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body bags are ok, it's faces of dying or already dead people being shown I consider poor taste

first family friendly , now this, isn't it sweet bordering on sugary ?

I think not only we as outsiders are fighting strong cultural norms well ingrained. We as relatively affluent outsiders in terms of wealth and material possessions may not grasp well choices poor people are facing in their daily lives. And those may be like " do I have 20 baht for ticket to go to work or I better walk ?'' or "today for dinner we have only rice with some carrots because Bank needs new pen for the school". For us taking taxi may be just one of many choices , all of them we can afford. But there are some people who may consider it as treat and luxury and only luxury they can afford from time to time. For such people advice about saving money even if well meant and generally very sound may be otherwordly because horizon is too far. "Walking for two month to work to save 20 baht day and at end of those two months I will have 1000 baht extra ? What this farang is talking about? "

We are not talking about THAT Navalny. We were talking about dissident killed in penal colony. I doubt even they are related

Senility and dementia already sets in ? He is not that old ? You may be persecuted for revealing state secrets

I got such offer 'let go to the hotel across ' , I'm pretty sure it was teasing but did not have a chance to check it as it was guy I did not particularly like, lol so it was me who declined. As for large number of customers it may be a case on weekends , last time there on Aug I was only customer 9-11 pm if not longer on both nights . But I strongly doubt this is guys there only job , I think it's rather moonlighting for some extra cash. they get 1 $ from drink (drink is 3-6 $ depending of what at what time, before 9 is cheaper )plus tip if any You right about prostitution not being for everyone but I'm glad they were few who were interested in perusing stamp collection so all I want to say is do not lose hope when there.

and me

it there will be stage, hope that utilize spoon's idea of it being gym themed bar. I any case guys in upper row are clearly big time overdressed

lets put it this way , if guy you are dinking with expresses desire to exchange WhatsApp or Line with you , utilize that opportunity and see where it may lead. Not sure it has to do anything with particular app but for me Line worked and Whatsapp did not but probably it was my fault.

You sound like Moses with his percentages and statistics. " Considerably more" still doesn't mind anything close to fortune. "Three times as much as friend " may mean all of 1200 baht, nice sum to earn but still far from fortune or even base to start building post-bar future. Few guys no doubt do well due to mix of good looks , hard work and smarts, saving money and investing it in something productive, I know two who built houses , one bought pick up truck and started renting it but I doubt most of them have much to show for their troubles, partially because constant demand from folks at home to send money. Another issue I see is lack of money managment skills. Whenever I hear boy living by Silom soi 10 , easy walk, or in soi Pluk Chit by Lumpini MRT station are coming to work in Patpong by taxi I shiver

I'm glad you said the above as it clearly shows that different people subscribe to different type of fun. all you said it may be considered truth but I like that bar ( twice this year I went to Phnom Penh basically with purpose to visit Space Hair ) and atmosphere there. Can't care less about owner and his boyfriends ,they are not a reason I go there. Both nice guys by the way and usually after few rounds I'm treated with free shot of gin or something. I like not intrusive fun boys are offering an yes , that struggle how to get them to meet you after hours. Glad to report I was more successful than not although it did not happen last time I was there in Aug, God is my witness I tried, lol . It looks I misstepped talking tip too soon.

are you looking at the mirror when typing that? eh?

you must be Asian, lol

Are you sure it's street 300 ? I think you meant street 330, that's short street facing Tuol Sleng Prison. Love Spa is on street 350 , two blocks south of 330. I second your take on Hatha Khmer , great facilities , massages and crew I wouldn't stay in neither Rambutan nor Arthur and Paul next door for exactly opposite reason you did not like Sun and Moon - too quiet and too far from the center although with transport easily available it's not big issue. My massage at A and P was bit disappointing , shiny facilities but no soap in shower ? I agree that staying there could be exciting as stuff seem to be willing although when I was there nobody was THAT outstanding but I may be matter of taste. I'd never stay in Sun and Moon neither across the street in Queenwood hotels ( or is it Woodqueen?) for simple reason . Both are right by Space Hair and even if one finds guy there interested in seeing stamp collection , he my not be interested at all in being seen to enter either hotel as they are very discreet about their outside of bar activities if any.

Nong Nooch Gardens and Sanctuary of Truth are , I'd say world class attractions, there's also Wat Siem with only original Terracota Warrior outside of China.

Getting there, getting there. I'm not one who sights missing former glory but I must say that Aqua Spa is place I miss indeed, I'd venture to say even more than soi Twilight.( in soi Twilight days of glory I was more like massage boys hunter)

fantastic idea, imagine all those sweaty bodies exercising and you call one to have a rest over drink right beside you , yum, yum. And where's better place to flash all that sweat if not shower in our room in nearby hotel ?

covid did it

yes and that it's how I spotted exercising certain Handsome Cambodian whom I still see almost every trip.

it did and it was always full of exercising guys. It was time place was very popular and my first semi-permanent guy Pom was from there. But that's prehistory

# me too

I don't see any difference other that I like underwear of boy without better

I would gladly do but there's some problem - one three occasions I tried to attract his attention by way of forcing him to accept 100 baht tip during their walk and never got that confirmation smile I was waiting for during next walkabout. So I suspect I may not be his dream customer which hurts my fragile ego enormously. Still not giving up

for 3 days , yes

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