vinapu

what this is supposed to mean ? Isn't America great already for 100+ years ? (that bourbon isn't that great by the way)

at least you have clean beaches and world class entertainment

hope is was not an Office for Human Trafficking Control

certainly not from the state which locks 16 y.o. for anti-state activities, not to mention kills own , deemed wayward , citizens in penal colonies, shoots them on the bridges or arranges helicopter crashes

+1

this is exactly what I wanted to write but you were 8 hours faster, lol I agree with reasoning of what all three of you expressed above, but considering, at end of day, transactional nature of our dealings with boys I sympathise with jason's reasoning more and I do the same. We are not there to raise boy's status in the bar although it's nice if that happens as additional result our our actions. We are there to raise boys earnings in exchange for what they do (or don't do) for us. Raising boys status by buying drinks to him and his 4 friends may be nice but is costs 2500 , out of that boys get 500 and bar 2000. That is not good use of our money , either hard earned or stolen from bank IMNSHO. Buying 1000 garland out of which boy gets 700 is show off and helps to rise his status but again it's not good use or our money IMEMNSHO. I get value of status and jai dee in boys eyes but when comes to money I prefer to be paternalistic and I rather see boy, not bar , getting cash from me . Then he can do whatever he wants to raise his status. Of course other members may look at it differently so hope Raposa is not taking my comment as uninvited criticism for him buying garland at Moonlight but it that was me I would perform patented vinapu tuck on boy stuffing 1000 baht note in his undies in a way that all could see denomination sticking out. It reminds me scene from last trip in one of bars I visited with other member. He paid for our drinks and got 100 baht change , most in coins. Shrewd move by the bar because of course he left them all that change - he did not want all that metal. As reward he got scolded by me and I'm not being apologetic here . I told him such lavish tips should be awarded to boys who are parading in skimpy briefs for our enjoyment, not to waiter for just a bringing a drink or two for which 20 baht is sufficient IMNSHO considering we tip 100 boy whose cock we can feel in our hand when they are parading after the show

you mean 41 not 21 ? right ?

no, we don't in most cases indeed. Still nothing there explains wanton disregard to agreed terms of service I described in my Aug 2024 trip report. Human trafficking can't e blamed for guy promising to meet at at 3 pm and at 5pm cheerfully sending Line " sorry, I slept in " or one asking to toilet break , taking his phone with him and after 1/2 hr there announcing ' my brother called me , I must go now ' and accepting 2500 reduction in agreed tip

you are and still are flying there?

secret crush and jealousy , potent blend

Valid point indeed. Being turned down for LT or even an off is Ok as it may be another factors then money involved as long as it's done in advance . That I understand unless explanation borders on idiotic like " I need to do laundry tonight " ( really, in May, then 2 days later plead for money claiming he did not eat for 2 days forgetting that next night we had that long time and it was well compensated ). But way too often terms of service are not kept and my pet peeve is not even anything demanding - it just expectancy to stick to time agreed. There's nothing left to interpretation to " 2 hours" or " morning till breakfast" or '' our massage session was paid for 1.50 hr. ". So indeed, at times I find myself feeling no sympathy for their real or perceived plight. Sad but true and I don't think it's my fault.

Hopes that old/ new occupant of Oval Ofice will be much of difference may prove to be misplaced. For all of his myriad flaws he is still product of Western democracy , however tainted and on personal level - doesn't like to be on losing side.

that is how system of power in dictatorship works, anybody who is dissenting to any degree becomes enemy to be destroyed, jailed or placed in mental institution.

tea with polonium treatment

and even if they want due to expanding waist lines they may find it's hard for them to keep gainful employment in this sector of tourist industry

I did not read " Poseidon is cheap" as demeaning , quite opposite, but for me Poseidon , in comparison to other hotels available in Complex, is on expensive side and due to that factor I never stay there. It's why I assumed you are blessed with good job

more popular Colombia become , more commercial scene will be . It's how market works

that's the problem , that 7500 may or may not be truth. We both know very well how statistics over there are done, if Moscow orders that in 2025 crime in Novosibirsk must drop by 30% , it will go down by 31.13 %. On paper of course . So while I agree that my earlier statement was false, invented for discussion purpose, in cold reality neither you nor me have reliable numbers of those. It may be that I underestimated it

You can and you will

no idea how those numbers were calculated. 10 offs even at 5000 a pop is 5000 i.e. 1450 $. I venture to say not many boys have that many offs although some certainly do. And 5000 tips are not that common either, certainly not 10 times in row. The same goes with all those trips and 5 stars, these are more exception then rule and none of those trips and fine bedding pays boys bills and get sent to old folks at home . I agree that most do better than peers working at menial jobs but it says not much. At end of day unless we sit in boys wallet we can only estimate their earnings but I doubt there's reason to be jealous about their earning potential. once I offed D from Tawan , one who moonlighted as motorsai driver during day. When he was getting dressed to go another boy K told me it's D's first off in three months. As he was very passionate in the room I sensed it must be truth.

rich people it seems have their own unique set of problems

about the same number like in Moscow and Ryazan alone by latest estimation

we know you are gentleman and a scholar but in my opinion you did right thing by NOT approaching that hunky guy ( yes , he left the scene and now owns a restaurant but it looks it's still engaging his old customers from time to time ) sitting with other person. One never knows how either guy or his companion may react so unless guy in question makes some kind of eye contact or motion it's better pretend you are complete stranger. Theoretically that farang he was sitting with could be somebody who doesn't know guy's past. You should leave waiter and Korean alone too. I'm sensitive to the issue as once I spotted one of my guys walking Silom on 'wrong ' side with other Asian and it was clear by his face expression I should pretend of not knowing him. What it turned out , that' customer' was his visiting Cambodian relative content to know that my guy has some warehouse job, which was and still is true but not whole truth. Also one of Tawan boys who at the time landed nice sponsor and left the scene entirely , when we met by chance on BTS it was quite clear, even if he was travelling alone , that he doesn't know me anymore .He knows me again now, lol Ever since when I see face familiar from the scene, either boy or forum member I'm waiting for a sign they noticed me at the least. It would be nightmarish if I'm sitting in some restaurant with my friend who happens to be in Bangkok at the same time and some forum friend comes , pats me on the back and asks " how was boy you took last night from Hot Male?"

you don't want Moses to land in jail, specially Russian one , do you ?

Great report , thank you very much for taking time wo write and illustrate it with pictures. Fully agree with your assessment of show at XBoys, sexiest of them all. One piece of advice - if future , and we know it will be future, try to divide report in shorter section. It makes easier to read and also for reference and quotes. Calling Poseidon hotel 'cheap ' tell us you are not exactly working for a minimum wage , congratulation on that. Glad you liked all Thailand's charms, nothing wrong with Lao boys being first couple, for me Lao boys never disappoint.