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I agree entirely. If I want a hand job, I can do it myself for free! 😃

Excuse me I am now totally confused. I assume you make your 90-day report to CM. When you visit BKK a TM 30 you say needs to be made which causes problems with your 90 report. But that report is made to and decided by CM. So how is that the problem with Bangkok immigration? Please explain.

Maybe I am suffering from some brain fog but to whom exactly does TM 30 apply to? If one is living here long time say in BKK (eg on a retirement visa) going to another province for a short visit and staying there at a hotel for a few days requires no notification by the guest to immigration? Right or not? Added : I did some research after my initial posting here and it seems that CM immigration is one of the few offices which enforce TM 30 as the OP describes. I assume the OP is in CM or deals with an immigration office that handles TM 30 differently.

Recently had a late night in Pattaya and ended up in Boytown. The busiest and best place in that area seems to be at: BoyzMusic bar. Taken over the former premises of Cafe Royale. No idea how long this bar going, but a fun place with boys moving there when they finish work at BBB. A good selection! https://www.facebook.com/BoyzMusic2019

"He would be a stay at home dad. I'll work..." You mean whilst you're working to keep him he would have plenty of time to entertain others.... Good luck! -Been there, done that!

Re Grindr what I would like to see more here is a discussion about the practice of lot of members on grindr posting fake or fabricated profiles. Technology enables them to change their faces and bodies etc. and give more favorable usually false details about themselves such as age or weight and so on. Now I know an answer to this is to meet in a neutral location first or to have a live video call before inviting them home; but I would be glad to hear how others cope with this. No need to tell me that you have never had this problem. Whatever you say it is widespread on Grindr especially from MB's or those seeking benefits.

Congrats to OP. You are in line for a medal at the gay sex Olympics. ☺️

My view for Bangkok S/T @ 1500-2000 CM and Pattaya and spa- ask others

Can someone post a photo here of this Mr Boom so we can judge for ourselves if he has superstar qualities? Thank u.

Great idea! A way to save money since Dreamboy charges a rediculous 500 baht per drink.

Many thanks BiggusDikkus . The best reply to my question so far with a specific example for an alternative drinking place. I actualy blame myself for using the expression: "gay-friendly". I should of used the phrase: "gay-popular" or similar. 🙂

An acquaintance -fairly new to Bangkok- has asked me for advice re gay drinking places: bars, pubs etc. He has been to Soi 4 and he has a appetite for plenty of booze so he finds the go go bars expensive. Can anyone recommend some gay friendly drinking places? He is staying in the Silom area so I guess he would want that area eg patpong, but any suitable places not so far away is ok. Many thanks and 2023 greetings to everyone! 🍾

vinapu: do u mean Dream Boy in pattaya or in BKK? My experience is that twinks are scarce in dreamboy BKK but more in dreamboy pattaya.. Incidentally Biggus Diggus above makes some v astute observations above re the energy changing in some of these bars from sexual to spectator. .A few staff in bars tell me there ain't so many offs as customers just want to look, chat and maybe touch but no go with the boy. Many here might remember the old Rome club which was the best in town until it was "infested" with straights which caused its downfall.

Dreamboy charge 500 baht for a drink, off is also 500. Freshboy 400 a drink and 500 the off also I believe. Hot male same... Surely these charges will deter some customers?!

I am sure it is not a mystery. From your posts on this forum you seem like a very nice person. 😃

vinapu writes: "in café I can tolerate guys being on the phone but not in my own bed and not when I hired them to help me with stamp collection" Agree entirely. Lendo writes above he is a top and " never have this with bottoms" -Well we are all creatures of our own experience and the few times it has happened to me it is only with bottoms. Some very good advice in the replies generally so I thank everyone for that. It ain't a big deal I realize and will try not to make it one ; I can as Lendo suggests discuss with the boy before offing him or simple politely though firmly tell him -when back to my home- to turn off his phone when we do it or leave the phone in another room in my apartment. And BiggusDikkus shares an interesting story above. 😊

Yes on reflection I can maybe say Dave did answer the question in his own way so I apoligise for that and maybe I am-- as Olddaddy says --taking it (too) personally... 😃

Yes thank u Dave..but this thread is not about watching porn per se, its' about the MB watching porn when he should be concentrating on being fucked or doing a fuck with the customer who is paying him. At least the first 2 responders above understood the question.😃 But maybe as "reader" astutely and succinctly says above: "I try not to take it personally They’re trying to fulfill both your and their fantasies. " Now that does answer the question even though it may be as kokopelli suggests : "maybe their partner is not very exciting or they are not doing what the money boy likes."

Recently over the last month or so a few Thai/Asian guests(mb) --not most of them -want to view porn on their phones when we are "at it". I find this very impolite and rude and in future will stop anyone doing this. what do others here think of this practice?

By the way may I ask a couple of questions following my recent trip to Pattaya: 1. If I decided to take another trip to Pattaya/Jontium ....which gay friendly hotel would you recommend in or around Jontium Complex? 2. On my visit to Boys Town I noticed that the Cupidol bar was all gone and the premises pulled down and or being re built. What happened? The previous owner of Cupidol was a pleasant charming person? Is he still about?

Here is a photo I took at Esan when I was there last early morning Friday:

The trip from Bkk to Pattaya and our brief visit there was a lot of fun. The driver (who was paid for his work) was a friend of one in our group and did a really good job of escorting us to the various venues when there. He also knew the quickest route to get to Pattaya. Once out of Bkk we had a hassle free easy journey. On the way to Jontiem Complex (JC) we stopped off on Beach Road for some sea air. Driving around Pattaya I get the impression a lot of Indian visitors much more than previously. Anyway: At JC we had a stroll up and down that soi. Had a drink at @homebar jontium before having a very tasty Thai meal at Diverium bar which is in the complex. Speaking for myself I was impressed with JC. Mainly open air "bar beers". Comfortable seating and plenty of eye candy. I got good vibes from the area, cute twinky type lithe guys and apparently the JC stays open until 2.00am so I am told- though some establishment in the complex may close earlier. I get the impression that JC is on the whole well run and managed, very much geared to appealing to the farang customer who likes a certain type. And also: Whilst in Soi 4, Silom, Bkk there is a constant stream of mainly straight tourists walking up and down the soi wanting to be shocked; none of that -or a lot less --in JC. Next stop Boys Town (BT). Walking around got a bit dismayed by the area as Covid really did devastate and the surrounds with abandoned out of business places an eye sore. That said every individual bar we went to had some nice lookers in varying numbers. Actually went inside for drinks at Toy Boys, BBB, Dream Boys and X Boys .Did not have time to get to A-bomb and walked past Pikky bar (open air bar) though did not see many guys there. It was a Thursday night and overall a distinct lack of customers.We caught the show at BBB which was not bad.The night I was there despite some women customers they were not an irritation but maybe different on other nights. A lot of those on the stage in BBB trying to give the impression they are "real men" but quite frankly the likes of Tawan , Jupiter, Dream boy Patpong, and so on in Bkk much nearer the mark on the score. And as to the Dream Boys near BT it was so lacking customers the boys were sitting inside and outside waiting for a customer to arrive before going on the stage.Yet some head turning cuties when they did get on the stage. Nevertheless to quote gayinpattaya who writes above: "The fact is, Jomtien Complex is where it's at now" Difficult to argue with that ; though of course some people find BT a more convenient location. Anyhow by now after midnight 30 , next stop (it was set to close at 2.00am) : Sinlapin Esan Third Road. Lively place with live music, singers and dancers on the stage. Customers a mix of straights and gays. A lot of dancing in the aisles and some nice lookers around. Better to go there in groups or with others. Very much Esan music style. Seems you either buy beer or a bottle of whisky. If you like neither can only go for non alcoholic. Nearing closing time we had just about had enough and off we go to be chaffeured back home, with many nice memories.

Will be going tomorrow= Thursday 10 November. I really appreciate all the helpful replies to my thread and from the above info I will now make some notes as to places to go.Any further replies here are of course still welcomed! After returning to BKK and after recovery I will supply a "no holes barred" report-no pun intended. (we are all boozers -and the driver who will be prohibited from drink apart from non alcoholic) There will be 3/4 of us and for the first 3 members or others who read this forum and who recognises us and says to us: "welcome odd couples" I undertake to buy you a glass of your favourite tipple! 🥳 PS the exchange re fat taxi drivers above is hilarious...bit like those in Dreamboy in Patpong: most there look like construction site workers!

In a few days a small group of us are planning a whirlwind trip coming from Bangkok to Pattaya. One of the group is his first time to Pattaya and for myself not been there since well before Covid. Will arrive early evening-we will drive along Beach Road and maybe Jontium Beach too- and mainly want to take a look a the bar scene, first in Jomtien Complex and therafter Boys Town area and anywhere else interesting, time permitting. Any late night places too? I was never really into Sunee Plaza...but is that place still alive? The idea is we spend the evening and night there, returning in the early morning. (work commitments for some later). Plus we no need stay hotel! Can anyone please update us on the bar scene there particularly Boy Town area and also Jontium etc., with a recommendation for restaurant in the gay areas? Thanks very much for any input. 😃

Some years back before Covid I went for a bar crawl with a straight relative to various bars including a ladyboy bar in Pattaya. Bought one of the "girls" a drink and had a chat. She told me that most of the time the bar customers want the ladyboy to fuck the customer. And from what I was told LB's- at least in that bar- were well endowed! (Without wishing to complicate the issue, there ar some "straight" guys who do like being fucked by their girlfriends by what is called 'pegging'. Pegging is a sexual practice in which someone (usually with a vagina) performs anal sex on someone else by penetrating their anus with a strap-on dildo.)