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you not alone

I wonder if he did the same to the boys

Guys in more business oriented places, where decorum is less observed, like Senso , Prince , Arena , Jey and even in some Saphan Kwai places start massage in the nude or shed clothes very early in the session .

ask if they have hot tea or coffee, some bars may have it and often it's what I order if i feel overdrinked already after bar hopping

I'd like to meet Lucy, skeleton of who I saw in Ethiopian National Museum and ask her if she thinks , Abiy, Ethiopian prime minister really deserved Nobel Peace Prize

my favorite BS story is from last June, already in my trip report. I picked up guy from Dreamboys and he wanted to see show at Jupiter so off we went there. When we were leaving, bar wanted me to pay off fee for him, reasoning being that he used to work there at some time in the past . My first and only case like that even if I went to various bars with various boys many times before.

market economy at work. we have three choices ; skip, negotiate or pay up and go for it. None better or more advisable than other. But if you found 1500 guy and you like him, then you are well set for more encounters with him. It seems high season is about to start so boys may be more keen on sticking to higher prices, at least until bar is opened. After 1 am, different calculation may apply.

I think you are spot on. If boy knew there's charge for overstaying he would mention it right away. no reason to be annoyed if Vessey is right. If it was me , I'd pay up but cross both boy and venue from my sightseeing list

they have boyfriends or husbands and know it very well

Sad news arrived from Vietnam. One of Jupiter boys was attending friends wedding and on his way back died in motorbike accident. May he rest in peace.

trying to talk boy to reduce his tip from 1000 to 700 is scroogy, trying to talk him to discount from 1500 to 1200 is market research. When you try to reduce to 2000 from asked 3500 is pointing to market reality and when you try to reduce 10000 tip to 5000 is just attempt to talk sense to him ( although in any of cases above boy may know better ). We know what we are paying but boys know what they are getting.

indeed , that was what I was told as well by somebody in the know. And as always , if tip stated by venue or mamasan seems too steep it's always advisable to talk quietly to the boy in question

with 40 trips there are precious few interesting temples in Bangkok I did not visit yet

Welcome home ! and thank you for treating us with what we were waiting for for a while - full , step by step, trip report

more of this and soon Bangkok will be just place to change planes for guys going for vacations in Vietnam or Cambodia . Already combing for fun Grindr in Siem Reap or Phnom Penh I see avatars familiar from Thailand

while I like idrea of private dances I hope no bar will follow this pricing . 2 or 3 dances at 500-600 as suggested amounts to 1000-1800 baht for 20-30 minutes of semi or 3/4 fun. It doesn't compare well with 1500-2500 ST tip IMNSHO

I don't know about the others but I offed quite a few very decent guys from Banana bar

my impression from narrative above is : you are buying too much stuff, leading to described waste. Maple syrup in the fridge ? That's novelty for me

thank you, approved

my apologies for defamation

you must be my long lost twin brother

but actors still can get one. After all Churchill, politician got Nobel prize for literature, no ?

this is exactly what makes Russia cannibalistic state - pushing own people out for thay can avoid being eaten alive by their own country

shame on the public then. Those are descendants of public which cried after Stalin died even if they knew their relatives perished in Gulags. They are millions of decent people in Russia , they are just silenced, as always , by their oppressive state

this I can easily imagine