Travellerdave

Another question about Winner for recent visitors. How many boys would you expect to find at say 10 pm ? This would be when most boys would have appeared but before many were offed. Also what proportion could be classified as twinks.

Z909 would that be three separate boys or maybe the same boy three times?. I find it sometimes a bit difficult to “butterfly”, although I do like to off different ones in the early part of my trips. Later I often evolve into daddy mode.

ChristianPFC get on the bus to Pattaya!. I’m going to do just that next week from the airport. In fact I’ve just made my reservation on the very excellent Bell Travel service. Winner Boys will definitely be high on my agenda.

Boy69 I agree there is some truth in what you say. One of the first questions boys ask in bars is “where you stay”. As we all know it’s “Money Number one” for Thais in tourist resorts where sex tourists both gay and str go to enjoy. I suppose it’s a gauge for them as to the size of their tip, although I suppose there could be disappointment when after a night in an up market hotel they receive 1000 baht. Can you tell,us about “the troubles” ? . I have had a lot of these over the last 17 years visiting Thailand.

Rather a disappointing visit to Cupidol with offable boys in short supply. About this time last year it was a prime source of twinks and I offed several from there. However when I visited during my September trip it seemed to have changed and I found no boys attractive to me. I’m due in Pats next week and intend to stay in the Complex, although I have yet to make a reservation. CurtisD did not interact with boys during his visit. I suppose it now being high season attractive boys will be in demand so if you find one you have to act quickly.

I’m in Pats next week. Just thinking about where to stay. Not BT it’s Too noisy late at night. Perhaps I will try the Baan Souy. Probably better to make a reservation cos it’s high season now. Although the Complex would be more convenient for the bars.

As you can see from my avatar I’m in full agreement with you Vessey.

Pleased to hear that. It would be sad if this survivor of Sunee’s former glory were to expire. I’m due in Pats in a couple of weeks and look forward to visiting. During my september trip I only went to Winner in Sunee and offed twice from there.

This thread prompted me to check international road casualty statistics. I know this is a massive deviation from our normal discussions but here goes. The comparison between the UK and Thailand looks even worse against the latter when,looking at road deaths per 100,000 vehicles. Thailand has 24,237 deaths in a recent year compared with U.K. of 1827. Per 100,000 vehicles it’s 74.6 as against 5.1 respectively. UK is one of the better countries, but if you really want to be ultra safe on the road better go to Finland with 4.4. If you want to live dangerously, Afghanistan is your place, unsurprisingly with 722. I very much accept that Thai road deaths are very much worsened by the large proportion of motor cycles there, which are inherently unsafe, whereas in the U.K. they are a very small proportion of traffic. However the Thai habit of driving very close to the vehicle in front makes me very nervous, as does the lack of Lane discipline. For airport to Pats and vice-versa I will be on a big bus on arrival at the end of January for my next trip !. Numerous Buddha medals dangling from the rear view mirror do not reassure me at all.

I always have a large bag travelling to Pats from the airport either via Bell Travel or the Public bus. There is never a problem although I believe they can make an extra charge if you have more than one large bag. Bell Travel is getting very popular, with the buses running full, and now advance reservation is required, which can be a problem,if your flight arrives late, as mine did in September. I had to take the public bus sitting next to a talkative Belgium guy regaling me with observations about girlie bars. He became much quieter when I said I was gay !.

I avoid taxis and mini buses, not on the grounds of cost, but for safety reasons. You are much safer on the big buses such as Bell Travel from the airport to Pats. Thailand has seven times the number of road deaths than the UK , with about the same population. I have heard people boasting that they did airport to Pats in less than 90 minutes. That would be travelling at 85mph plus, a few feet from the car in front weaving from lane to lane, with the driver talking on his phone.

In the cooler weather I sometimes dispense with the aircon and open the window or balcony door and let a little fresh air in. Although that’s not good if insects penetrate the room. I seem to sleep better that way. Boys don’t seem to mind - Asleep is their natural condition.

Over the last 20 years I’ve made a great number of trips to Thailand, principally to Pattaya, at various times of the year. The only times I avoid are Christmas / New Year ( say 15 December to 15January) and Songcran in April. Coming from the North West of England the differences in rainfall or temperature really don’t register with me. Ok November to March hotel prices are higher but that cost is a relatively minor part of the trip budget. The number of attractive boys seems to adjust to the number of gay customers in town. If there are a good number, the boys call their friends in Isaan who get on the bus to service the demand. Classic economics.

I wonder if anyone has had trouble with the police following poppers usage. I’m not a regular user. I suppose it could happen that a money boy could report you. Maybe I’m being a little paranoid.

The Agate looks to be about the same price as the Baan Souy for late January, when I might want to stay. It was much cheaper of course in September when I was there. You will get a better rate booking direct rather than through agencies. I suppose comparing the two hotels it depends on how much you value the proximity of tha Agate to the Complex bars.

Nasherich - how much did you pay for a room at the Baan Souy. High season or low season. Is it 100% gay ?

I use motor bike taxis quite a lot and have never been involved in an accident. They can be a good option from Boystown or Sunee to the Complex. I’ve even had my off with me on the same bike. About 100 baht solo and maybe 150 double. During the day the walk to Pattaya is good excercise. First along Dongtan then up to Thrapraya Road and under the flyover to South Pattaya.

I visited a couple of times during my last trip. I don’t recall the towels but some boys were wearing the bow ties which look sexy. I think there could be more variety with boys dress in the gogo’s. Perhaps wearing jocks or g-strings would be good. I don’t like 100% naked.

I usually take viagra or generics at the start of my trips but then find no need and discontinue. How long would it be safe to start using poppers ? one or two days or longer ?. I’m versatile and like to partake sometimes when I’m being topped.

I Stayed there in September and intend to do so during my next trip. I had a very good experience. It’s very comfortable and the breakfast is great also very convenient for the gay bars in the Complex. Being low season there were not many other guests - a mixtures of gays and their Thai boys and hetros. It’s not 100 percent gay but there was no tour parties staying. Much quieter than staying in Boystown.

I usually work out at Tonys on Third Road near the junction with South Pattaya Road. This is the largest gym in Pattaya with an extensive range of weights / aerobic machines and it has a fairly large swimming pool. There are two facilities on each side of the road. Long term memberships are good value but for periods less than one month it’s rather expensive.

Long time ago before I discovered Thailand and Pattaya I spent my holidays in gay European resorts, principally Playa del Ingles. I dedicated most of the daylight hours to turning my white Northern European body a deep shade of brown by lying on the beach there. I believed, not without justification, that this made me more attractive to other gay men. I liked to excentuate the brown by wearing thongs to produce tan lines. When in Pattaya I hide from the fierce sun under the beach umbrellas and walk around taking advantage of any shade, as do the majority of the Thais, unless their work prevents this. When I go home my skin is hardly any different shade to how it was on arrival. However I very much like brown skinned boys and find the contrast with white bed sheets most attractive. On the beach or at the pool, white speedos and their brown skin are very nice. Returning to the theme of this thread, Cambodian boys are great. I offed several from the bars in the Complex.

During my regular trips to Pattaya I prefer to have boys with me long time so I very much endorse the procedure described earlier by Vessey. In fact for me to sleep alone would be a little bit unusual. I find I’m most horny when waking up which is often early say 6 am, having gone to bed about midnight. If you look at my posts regarding hotels you will sometimes read complaints about noise, particularly at the Ambience. Many boys are not morning people so they can be slow to response to my demands for sex at that time. I’m versatile but in the morning I’m top, whereas at night it’s kissing and sucking.

These arguments have been going on for many years before Internet forums in fact. I remember during my first trip to Pattaya in 2002 being chastised when in a Sunee host bar when asked how much I was paying a boy for a long time off. When I replied 800 he said that it was far too much and that I was spoiling the boys. This was when I was getting about 70 baht for a £ !.

Although I often do short time My preference is to off the boy at about midnight and to have him in bed with me until about 9 or 10 in the morning. I’m versatile but on waking up I’m most definitely top so specifying his time of departure is important. Also I quite enjoy buying them breakfast particularly if they speak some English and very occasionally offering them more money to accompany me to the beach.