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That's the red flag....if they're bitches at the interview stage, how will they be in bed? I also don't pay by the hour....I relate it to Thailand, short time.....I prefer to sleep alone, so long time usually isn't on the table for me.

I enjoyed my last trip, a mixture of guys...the ones that just want to fuck and go, want to be your bf, clock watchers, no shows.....tons of fotoshop and ugly penises to filter thru though. I stayed at the Conrad and they treated whomever was with me awesomely, as it should be.

Only happened once, to me, in Sao Paulo....there was no chemistry and he felt the same way. I told him I'd pay his taxi, and to be a bitch he said that he didn't need my money. I said OK!.....3 minutes later he turned around and came back to ask for the taxi money, I told him he HAD his chance when I offered it 🙄

Kind of like Barcelona, many guys seem to put a higher value on their time outside of the saunas....many guys at Lagoa also are online. I'm old fashioned, I like to see, touch, smell and hear how the guy is, not all that is available when hiring online. I've had mixed results from online, ,enough that I prefer in person tons over guessing if they have bad breath or talk like a girl. I guess a video call would help with some of that.....but when given the chance to be in person, I'll do that...is why we pay stupid sauna entrance fees and Thailand expensive drink prices, lol I'm just back from Colombia, with new guys, I'll meet in a public place for a drink 1st to see if there is chemistry....no knocking on the door surprises that are more difficult to back out of.

Detective macaroni seems to have figured out it's in Manila, lol

@gayinpattaya ?

Yes

Someone like you?

or a wallet?

Duh, he's a professional....Therapists use a sofa for a reason, you grew up Catholic and used to confession booths, aka glory holes Here's the proper way for therapy sessions .....

Weren't you just there?

I wasn't there, and even if I was, I don't pay for birthday parties, and don't go with Divas....that sounds more like @gayinpattaya type of guy, he loves drama, lol

$7 usd for a 41 minute ride is expensive???

I think they want to play the long game and get out of the Philippines, the freebies all wanted to be my bf with an eye of escaping to another country. The paid encounters were more direct, sexual and fun....no drama or clingy shit going on.

Didin't realize @vinapu had sex with Farangs....did he learn this from olddaddy? It's a cheeseburger he still owes me, get it right 😝

At Green and when it was called Tarntawan in their current space I've had massage that included fucking and happy ending, even got jerked off under the blanket during a foot massage. Prime, my guy wasn't cute and was chunky and I couldn't get him to do anything.....

How many times did you go?

you're back to being Butch?

Isn't that your stage name....have you taken over the massage shop?

Nothing "new" but my experiences in Salvador and San Miguel were something like this.....there were really only 2 gay bars and only openly gay guys went, read: bottoms. I asked my friends why and they said that the country is so small, if you're seen in the bars, everyone will know you've been there. They say every Salvadoran is a little gay, after a 6 pack. I had better luck in regular bars picking up "straight" guys and offering more drinks at my hotel, they knew what was up, but they were already buzzed. And an offer of 20-30 helped them save face because then they didn't consider themselves gay if they did it for money. I had friends from the US that were deported back there, is why I went...I def wouldn't make a trip there to experience Salvadoran sex, not when you could go to Colombia, Mexico or Brasil.

That's in the Asian forums, Latin America has it's own list of dilemas, would be funny to ask them how's the water buffalo next time they're asking for money 😱

Yes, for sex....the same guys might be charging over 100 on the apps/sites or bars. But in the sauna they're there to try to do as many as they can, if it's slow, they might spend a little time with you, but otherwise expect about 30 mins max at that price. I've had guys come back to my hotel for 40-50euros , from the sauna.....

You rented an apt in the sauna?

Agree 100%. Is why when people overpay, especially by a lot, throws the $$ dynamic out of whack...kind of like Uber dynamic pricing. We've been saying this on these boards for 20+ years...... Locals have always looked at foreigners poorly because of this, raising the expectations of the guys....then we have the clients that tell the guys, "you know you're worth more, this would cost xx dollars in NY, LAX, SFO, etc.... Paying more isn't going to buy more love, paying more might make you a preferred client, but sex is sex to most of these guys..... tell me when you were young, how attractive did you find a 60 or 70 yr old guy 😆..... we've all sat in the sauna watching these guys, that we've been with , making out with some other client wondering, how the fuck is he with THAT GUY, so gross, lol

I just flew back today....I generally try to include a stop there coming/going to Colombia, Brasil, Cuba whenever flying Copa. I've stayed at the Waldorf, Hilton, Doubletree, Hampton and Hilton Garden Inn. Never had a problem with bringing a guy back....generally grindr works well and rates range from $30-80 with an occasional looking for 100usd. Then there's https://www.skokka.com.pa/escorts-masculinos/panama/ Google Gay Panama panama escorts, theres a few other sites, but mostly guys that you'll see on Skoka or Grindr. Also has a gay sauna, https://www.instagram.com/hammansauna/ gay for gay no working guys that's busy on Monday and decent on the weekends but I'm over going to gay for gay saunas, too much work, I prefer to have someone back to my hotel or out for dinner/drinks then the hotel. There used to be the best Thai restaurant I've found outside of Thailand, but they didn't survive Covid sadly. Nothing stands out as memorable to me, but I haven't ventured much into the dining scene there as much as I have in Brasil and Colombia. Panamanian food isn't vary flavorful, to me, same as Colombian, Dominican, Cuban food.... they don't do spicy, lol