be from Madrid Café in Charoen Krung soi 49 , formerly Madrid Tavern from Patpong . Decide to go by bus and while standing on the bus stop I saw our member anddy passing by on motorbike. Go figure – rush hour on very busy street and you see familiar face. So I pulled phone and Lined him about my immediate plans hoping that he will see message soon. Indeed , as soon as I sat down in Madrid – I don’t place orders there because we have ritual there: ‘usual?” , ‘yes” which places Chang , no glass – as proletarian I drink from the bottle , on my table and cherry tomato and shallots pizza lands in the oven, my phone showed message ‘ I’m on my way . Soon we were greeting each other and had as usual a great chat over the meal. He was kind to drop me at Silom Plaza and after having a tea in the room I decided to break usual rules of not having massage after the meal and took stairs to Arena. There was quite handsome guy talking on the phone outside but he entered in just after me and it was good move. Art, the captain greeted me with open arms as always. There were about dozen guys of usual Arena quality, all smiling and pointing at themselves. All muscle and testosterone but I decided to go with that new guy who sexily lifted his shirt to show sexy sixpack, not that anybody there lacks in that department. So Chai it was. There’s old saying first quoted by Herodotus ( or was it Tacitus ?) “Arena never disappoints “ and it proven gain for 1726th time . What massage by Chai stood out was coverage . No part of my carcass was unmassaged, literally from toe to head. What a find ! Specially that for some reason as I mused above for some reason today I was in need to really good massage. I think tension of previous week and all those flights made me feeling cramped. It turned out that he finishes his shift now so I invited him for a dinner right after but before we left I wanted secure massage for tomorrow noon. Reason was I’m changing hotels so need somehow to spend productively those 3 hours between 12 and 3. Captain told me they open at 1 but out of blue Nuk , whom I did not see before appeared and said “ will come at 12”. One can’t to better than that !. Inquiring minds may ask ‘ why didn’t you ask Chai?” but tomorrow was his day off which I knew beforehand. Soon Chai joined me for a meal on ground floor and we parted our ways. After having two proper and complete massages today I felt quite energized so around 11 pm I decided to see if S will be available at Hot Male but he was already taken so I moved to Banana. Bar was packed but they found me a seat and soon somebody seating beside moved out so I invited two boys seating in shadows nearby to join me for a drink. One of them I already offed twice on previous trips , another one was new and happen to be very clingy. I did not plan to take anybody tonight, after all I had plenty of daytime fun but gin, separated from tonic worked it’s way to my head and I decide to go with known quality , tipped other guy 300 for his time and soon off we went to my room. Can’t say it entirely worked as intended, perhaps penalty for dumping other, clingy guy ? It was clear from beginning he wants to do a deed , cash and go. Even skipped shower part. No he did not smell or anything so fun part was missing , not hygienic thanks God , otherwise we would have a scene. It was not that bad but he made whole experience very utilitarian so we had our utilitarian fun, I did no make any attempt to keep him longer, he did not suggested it either. Cash and go type of fun. Strangely it reminded me off of Tum, now model at Moonlight from short lived Boy66 bar at the same location back in Sept 2017. It was exactly the same , I still remember his words ”I make you happy and go” . But after such great and fun filled day I could use some decent sleep so just chalked it off and went asleep fortified in a knowledge that one more guy was removed from the list of future engagements. Classic , known to science, case of boys who on subsequent offs feel too comfortable to care much about their customer.

just keep quiet, you know I like big boys so you don't want to run into trouble, he, he.

unfortunately for me it was just two guys on display but since they organized exactly guy I was hoping to see, no complains here