vinapu

That is good news and thank you for clarifying this for us. Still my concern is not how I will pay but where money for that payment will come from. Tea is not getting sweeter just because is stirred.

+1

Not quite as I do it every time I notice boy takes his, phone with him and last time I checked I was very much alive. If he laughed at me then certainly I'd be waiting, fully dressed, for him to hand him his tip and open door wide inviting him to check corridor.

It may be touch call this time as I know already I will be very busy at home for at least two weeks after return. But I'm not saying no

Even Hunchback of Notre Dame had his taker

No cofee this morning?

Not quite truth since you visited thread and commented on it. Me same same, almost zero interest but almost is key word.

Reading few recent reports I have feeling that I was is some bars last weekend exactly at the same time some other members were. On Sunday I visited Freshboys first. Arrived just as show started. Bar was full, actually they asked some customers to move over to create first row room for senior citizen I. E. me. As usual tipped best looking guy just for looking pretty and my taste was confirmed as almost immediately he was called over by some farang and soon enough they both marched out. I was thrilled few good looking guys were trying quite hard to draw my attention. But I had other plans/ hopes so left with show still going out. Arrived at Jupiter at 11. Again bar full and I got some seat to the right of the stage. Not great to seat but with great view of changing room across. In Jupiter I always enjoyed being unknown as I neither patronize them often ( usually once per trip) and rarely off from there. This was naive as soon one of mamasan appeared with his phone, showed me Line profile of 18past19, our member I usually go there with if we happen to be in Bangkok at the same time ND asked whe my friend is coming. So obviously he connected dots we'll. So I'm not that anonymous there it seems. It seemed to work this time as his next question was whom I like and I told him. He made some laser movements and soon told me guy will come to seat with me after he will be done with show. So finally I nailed my guy I tried to bring attention to myself before in vain. Nice sense of achievement. It worked surprisingly well, chiefly because I preemptive some discussion by telling him his name and where he is from which surprised him a lot but in nice and thrilling way. Fact that he agreed for long time improved experience even more. Great encounter, much better than expected as I expected some primadonna behaviour but no, nothing like this. Obviously he knows on which tree money grows and made sure I'm happy. Only thing which may keep me from repeat was tip asked for but that is issue for future trip in November of 2032 or later this year, whatever will come first. Soi it looks my lucky streak at Jupiter continues. On Monday it was time for Goodboys. At 10 pm bar was pretty empty but show was going on. One of Viet brothers working there imedistely recognized me from my visit with ichigo at Atlas last weekend. Seems he likes, at Goodboys better. Feeling amorous and charitable after conquering K2 last night I invited him for a drink and warned him I won't off him tonight. Nevertheless he made sure I was properly entertained and I made sure he was properly compensated for his truobles. At 11 moved to Moonlight. Shockingly empty. Only 9 customers for the show time ! There were more waiters, and mamasans. And not many guys either. One I was looking for, Y, was absent and so was, recently discussed number 10. It must be some desperation for business as both guys I had sitting with me last weekend approached me, Tawan style asking how I am. And so did Nut, one of their models. Even Babe for the first time smiled and waved at me, no doubt because I tipped him 100 baht during dancing routine. So bar seems to be in trouble but I can't explain why. Guys are great looking as, always and show, while not flashy is still decent, it's boy bar not La Scala after all. Since my resolve of not going home without offing Y, Mamasan offered to call him and he confirmed his arrival soon enough. So second night in row great guy perusing my stamp collection. Not a bad for otherwise celibate trip.

Best dog is hot dog. I, as one of those dinners confirm reader's story. It was actually very funny. Cat sensed he will be witness of some fun as he took his position on one of chairs as soon as I arrived being first of us four dining together.

If boy says he needs to go to toilet I pay attention if he is taking his phone. If he does, invariably I tell him he doesn't need it there.

I don't think failure to generate response to a telephone number slipped with tip has, anything to do with #10 or any number. Simply it's European thing and it is not not how things are done in Thailand. Just a guess but boys may find it weird. There's another issue which may play. Boys may read intention very well but feel that an attempt to avoid paying off fee is not fair to the bar or mamasan and don't want be part of it. They may be grateful for opportunity bar gave them by hiring, they may be morally or financially indebted to Mamasan or simply they are afraid that if news seeps out their bar standing may be diminished. Again it's my guess although not entirely - Y, my semi regular often mentioned in my reports always asks me to pay off fee even if we met during day and quotes loyalty to bar reason. Only exception were few occasions when bar was closed or he was not scheduled to work on given day

Are you sure you would be happy if your pics kissing or fondling guy in bar appeared somewhere on social media?

I'm wondering if all that was decorum to create pretext to check the latest on their media, they could miss their friends, after 20 minutes of not chatting. That brings bit of sensitive hygienic issue. I my opinion just hosing down is not enough and few times I actually asked them to take proper, soaped shower. While I understand call of nature I consider breaks of such nature during massages and short time sessions bad manners and usually have 2nd thought about repeating.

Sadly I'm in Vietnam till Saturday

Indeed it seems thet tips are all over the place. Some boys are restraining themselves, others are trying waaay too hard to extract every last penny. But at end of day what counts is not money spent but how happy we are left after encounter. I know Nut from Maha for a while and like him a lot, talkative indeed but very well muscled for such diminutive guy. Great report roughjock. As for swearing not to return to Jupiter I did it at least 3 times in my life and yet returned every trip at least once, lol. I guess is nice to have a bar where everybody on the stage is good looking. We're you there on Saturday? If yes we saw each other unknowingly.

I m glad you were penalized for trying to be too upcale. It would never cross my mind to try such humble dish in upscale establishment. And no, no offense is taken whe somebody doesn't like my favorite dish which by the way has tendency to taste differently from venue to venue.

It would be nice to hear your impressions from there

Again, whole Vegas thingy

On and off, quite a few celibate nights though. Strange feeling , like snow in August

Surprisingly perhpas I'm two weeks here already and most nights slept with just opened window.

In my case attempt was by mamasan

You could use ample dose of better manners as calling forum member names is not what we need here. If this thread is wake up call is about wake up that shit stirrers are still present and active.

In one of my trip reports I praised boy but indicated that even if great I will not off him again. Inquiring mind asked me by PM why such contradiction. Answer, again by PM was he peed in the shower when we were showering together. It was conveyed to the boy by his bar friend. How did he know?

How come? I'd expect better from you

Motivation may be pure and clean but as I just say I another post, we should keep our opinions in the forum or convey directly to boy in question, not to voice them back to boys by third party. Honestly, the same way we consider some guys unattractive for reason of look, boys may think the same about us and act on it even forfeiting revenue specially if replacing that stream may be relatively easy. I would not go with boy looking too young and give them right of skipping on me because mine or yours more patrician look. Looks is first way of either side assessing other, pimples, wrinkles, makeup, sloppy dress, you name it.