vinapu

confirmed by my personal experience three weeks ago

all this information is already available on this board and you will have a lot of fun looking for it

that's novelty for me, I just used that lane 3 weeks ago using my grey hair advantage

first go to a church and pray that when you will be in Thailand he still will be on the scene. Some boys stay on and on, even well past 'best before ' date while others disappear as fast as they showed up. What I learned over the years is never expect guy I lose my sleep over to be available while I will be there, sometimes they are gone for good , sometimes they just happen to visit their mom when I'm in Bangkok, at other times still they are present but monopolized solid by temporary " boyfriend"

sure bet. I was thinking about next trip while in the taxi to the airport as I felt my vacation time this trip was bit of underutilized and that is reason for my reservation about this one.

indeed although it was kind of easy and we visited his bar three nights in row, each night took home respective companions and our rooms in The Classroom were adjacent

thank you , generous and kind but also calculated and self-serving as that way I secured boy I liked for all nights without off fees etc. Unfortunately it did not work quite as I envisioned.

+1, for two reasons, first they don't squander day hours on sleeping or watching idiocies on their smartphone, second they built up an opportunity for post go-go stage of their lives, even if that another job is in massage place . I have personal story to support what I just said - for about 10 years I was keeping part time job just for fun of it (yes when you young you may have fun working , lol). When I lost my full time position , my part time was easily converted to full time and kept me running till retirement at 68.5

nothing to spit on, it will buy you breakfast at Foodland

Others responded already but yes , I always carry cash and resort to ATM only if I'm running out of it. Cash gives slightly better rate and in can be exchanges as I need it in small 100-300 $ chunks while cash withdrawal from ATM makes only sense if 20000-25000 is taken out at one due to mentioned 220baht fee, not to mention my bank charges me 5$ foreign exchange fee as well and rate of exchange is bit worse. In short , as long as I'm concerned, cash is the king

Day 2 From today I’m on my original schedule and It was day of move to Pattaya. Hope was to catch a glimpse of half legendary dancer Max of The Best Bar who is supposed to perform there tomorrow and after tomorrow hence this part of trip I call Maxhunt. In the morning I messaged CB asking about absence last night. It turned out he was still at home but offered to come to Bangkok as soon as today if I let him to stay with me because he no longer has his room. I agreed but told him that I’m heading to Pattaya and advised him to come in 3 days. I had enough sense to secure some freedom and told him if I will bring another boy he must stay out of room for a period. He agreed and it looked we both are happy with that arrangement. I secured guy for Bangkok nights and was hoping that he utilize free accommodation to work at bar and get some more money during his 7 day visa validity. Breakfast at Foodland with reader from forum , we exchanged recent news and gossips , then I sorted my stuff in the room and left some goodies in deposit as I will be returning to the Raya. Then off to the airport to catch the bus. I had reservation made at home but low season showed, at 11.45 there were still tickets available for 12.00 noon. But bus departed full so I guess somebody got lucky at the last minute. Second time in row I opted to mid-way and stay in Zing hotel on main street , half way between Jomtien and Pattaya proper. What was even better , it was free as I had some miles expiring at end of month and decided to utilize them that way. Breakfast at 189 per person was to be paid separately. I dumped my stuff and went to Jomtien Complex to meet friend who used to post here as z909 few years ago, It was his last day so we talked about 1 hr and then parted ways. In the evening I went to Boyztown, first dinner in Bay View restaurant on Beach Rd then parked myself at Pikky over beer and watched goings in the soi. Sadly not much was going on. Only two freelance masseurs on duty, one of them I noticed gained some weight since I saw him last year. I saw boys from BBB going in but must say, only few impressed me to a degree. Mamasan Lek spotted me and beamed smile but this time I decided to continue boycott of that bar I once considered best in whole Thailand as 1050 off fee and stage filled with boys fully dressed coupled with smoking inside and deafening music is bot exactly what I like. At 10 p.m. I moved to Dreamboys , hoping at least one of two boys I met there last year will be there. And yes, sun shined on me, #37 was in the back of the stage . He was kind of confused at first why that old troll is smiling at him but after 5 seconds he beamed smile my way and I made gesture inviting him to sit beside. Not only he recalled me and hotel where we met 3 times but immediately asked ‘ where is your Asian friend in glasses “ ? clearly remembering I was with 18past19 then . Deal was sealed with disclaimer that I pick him up but after I see show in XBoys. Not sure who was first suggesting he may go with me to which I agreed and we crossed the soi and entered XBoys exactly in the moment of insertion in progressive part of 10 pm show. Speaking about timing ! We got seats in the first row in front on the scene and enjoyed what we saw. He told me he never saw that show and judging by his reactions he did not make it up. After main show finished with another progressive part included with the same bottom but different top, at midnight we took two motorsais and went to hotel to do our part of progressive life. Looking back , it was one of best moments of that trip. We agreed for repeat tomorrow after he finished his daytime job and before he will go to the bar.

since HE told me he will be working in the bar for a week from 14th on I took it for face value

not only in Thailand, happens everywhere. Dealing with similar cases in last 33 years of my working life before I retired, long ago I started saying to all who listen that wills should be mandatory for all after certain age, say 65 ( I get that in case above there was a will but obviously neglected to be updated ).

that may create problem for digitally excluded being on the road already. Where to print it in times when internet cafes are all extinct ? For some reason I can't access my e-mail on my Huawei tablet , it's why carry both that and smartphone but can see why some seniors are dropping travel altogether or taking organized trips only.

my first bar was Up To You where Take -a Nap hostel later was on Rama IV. I recall place fondly as mamasan seeing I'm new to the scene took charge , told me : ' take this boy, he will know where short rooms are " and it's how all started. Saying that I must say still I'm more interested in my next trip than 39 past ones.

my paternal grandmother saw hers when I was boy , almost everything was matching, first and last name, local cemetery and month and year of birth, only day was different but by few days only . According to popular superstition she was to live long life but she died at 76.

no,Body Club was in different location, it was Uniman in Korea Town

I even bothered to visit them in their new location far down the BTS line but was mildly impressed and never returned

really ? I fail to see relation

its not how I operate

all my fault for coming 3 days later than originally planned. But as I said , life intervened.

and did they took that offer ?

Don’t believe that dramatic tittle of the report. Yes, it was not one of best and memorable trips but still , when comes to boys, it brought plenty of fine moments. Still it did not work as planned and envisioned, partially because life intervened, partially because I made hasty decision so my sentiment reflected in the tittle about that trip is accurate. Original plane was 4 nights in Bangkok , followed by three in Pattaya, carefully chosen to coincide with show at The Best Bar in Jomtien as part of Maxhunt ( more about that in relevant part ) and then 6 days in Bangkok again. Then life happened, owing to family matters I was forced, or to be more accurate, I had chosen to be forced to cancel my original ticket. Since it was low cost non-refundable one and I never buy trip cancellation insurance, it meant I threw 700 USD it originally cost to the dust bin. They were other related costs amounting to roughly the same , before I stepped out of plane in Bangkok, three day later than planned, I lost about 1400 $. No wonder I’m glad it’s over. Still , mind you I opted for that misery and I’m glad I did. Life, sigh. Then before I even left home I noticed that one of my boys, lets call him Cambodian Boy (CB), changed his Line avatar to something teary. So out of curiosity I asked him if all is ok. It was not as he explained. Due to border dispute between Thailand and Cambodia he was forced to leave his bar job , returned home but told me he will come on 14 to utilize his 7 day visa, all currently available. I did not spill the beans that I should be in Bangkok for part of his time there but I knew that first bar I visit will be Moonlight hoping for that big smile of surprise. Anyways after all those tribulation , instead of Sunday I landed in Bangkok on Wednesday after having extremely pleasant last leg from Doha with all three seats in my row at my disposal. Day1 Landed early afternoon which is the best time as removes all problems with early check in in hotel and allows to change money at best places. Immigration was a breeze this time , 5 minutes and I was out. Speaking about changing money, in the basement by railway station I got 37.10 for euro, and assumption that it was the best rate lasted only until arrival at Phaya Thai station. Immediately after one leaves paid area there are two booths and one offered 37.28 and next one even 37.30. That rate , by the way was matched by XOne hour or two later. My original plan was to stay in Baan Silom but since my 4 night shrunk to one I went for Raya. Owing to low season that had very friendly rates. Settling there I went to post office as had something to mail , then to XOne to change more money and finally to Foodland for my first chicken with cashews – sadly , this time very average. I love that first day there when I’m settling for promising trip buying necessities and checking what is new. Building rising out of soi Twilight ashes is almost completed , that was big and tall new thing. At 8 p.m. I parked myself in front of Banana Club , soon joined for a beer by one of their guys but since he is diminutive guy I was plain social occasion. Still gave him 2 reds for his company by way of patented ‘vinapu tuck”. Then he went inside and I strolled through both Patpongs , in Patpong 2 enthusiastically welcomed buy some guys knowing me from better times. I was tempted to enter Atlas as boys on the stage were in pure and tempting view but one of them spotted me , went down from the stage and immediately lowered his briefs asking for a tip ”for food”. That was bit too fast so I politely explained I just arrived and did not have a chance to change money and declined invitation by boss himself to step inside. At that moment I was not even sure I will go inside that trip at all. I don’t mind spreading money but such antics were too fast moving for my taste. At 10pm. I went to Moonlight and this is what I reported in “Patpong” thread on that day : “I was customer #6 . When show started at 10.30 grand total 12 customers. 10 models, Mean returned but Babe not present. New guy Joey with broad smile quite impressive. About 8 floor boys but regretfully none of two I was hoping to see. At least 3 boys offed including both Lao brothers and guy taken by one who took over Vinapu's account.” . I was disappointed I did not see neither CB nor Y but at least M I offed twice in winter was on the stage and just before I was about to leave bar I motioned him to dress bypassing mamasan who use to leech to me from minute on I show in. It must be dearth of clients because even one of their models I had pleasure with before come to shake hands and exclaim ‘ long time no see you “. Light dinner in Happy Beer Garden and soon M and I were in my room . M is not long time material and I did not expect him to stay past normal short time but low season kicked in and it was already 5 am when he suggested he will go home. Nice surprise for start of trip earning him extra 1000 in the process.

Your husband is right , no need to re-open all wounds looking for apology which may or may not come and if it does it may or may not be sincere

yes, mamasan will know but there's one person who will know even better - boy himself. Some of them would say ' no' in the venue ( face) but when you are with him in more private setting they may change a mind.