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Maybe he meant 1500 baht. That would definitely make more sense. The two guys I know who are positive are still working. They used to work at the same bar, where the other boys would refuse to do a threesome. Now one has moved to another bar down the road. Condom or not, I'm not going to have sex with them, that's for sure.

A "friend" who I see a lot of in Los told me of a couple of boys working the bars who he knows personally and who are positive. He told me the government gives them the drugs free and also plays them to take them. I think he mentioned 15000 baht per month.

Yes, I agree, I have nothing against lesbians. Hey, I love k.d. Lang. It's just that on a fantasy island where all is gays are having a great time, the last thing I want to see is lesbians, ladyboys, et. I wanna see MEN!!!!

I've had the opposite experience. I find the Thai guys overwhelmingly honest.

Alexx, koko, chill! It was tongue in cheek, so to speak. (Damn it! I should have added "Lol".)

Good! Then they can fucking well stay there!

No! No! Give the lesbians their own Island. OMG! I feel ill. I know nothing about the gay scene in China. But I'll bet that even though it's not all out in the open and there aren't any naturist places as far as I know, the local gay guys know exactly where to go to have fun. They would have their own places where they can get naked together and have get down and durty. I was once talking to a Pakistani guy at the airport as we were waiting to board. He told me that even though he lives in a Muslim country, he and his mates still have lots of fun. But the drinking and sex parties take place in people's homes. But I love the idea of a gay China resort.

Steve, we're you getting some inspiration from Cap D'agde?

"pro or con" I'm waiting to see if anyone can possibly come up with a 'pro'! Plenty of 'cons' though. I don't have a beer belly - I'm a social drinker and don't drink beer - but I imagine it would be hard to find pants that fit properly, hard to bend down and tie up your shoe laces, may cause problems when having sex (that would be the killer for me!) and you'd only ever see your cock in a mirror. Then there's the health issue. And that's serious.

I'm still trying to imagine what a "fluffy" tummy looks like.

I would never die on the back of a motorcycle taxi, as they tend to weave in and out of the traffic. But a tuk -tuk is ok in Bangkok, as the all day traffic jam means they can only go very slowly. If they hit something, or vice-versa, it is unlikely any damage will be done. A tuk-tuk in Chiang Mai, however, is another matter.

Wow, Ryan! Quite a rampage. Was it something I said? Lol "Go find some 和" Oh, dear. Google translate! This thread went off topic ages and pages ago. And anyway, the title has the word "anything'" in it, so there is no specific topic. "You are a guru here simply because nobody knows any better. " Nobody? I think other members may object to that. I will answer your question, even though it is off topic! "When did you work in Japan? " I moved to Japan when I was 13, went to high school and university in Tokyo and spent my entire working life there. Oh, and sgdad, I wasn't "picking a fight with ryanasia" - I was merely replying to a post he made to me. So, back to your "studies", sgdad. You're a student, remember? You don't have time to flood two boards with your crap. (Why would a Singaporean choose to study in a place like Chiang Mai??)

Ah, vessey. Forever the optimist! Lol

Hong Kong will probably have to wait until Beijing legalises gay marriage before they can move. So, which Asian country will follow Taiwan? Cambodia is my guess.

Thank God there aren't people who view Asia as an easily rubber-stamped, single entity whose occupants dispense a "distinctly Asian point of view". It would appear that there are, indeed, differing viewpoints throughout Asia. Eh, sgdad?

Sgdad, as a non-Asian, how on earth would you know that? And your comprehension skills are also sadly lacking, as I mentioned in a previous post, my comment was related to sex, not a view of the world. I suppose you could say I was making a very broad generalisation. A bit like this from you, quoting from your post in the "Pics from the"Kalilangan Festival" - "If you could generalise - and it would be a very broad generalisation - what differences in personality do you find between Thai and Filipino guys?" Lol And gosh, sgdad, I hope you are not insinuating that ALL Thai and ALL Filipinos guys have different personalities. Have I read something into your post that isn't there? Oh, and you may have needed a comma after "you" in the post above. I warned you about the use of commas here: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/11036-30-day-suspensions/page-11

Gay sex in a Muslim country is always risky. You never know when the religious nutters are going to turn up. I've been to Otot-otot sauna in KL and although I wasn't paranoid, the thought of the police turning up was at the back of my mind. When I was there a couple of years ago I heard that there was a new law which said saunas had to have bright lighting. At Otot-otot a guy told me the sauna had some kind of "arrangement" with the sauna, which permitted the dark areas. I think the wahabi influence is leading to a more conservative attitude from the locals in Indonesia.

Jack, please!!! Don't take them all! Leave some guys for me!

Ryanasia has "Asia" in his handle but sadly displays only a superficial understanding of Asia, it seems. "We do not share that common feeling or "kan" (感) as we call it in Japanese. Your comprehension is also a little suspect. If you read the above sentence carefully, you would have noticed I deliberately used the word "we" to indicate a feeling for both Australia and Japan. And I use "we" when referring to the Japanese language because it is the language that I and my Japanese friends - i.e. 'we" - speak. And when I talk about Japanese culture, I use "we" because it's a culture I share with Japanese people - i.e "we". I belong to both cultures, but have no special sentimental attachment to Australia. Jasper hit the nail on the head. I moved to Japan when I was 13 and have a huge group of friends going back to my school days (that bond made in school lasts forever in Japan, Ryan, in case you didn't know) and within that group (Japanese interact in groups, Ryan, in case you didn't know) I was just one of the guys. Whereas you, Ryan, would have been just a "gaijin" and treated as such. Or maybe "tolerated." As for your sauna comment, I'm not sure if that was directed at me. But if it was about me getting lost in the maze of a gay sauna then yes, it has happened to me many times. What was your point? Jasper wrote: "According to Japanese culture, people are supposed to understand each other's feelings without verbally explaining everything in black and white especially between friends, family and lovers" WE call it 腹芸 - "haragei." 漢字が読めるの、ライアンくん?

Different countries, different cultures, different way of thinking. I also can't see Thailand necessarily following what Taiwan has done. As for "fidelity" I think gays are rather promiscuous - sorry, I know that's a gross generalisation, but it's what I have observed - and many couples will have an "open" relationship. That is, they will fuck anything that stands still long enough. Lol

Then we got into Christian's underwear (not a problem with that) , my wide-legged shorts (a big problem with that) and then moved on to supposed generalisations about Asian guys. Where shall we go next?

At first I was going to let your reply just go through to the keeper, but then decided I didn't really want to be mis-quoted or have words put into my mouth. Sglad wrote: "No, you made an emphatic statement that there is a "distinctly Asian point of view". I'm curious to know what that is in 2017. What is this point of view that you insist that 1) all Asians innately have in common and 2) is uniquely Asian and 3) implicitly, because you want to hear it, 3) what is so special about it." Actually, I didn't say that at all. No 'emphatic statement " of any kind from me. And I certainly did not suggest there was any universal " distinct Asian point of view" on anything. How could I possibly know that? I'm not Asian. I said this: I want to read posts by Asian guys who see things from a distinctly Asian point of view. Not this : I want to read posts by Asian guys, who see things from a distinctly Asian point of view. Note the insertion of the comma in the second sentence. That changes the meaning completely. Only with a comma does my sentence refer to ALL Asians. So sorry, but you misread my post. That, therefore, negates your 3 points. As I said, don't read something into my comments that wasn't there. I was referring to moneyboys - they are the only Asians I interact with on a sex trip. In fact, they are probable the only Asian guys I would ever refer to on a board dedicated to having sex with Asian guys.

Well, I guess you could look no further than PeterRS's post #209 above. But I was actually referring to the way the Asian money boys see us farang sex tourists. When I've been with Western moneyboys - not very much experience here, I might add - I get a distinctly different feeling from them in the way they interact. I can't put my finger on it, so to speak. Also, I'd like to know how Asian moneyboys feel about having sex with farang as opposed to with fellow Asians. And how they feel about farang coming specifically to Asia for sex, rather than going to other Western countries. That's all it was about. Don't read too much into it.

Well, if you have to be told you are obviously not Asian.

Suspense only works for me if I know what's coming ; i.e. a happy ending. If I know that, then I can relax and enjoy the wait until the sexy part starts. Otherwise I spend my time worrying if it's going to happen or not. And if it doesn't, the I'm very pissed off, as I feel I've wasted a valuable opportunity during my limited holiday time.