Travellerdave

Good advice in the last few posts. After oral especially after having cum in my mouth I always use mouthwash, but am not sure whether this does any good. I take one of the very small bottles when going for a massage or visiting a gay sauna such as the Sansuck. As a general rule i would not suck cocks in a bar, but in bed with a boy I love it.

I don’t recall meeting any Vietnamese boys during my recent trip to Pattaya. Many Cambodian and some Laos boys in the Complex Bars, who were mostly good for me in bed. Perhaps Viets tend to work in BKK.

Yes that’s certainly true Vinapu. Hotels in Thailand are great value particularly in Pattaya where competition forces prices down. I stayed at the Agate during part of my September trip and the cost I would estimate was about a third that of an equivalent hotel in the UK, which is expensive partly due to the VAT tax of 20%. Mind you my expenditure on rooms was much less than that on boys. Taking into account visits to the bars, off fees, boys tips, condoms/lube and a few presents it would be something like an average of 4500 baht per day. This is probably twice what I spent when I first visited Pats 16 years ago, and even more in GBP bearing in mind the depreciation in the pound. I would certainly stay at the Agate again but still spend sometime in one of the BT Hotels. It’s very gay friendly rather than 100% gay. In addition to a bed (double) of course, working shower and aircon, good reliable broadband is important.

I visited Winner several times during my last trip 4-7 weeks ago. If number 23 had been there I would have tried to off him - he looks just my type, but I dont recall seeing him. However the two twinkly boys I did off on two separate nights gave full satisfaction. Going there to Sunee was a change from my base in the Complex. The former is very run down and a shadow of what it was when I first discovered Pattaya 16 years ago.

You have a good point there a447a. I would not like to be in the Ambience if there was a fire. It’s rather a maze without one. I remember contacting a boy from GR and on arrival the lobby telephoned me so I told them to send him up. After 5 minutes he had not appeared at my room so I went in search of him and when I found him I got a little lost guiding him.

Of course when discussing the BT hotels the big issue is the noise factor. As has been mentioned the culprit is the karioki from the Le Cafe which goes on until ridiculously late hour. At the Ambiance it’s better to have a high room for this reason. I’ve eventually got used to the layout and I find that sitting outside gives an opportunity to meet other guests and talk about the Pattaya gay scene.

Yes Jomtien Complex is the place to be for twinks. In terms of quantity I found it better than BT or Sunee, although you dont get to,preview the boys as you do in gogos. Cupidol in BT was rather a disappointment during my recent trip, in that the complement of boys were not twinkly enough for me, whereas in March they were just what I like. However as we all know things can change quickly in the Pattaya Bar world.

Biguyby Yes you are certainly right that it hit and miss at the Sansuck. I visited during my recent trip,and left without any significant sexual experience, even though I went upstairs and prowled about. In the past I very much enjoyed a number of visits and the excitement of the cruising areas upstairs. This time I found to much light and too few boys to have encounters with. I loved kissing and feeling in the maze before entering a cubicle.

I have had boys who on entering my room just march up to the fridge and take a beveridge without asking. When I protested saying something like 'hey that water costs me 80 baht" they act suprised thinking that the mini bar is free. Some boys you have to watch so as to make sure they don't remove a hand towel which would of course go on my account. Of course them removing the small complementary items in the bathroom is not something that concerns me, but removing a nearly full tube of lube did annoy me once. I have to say however that these "offences" Are not for me a regular occurance.

Best wishes for your project which will take a effort to organise. If I was in Pats I would make the investment and see how I turned out, although at my age I fear that a lack of stamina would reduce the potential pleasure. 10 years ago with a gay friend we took 3 boys back to our condo for a party. This was memorable but your project is a step up in scale. If you get it off the ground I'm sure everyone would enjoy a report.

For me the lack of alcohol on the beach would be not a problem at all. During my recent trip I tried to reduce my consumption so my daytime drink was tea and the Thai word was part of my limited vocabulary - "Cha Lawn". Unlike most of my utterances this always produced the desired beverage. Sitting on the beach in nice weather with a cooling breeze under a concession umbrella drinking a large cup of tea was one of the nicer experiences of my holiday. The lack of shade on Wednesdays and Thursdays and the absence of boys to flirt with, was a definite minus however. One day I watched a gang of workers cleaning the beach. They removed large amounts of plastic and other debris. The general view was that Jomtien was less polluted than the Pattaya one, but I've never seen any evidence to back this up. I have swam in the sea at Dongtan over the years without ill effects but maybe I've just been lucky. The same luck maybe when I topped Boys bareback during my first couple of Pattaya trips 17 years ago, and remained healthy.

Prior to my recent trip I've nearly always stayed in gay hotels in BT or Sunee, more often than not at the Ambiance. However this time I stayed mostly at the Agate in Jomtien. The gay scene seems to have gravitated there in recent times and whilst there are no gogos, there are a multitude of boys of the type I prefer I.e. twinks. As has been pointed out already, transport from BT and Sunee is not a problem particularly if you are ok with walking and motor bikes. I offed a boy twice longtime from Winner Boys and returned to the Agate by bike. However I didn't take up his suggestion of the both of us on the same bike. I would not even consider the Holiday Inn, as I am very much the gay sex tourist. In the distant past I have tried non-gay hotels but I'm rather sensitive to the stares and whispered comments from other guests.

Wish something could be done to attract the boys back to Dongtan gay beach to entertain us !. A few years ago they used to appear in the afternoons and decorate the place with their brown slim bodies in small tight speedos. Some playing volley ball. Some available for a liaison.

I regard the decision to off a boy as an big investment of my time and money. My offs are usually long time so it's important for me to ascertain that he will perform in bed in the ways that give me pleasure. Kissing is an essential preliminary so I try to check this out in the bar . Some boys resist my tongue in their mouth so that would be a negative mark. I am versatile I like being topped so a feel of his cock is necessary. Not too big !. Them cumming too soon is a disappointment but you can't get an answer about that pre off. Yes checking them like you would any purchase is sensible to reduce the chance of disappointment. During my recent visit to Pattaya - 18 days with 12 separate boys, mostly from Jomtien, I only had two unsatisfactory offs.

The closing of the concessions is a stupid decision by the authorities. Laying or sitting on the beach unprotected by the shade provided by the umbrellas is not wise and only appeals to a small minority. Thus on Wednesdays and Thursdays the beaches attract only a very few sun worshippers. This certainly increases the advantage of staying in a hotel with a pool such as the Agate in Jomtien or the Sansuck. Like all Thais the boys in Pattaya don't like the sun and always try and protect their skin against its rays. Over the years I've sometimes had the pleasure of a boy in small tight speedos sat with me on the beach (normally Dongtan gay beach) or a pool, especially if their skin is a nice golden brown. Although very often the invitation to do this with me involves an extra tip.

I've stayed at the Agate recently. No tour groups were there during my visit. It is not a gay hotel but in the friendly category. There are two pools but both are rather small. In February I stayed at the Poseidon. A tiny indoor pool with a flow of pumped water - a rather novel facility. It appeared to 100% gay. Of the two I much preferred the Agate Both of these appeared to be more expensive than Zing.

Pattaya is very much a nighttime place. During the day (say 4am to 6 pm) the entertainment areas are quiet and in effect sleeping. The best plan is to fall into line with this reality and conserve energy for when the town wakes up. My daytime scedule is often as follows; 9am say goodbye to my overnight boyfriend. Have a liesurely breakfast and then have some form of physical activity often gym or a swim. I like to sit on the beach reading a book or newspapers downloaded on my iPad observing the beach scene. Perhaps get into conversation with another chair occupant (on Dongtan this is likely to be a fellow gay sex tourist ). Later I retreat back to the hotel and try to sleep for a couple of hours. I have had massages but don't value the therapeutic part and sex on the massage table is usually very inferior to that when being in a large bed with a nice twinkly boy. Of course there is Planet Romeo, but the drawback is often arranging the date with poor English speakers and Thai boy's lack of geographic knowledge. One Jomtien boy I contacted with GR had no idea where BT was and how to get there. No the best routine is to relax and recover during the daytime in preparation for a night of fun and sex after acquiring you latest boyfriend.

The Agate is certainly a quality hotel for a very reasonable price. Very comfortable rooms and a great breakfast served with a smile. They have made an effort with the decor with floors consisting of colourful tiles and there were works of art at intervals throughout the hotel. I sat by the larger of the two pools but it is not big enough for excercise swimming and the so-called fitness area is practically non-existent. The two welcome non-alcoholic drinks were really delicious. Of course for gays the proximity of the bars is a major reason to stay there and whilst it is not a 100%'gay hotel it certainly is very friendly. I will henceforth take glowing testimonials on tripadviser with a pinch of salt. They offered an inducement of a free drink for a favourable one.

I've only travelled once with a boy and that was a short trip to Koh Samet only a couple of hours from Pattaya. It was some years ago when I had longer stay of 6 weeks. I rented a condo for a month, staying in the Ambience for the first 2 weeks. After a week,or so sharing my bed with a procession of boys I became attached to one that I offed for several nights. Moving to the condo I decided to settle down and did a deal with the Sunee gogo for him to stay with me for a week. I liked him and enjoyed buying him presents and nice meals - I became his daddy. Deciding on a trip away from Pats I booked a 3 day to Ko Samet. Beautiful place but it didn't work out - he was bored and I was very conscious of the disapproving looks from other visitors at the bungalow complex and on the beach. We stood out like a sore thumb - me and a 20 year old. I was pleased when the time came to take the ferry and bus back to base. I wouldn't do it again especially if the trip was longer than my short one.

Yes he bottomed for me and he told me his room was near Tukcom. He told me that he worked in a hotel but did not say in what capacity. He took a motor bike to Jomtien Complex and arrived reasonably quickly. He is versatile and fucked me a little before we changed roles. Id on Gr. sirikornha537.

Yes work is in progress to improve the seashore but it does not impact on the pleasure of sitting on the beach. There is no problem walking to the gay section, although I would say that it should not now be described as such, bearing in mind a significant number of customers in the area are obviously not gay. Perhaps in these enlightened times there is no need for gay men to congregate in specific areas of beaches. Although we would have to be a bit more restrained and cut out some of the activities seen a few years at Dongtan - kissing and cuddling, sharing a single chair and fondling in the sea to mention a few.

Yesterday I spent nearly all afternoon on the Dongtan Beach enjoying the great weather - sunny with a light breeze. So far in my trip the forecasts of heavy rain showers have proved to be completely wrong. Thinking that it would be raining a lot I brought a rather heavy duty rain jacket which I use back home for walking in the hills, but it has remained in my bag. I sat in the next concession to the closed toilet where about 20% of the chairs were taken. Mixture of gays with Thai boyfriends, singles like me and several elderly hetro couples. No boys unattached I'm afraid - those days are gone. I remember a few years ago when Thai boys arrived in the afternoons and arosed us dressed in their tiny speedos looking for action. Some played volley ball leaping and falling displaying their tight brown bodies. I digress ! , after a while reading the English newspapers on my new 12 inch IPad I entered the fairly calm sea and swam out the the barrier and back which seemed like a long way. My short time morning boyfriend told me that the sea was too polluted to go in - there are mixed views on that but I certainly enjoyed the swim. Returning to the hotel at 5pm I decided to check out the Sansuck Sauna where I had enjoyed visits in the past. I walked there in about 20 minutes taking both my speedos and my wet look thong which I had worn there before. However the guys Around the pool were modestly draped in towels so the thong stayed in the locker. After a coffee I went into the whirl pool and sat naked for a while enjoying the flow of water getting horny. Going upstairs I found the formerly nearly dark maze had low key illumination. Shuffling about I found no young bodies to enjoy so called it a day at the Sansuck and returned to the hotel rather disappointed. However compensation was at hand after a small meal of chicken cashew nuts in the shape of a twinkly boy from one of the bars who I engaged for a short time. A good session at the end of which I was delighted to be able to fuck him to completion without chemical assistance filling the condom with cum. Buoyed up by this I gave him my high range tip of 1500 - worth every baht for the confidence the experience has given me . I think I benefitted from the sea air and exercise plus limited beer consumption. After that everything would be downhill so I remained in my room watching 3 episodes of the Sopranos on my new excellent iPad - worth every pound of the 750 I paid for it.

He was in my room about 1.5 hours so yes short time. He said he does not go onto GR a lot because he works in a hotel. I've never seen him before. I had a good talk after sex because he speaks reasonable English.

Browsed GR this morning where I noticed this boy and contacted him. Exchanged messages to and fro as he didn't seem to want to give me his telephone number. He later said he had no idea where the Jomtien Complex was. Typical Thai boy - they seem ignorant of geography apart from the immediate area where they work. I told him to take a motor bike and I would meet him outside. He turned up minus ID card but I just walked him through the lobby to my room. Turns out he works in a hotel and speaks fair English. Supplements his small wage. Small twinkly boy aged 19. Nice smooth body. Small rock hard cock. Good session 4.5/5.00.

I don't have much of an appetite when in Pattaya. Today I've just had the excellent Agate breakfast. Last nights boy decided he would go back to his room at about 8 am. Suited me as I had had enough sex for one night. On the beach at 3.00 pm I had a salad with potato. That's it !. Mind you I've had 5 SAN Miguel light beers and some tea in the room. At home I am a chocoholic but here none has passed my lips, despite being tempted in 7-11 whilst buying condoms, lube, and listerine last night. Maybe I will loose a few pounds whilst here or probably not.