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You right that standing and staring at them would fee awkward then don't do that. There are two ways of doing that: 1/ walk slowly past the shop and if your chosen one is occupied with his phone or whatever just keep going another 100-200 metres , turn back and repeat. If he is still on his phone pat him gently (not on the head as it may be taken as offensive) and when he raises his head just motion to go inside or 2/ just do underscored part right away without bothering with walk and return theatre Few warnings a/ don't feel guilty about choosing whoever you prefer . It's nature of their job and they are used to it b/ don't be surprised if you chosen boy raises he head showing face and it turns out that he is not necessarily one you would choose if you saw him like that in first place . By now you are stuck with him but take a heart, often guys lacking in looks department compensate with skills and manly attributes. In old Freshboys in soi twilight there was older guy who looked outright ugly. That changed drastically when you took him home and he took off his undies c/ at end of day, after 37 trips to Thailand I may say that with certainty - if you engage buy who is not paying attention to you , you are taking chances it will not work as you envisioned. I call it "smile rule" - off or have massage only with guy who smiled at me or at minimum , made lasting eye contact. If he is visibly avoiding it, move on. Exceptions apply but rarely hope it helped

Day when we will use some QR code to transfer money from our phone to boy's is likely coming. I wonder what will happen after somebody somewhere will report that upon returning to his country or even as early as departing Thailand he will be questioned about such payment made at known and flagged venue. Or called to police station for questioning about such payment. There are countries when prostitution per se is legal but engaging services of prostitute or paying for sexual services is not and you may be informed that your country is charging for such offences even if made in countries where it's legal. For AI connecting such dots may be trivial job. So yes, your warning is timely one

there's no thing like real thing so that conversion would be akin to replacing warn bar boy with cold , AI generated pictured. I settle for first option I think. No problem creation such coin and using it but keep in mind that it does not create any additional value, just another name for same old. It's sugar which makes tea sweet , not stirring it

no truer words were ever written here. Since it was on open waters quite possibly it could be legally qualified as piracy

count me in

From my own experience and what I hear from others when comes to compensating boy for travel it's free run all over the place, from guys making very demanding requests all the way down to asking only to pay off fee to the bar and expenses on the tour, which goes without saying. I think Tiny Lao summarized it above the best - getting away from the work and getting paid for that. Expectations and requests may vary depending who initiates an idea, us or boy. If it's his , request may be tempered by that fact , if we want him to go , he may shrewdly milk the situation. I suspect guy like an idea of travelling as it's not an opportunity awarded to them often and may be very reasonable in their expectancies. I liked proposal Pattaya boy made when he suggested I take him to Bangkok for few days: off fee , expenses plus 1000 spending money per day and 3000 per night but only if we sleep together ( he wanted trip that badly that he suggested if I bring other boy he will sleep on the floor, I ended renting cheap room for him in nearby hotel but it was needed only for one night). If somebody asks me what I consider fair for trip of at least 3 days - Long Time fee minus 1000 per day as long-term discount plus of course expenses and off fee. ................. Of course I remember Tiny Lao , every time I pass by he suggests I have drink at his bar and lowers his pants suggesting I place tip there which I usually do. Nice and enthusiastic guy but unfortunately way too diminutive for me to take him home. Because of his tiny frame I'd feel like sleeping with the child even if he must be 30 if not better. ................... Donald is duck name but both American president elect and Polish prime minister both carry it so I guess Nam can be Lao. It's how he introduced himself as "Nam" and it was conformed by another guy who went with us.

Move to next one, never try to throw money at the problem as it must be more than money which is needed. At times boy in question doesn't even know what he wants. If money were only issue , boy simply would ask for more

I read all exchange above with great interest and dose of amazement, only because I found it fascinating how much is going in bar which is usually last on my list to visit ( I made point of visiting every bar at least once every trip) and almost never off from. But I haste to say I know why 25 is so popular as on my last visit he positively stood out not only in my eyes but also in forum member's I was with. It's good we all are able to find our sweet corner among Patpong bars

I'd not assume anything but it would confirm what I heard from boys as well as from local "girl" here where I live - sex has many forms and not all involve intercourse. Hence recent popularity if 'side' position on apps. Girl was the best saying that customer often complain about how bad their wives are that they forget to f***k her and laughed so not sure to what degree she was sincere but i suspect to a great one. Last trip I went to bar hoping guy will be available, He was not , sitting already with customer who was nice enough to let him to come and shake hands with me. And whisper " I see you tonight ". ??????? I thought but went for bar tour only to receive message after perhaps 1 .5 hr " where you are , I'm coming". All client wanted was to get blown by him , did not even care if he hardens or cums , " 1500 of easy money and not first time with him" he said. Certain idiot from this forum carries his stamp collection and offs boys just to see it.

that would made said boy even more bold in his demands , even if bathroom was dirty indeed Id ask to clean but only after boy departed.

what happened to him? got a girl and disappeared ?

massages?

they must be still wondering when you are coming

agree, I was dining there with Gaybutton and his friend few years ago and food was authentic indeed

most likely it will not apply to ASEANs and if it does , they know their ways how to cross border either way

for that money who wouldn't ?

No wonder he was as it amounts to 5000 a day , long time rate plus obviously you had costs of feeding and entertaining him through that week . I think you were very generous but I have feeling I know who that guy was and I'm not surprised you were happy with company.

Was it Nam #10 ? ( no need to answer I'm just being nosy)

Enjoy while it lasts. No offense taken, rest assured. I'm not a Trump with fragile ego.

I use only free version, that's secret of Grindr popularity in my pocket

....but cute

if ETA will speed going through immigration I'm all for it. Cambodian one is very simple to apply so nothing to worry much. as for 300 fee it looks that it's too much hair splitting over issue. Of course it's impossible to decide who is tourist (i.e. British guy coming to Thailand to visit his mother married to Thai who will spend most of his time just travelling around -tourist or family visit and so on ) so either it will be collected from all arrivals with exception of Thai citizens and permanent residents or resulting mess will be making more harm than good. My prediction- nothing comes out of it

Don't read to much from one night occurrence , perhaps he just did not get offs on the night Min was there, Even most popular guys have weaker days in business ( and serial whorers go home alone to face cold bed from time to time ). I always remember surreal night at Moonlight at times when Babe was outshining other models by far when everybody got 1000 baht garland with single exception of him.

of course, sometimes we need more spices in our regular dish. I think adding few twinks helps to broaden bar appeal to wider clientele. Sometimes I wonder whet if in Patpong we had bar featuring offable both guys and girls

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