PeterRS

A timely warning! But the Health Department conveniently forgets its lengthy Paper endorsed by the Cabinet in 2017. Titled Thailand National Strategy to End AIDS 2017-2030, it illustrates that some at least of its aims have been forgotten during the period up to 2022. For example, it states that in 2015 there were 6,900 new infections of HIV. That has now actually increased to the estimated 9,230. How on earth is this to be interpreted? The 2017 Report states that 6.8% of males had their first experience of intercourse before the age of 15! When does a horny young teen decide that he is "ready"? It's nonsense! Another point raised in the 2017 Report makes clear that there was then considerable resistance to HIV infected persons. "The National Health Examination Survey conducted on households in 2014 found that 76% of respondents agreed that people were hesitant to receive an HIV test due to fear of positive reaction while 58.4% had discriminatory attitude toward HIV either uncomfortable to buy fresh or prepared food from HIV-infected vendors or felt that HIV or AIDS-infected children should not be allowed to attend class with other children." Nothing in the OP media report suggests how these concerns are gong to be alleviated. And until that is done, there is in my view zero chance of any anti-HIV campaign being effective. And as with the OP above, the 2017 Report makes only very little mention of MSM. https://hivhub.ddc.moph.go.th/Download/Strategy/EN_3Thailand National Strategy to End AIDS.pdf

i have stated before on this forum that i regard 'social media' as 'unsocial media'. Have an argument in a pub and the vast majority of people have an open and frank discussion with differing views being aired without fists being used. It's not just TikTok. Most social media platforms allow for expression of views without any regard whatever for a discussion. Almost all of what can be written is rarely moderated or moderated too late. Of course in the right hands social media can be a very useful and productive tool. The problem as I see it is that more and more ordinary people - not just the bad actors - use it believing their views are gospel.

I undestand both points. But I do sincerly believe that back in 1984 when the Joint Declaration agreement on Hong Kong's future was signed, both countries actually believed what they said and which are included in the Agreement. I had two good friends who were civil servants on the UK/HKG negotiating team. As far as the UK was concerned - and indeed almost all of the expat business people in Hong Kong and their head offices around the world - China would never kill the goose that was laying its golden eggs. Besides, there was a frequently quoted comment that within the 50 year period following 1997, China would become a much freer economy with far greater grass roots democracy. In other words, it would be far more like Hong Kong. What killed the golden goose was Hong Kong's last governor Christopher Patten. In a post always previously given to a very senior civil servant, Patten was a politician who had lost his seat in the 1992 general election won by Prime Minister John Major. Offered a couple of senior government jobs, Patten said the only job he wanted was the last governorship of Hong Kong. Against the advice of the foreign office, Major caved in. Once in Hong Kong, Patten did everything he possibily could to undermine the terms of the Joint Agreement. Clouded in the strictest secrecy he allowed a British television channel to visit Hong Kong over the course of a year as he sought every tiny loophole that would enable him to assist the very young and then relatively unpopular HK Democratic Party. He then infuriated the Chinese by breaking the Joint Agreement in making a unilateral statement. In 1994 he announced increased democracy in Hong Kong prior to 1997. As many in Hong Kong were aghast at this announcement, there was considerable agreement that through Patten Britain was flushing Hong Kong down the toilet. After all, it had had many decades to introduce democracy but had never done so. Why, it was asked, leave it to the last minute, infuriate the Chinese by breaking a mutually agreed position and risk the consequences? These came quickly. As was their right, the Chinese announced that all political agreements would cease on July 1 1997 instead of as earlier agreed continuing through to the new administration. As Patten sailed away from Hong Kong with Prince Charles on the Royal Yacht, the Chinese then put their own people in place. It was entirely a result of Patten's stupidity, narcissism and idiocy. If anyone does not believe that, look at the disasters during his later term as Governor of the BBC, a post from which he had to resign. For around the first 15 years, it was clear the Chinese were sticking to the Agreement. But in 2014 the actions of the Beiing appointed Chief Executive angered a young group of students who had been inspired by Patten's ideas and wanted to have more say in the Hong Kong government. This resulted in 3 months of protests with students camping out on one of the city's main vehicular arteries. Named the 'Umbrella Protests' they massively disrupted the flow of traffic in the central district. They also pissed off quite a number of Hong Kong people. A petition signed by 1,800,000 residents called for the disuruption to end and the restoration of law and order. It worked. The rulers in Beijing were well aware of the power of students. It was not just 1989 in Tiananmen Square. Throughout Chinese history, students have ofen been at the forefront of demanding change. To finally get their back on Patten's "reforms", new laws were introduced in 2019-20 making such protests all but impossible in future. And so the so-called "love China" policy became law. The question that needs to be asked is: had those very long very disruptive protests in 2014 not occurred, would the 2019 laws have been necessary? Did the students overplay their hands? Did they not understand how Beijing might eventually react? Between 1984 and 2019 the long and highly complicated series of events relating to Hong Kong and its future cannot be encapsulated in just a sentence here or a phrase there. I'll give the last word in this post to Margaret Thatcher's leading civil servant when those 1983-1984 negotiations were taking place. Sir Percy Craddock despised the way Patten went out of his way to anger the Chinese. In a long article for Prospect Magazine in April 1997, he ends with this sentence - "All who look beyond the headlines will wonder why Britain, with its long and rich experience of China, should reserve its biggest mistake for the last act of the play."

Plenty of ways to avoid unwanted touching

Moronic puts it rather politely in my book. To allow bars to stay open till 4:00 am but not serve alcohol for the final two hours is totally nuts! I suppose there is some sort of Thai logic behind it but try telling that to tourists who go into a bar expecting a drink at 3:00 am!

I missed two classic songs which have remained favourites since they first came out. First was Roy Orbison's mid-1960s hit "It's Over", reflecting nicely the mood of a young teenager with a crush which was not reciprocated. The second is the famous mid-1970s Eric Carmen number "All By Myself" with the main melody lifted unashamedly from the classical composer Sergei Rachmaninov's Second Piano Concerto. Carmen himself ws a trained classical pianist and he just assumed when it was released in 1975 that Rachmaninov's music was out of copyright. It was in the USA but neither he nor the record label realised itwas still under copyright in Europe. So they quickly had to do a deal whereby the Rachmaninov estate got a rather nice 12% royalty. Carmen's other most popular song "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" also has as its main theme a melody from Rachmaninov's Second Symphony. Again a 12% royalty went to the estate!

Absolutely in no way. He is a valued contributor.

Yes, I do realise that. He is from Malaysia. I did write Asian/Thai - meaning either Asian or Thai reasoning!

Sorry, predictive spelling changed Suella to Stella and I did not notice! Don't know enough about the fine details of UK politics other than the present lot in power have made such a ghastly mess that hopefully they will be booted out and stay out for a long time. Just yesterday one of the tabloids claimed a Chairman of that Party accused his predecessor of covering up a serial rapist with up to 8 victims who remains a sitting MP. Not only did they do nothing about the MP, they paid for one of his victims to be treated at the Party's expense at a private hospital. The vidictive Nadine Dorris, the former Culture Secretary (who seems to know nothing about arts and culture!) and who is mightily pissed off that the Peerage she felt she was entitled to (enabling her to call herself 'Dame') was not given to her, alleges in her new book that. among other unsavoury episodes, an MP had sex on a billiard table with four other MPs looking on and cheering (odd, surely, that the House of Commons would have a billiard table rather than a snooker table?), and another MP stored a laptop on behalf of a relative with indecent images of children! Mind you, "Culture" was a dead-end job despite around 4 million working in jobs specifically related to the work of that department, and Ms. Norris was the 10th to occupy that position in 10 years. The Guardian newspaper called her a "toxic disaster". Indeed her only claim to knowing anything about culture was taking part in an "I'm A Celebrity - Get Me Out Of Here" TV reality show. They did. She was the first voted off! What a bunch of total incompetents! (Do I get a few marks for inserting the awful Ms. Norris into the discussion?)

Many thanks for a great report. Glad you had some memorable times.

Voice of Asian/Thai reason!

Tony Bennett gave his last tour performances aged 94 at Radio City Music Hall. Now that was a voice with great personality!

@scott456 should try Jakarta, Manila, Kuala Lumpur and Hong Kong for starters. All have either more or most of the same problems but without the gorgeous temples, the variety of street food, the river life (Hong Kong's harbour is nothing similar) and the beguiling Thai smiles.

The Steven Spielberg/Martin Scorsese co-produced movie Bernstein is due to open with much fanfare in cinemas at the end of the month and then on Netflix. This true tale about the love affair between the acknowldged gay orchestral conductor Leonard Bernstein and his wife will almost inevitably throw the spotlight on to other gay men and women partcularly in the world of classical music. That world has tradtionally been closeted when owning up to some of its personalities who are gay and still not out. It is almost as though the older generation who tend to make up the audiences for most classical concerts still do not want to believe that their idols are anything but average straight men and women. They are of course wrong, and more and more classical musicians are coming out. We know that in his late teens and early 20s Bernstein mixed with a clique of American classical composers almost all of whom were gay. We know that some of those he mentored are gay - or at least bisexual. One, Michael Tilson Thomas, was Music Director of the London Symphony and for the last 28 years has been Music Director of the San Francisco Symphony. Sadly he is now very ill with brain cancer. Marin Alsop recently MD at the Baltiore Symphony is one of the few openly gay women conductors. The Canadian Yannick Nezet-Seguin is openly gay and is Music Director at both the Philadelphia Orchestra and New York's Metropolian Opera. Of soloists, the great super-virtuoso pianist Earl Wild who died in 2010 aged 94 was also openly gay throughout his long life and distinguished career. Another piano virtuoso, Vladimir Horowitz, had married conductor Toscanini's daughter. But in the music business he was known by most to be at best bisexual although another great pianist Arthur Rubinstein said of him, "everyone knew and accepted him as a homosexual." Britain's finest pianist Sir Stephen Hough has been openly gay and happily partnered since his mid-30s. French pianist Jean-Yves Thibaudet is also out and lives with his partner in Los Angeles. The other day I was flipping through youtube videos for a recording of the little-known Pergolesi Stabat Mater conducted by that great - and not at all gay - conductor Claudio Abbado. I then discovered what I consider a far better and more modern version with as one of the soloists the French counter-tenor Philippe Jaroussky. Today the world seems awash with counter-tenors - that developed, mostly-falsetto head voice that replaces in many concerts and recordings a voice somewhat akin to the castrati of 300 years ago. Many are thought, wrongly, to be gay, although some are. I had heard of Jaroussky but never listened to the voice. He is openly gay and has lived with his partner for about 17 years. Now a superstar in the counter-tenor firmament, he his very good loooking and his voice has been described as "that of an angel". Perhaps this short excerpt of the Handel aria "Ombra mai fu" - popularly known as Handel's Largo - made at a ceremony marking his award as Opera SInger of the Year will give an idea. I can recall only one instance where a gay counter-tenor has overstepped the boundaries of decency and morality. Back in 2007 I saw a glorious production of Handel's opera Giulio Cesare in Chicago. In it were no less than 3 counter-tenors, led by David Daniels as Caesar. Daniels was then arguably the finest singer in that genre. He and his partner were married in 2014 with Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsburg officiating. Counter-tenors almost invariably have a relatively shortish career if only because there are not so many roles for that voice. So it was not surprising that he also took up a teaching post as Professor of Voice at the University of Michigan Music School. Not only was he caught on a gay dating app offering students $300 for blow jobs, on a guest engagement with the Houston Opera in 2019, he and his partner were accused of drugging and raping a young singer. 3 months ago both pleaded guilty to sexual assault. The career of a once great singer is now dead.

Great for those flying from west to east. A bit of a pain for those in cramped economy flying from east to west since flight times will be very considerably longer. Bugger! Interesting part of the article is at the end. In 2020 a British Airways 747 gained the record with a JFK/LHR time of just under 5 hours! In the time between reaching cruising altitude and starting its descent, there would have hardly been time to enjoy a couple of drinks!

Purely for clarification, Michael Gove goes by one of the strangest government ministerial titles ever invented - Minister of State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities. Unsurpriginly it was Boris Johnson who was kicked out as Prime Minster who came up with that one! Stella Braverman is the hugely unpopular right-wing Home Secretary.

There is one other issue from that article in the OP which , I think, suggests that the writer really does not know a great deal about present-day Hong Kong. Later in the article it states - "In an effort to arrest the [nightlife] decline, the Hong Kong government has launched a “Night Vibes” campaign featuring bazaars at three waterfront areas, splurged millions on a recent fireworks show to celebrate China’s National Day . . ." It then goes on to add there have been - "security concerns over the use of fireworks." This last comment is utter b/s! As far as splurging millions on a "recent" fireworks display, the fact is that massive fireworks displays have been a regular feature in Hong Kong since 1982. They always cost millions, are arguably the most elaborate ever seen anywhere, and started as a way of celebrating Chinese New Year. This continues, but a second mega-display was added in 1997 as part of the celebrations of the handover. This has continued every year since then. It has absolutely nothing to do with recent government actions! As for there being less people on the streets and in nightlife venues, that is no doubt true. But, as the writer belatedly points out in the article, Hong Kong's reaction to covid was almost the most stringent on the planet. The city was all but closed down for 3 years. Hong Kong people really were afraid and inevitably this took a huge toll on all forms of nightlife. When it eventually opened its borders, the quarantine restictions were equally severe - three weeks stuck in a hotel room and a further week of monitoring. Little wonder that the tourists who always made up a decent number of those enjoying the city's nightlife were non-existent. Certainly a good number of Hong Kong people have been leaving, including both locals and some of the expat community. But the writer gets it all wrong in suggesting that the bars and the streets are all but empty a result of recent Hong Kong government legal actions. Once again this is b/s. When I was in Hong Kong in January and February, it was certainly true. But I was back in Hong Kong 4 weeks ago from a Sunday to the following Wednesday. There were plenty of people about, day and night. How many were locals and how many Chinese tourists I did not bother to find out. Shopping malls were busy especially in the evenings and my hotel was at least 80% full. I visited one gay bar where, to be fair, there were few patrons. But then gay bars never had more than a few patrons on those days. One gay friend told me they were packed as usual on Friday and Saturday nights. With work the following day, a Thursday was never quite as bustling! The one area which has seen a drop in patrons during week-days is Soho, but this used to be largely an expat haunt. If Hong Kong has been "dozing" according to the writer, it is certainlly waking up again.

The more I reflect on China and Hong Kong's histories, the more I respect Deng. Naturally the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre blots his copybook big time, but even there I think he was to a certain extent hoodwinked by the hardliners who had worked so efficiently behind the scenes to remove his reformer proteges from their various positions of power and installed hard-liners like the dreadful Li Peng as Prime Minster. It is acknowledged now that Li was the leader of that incident. As with the current President whose father was a moderate reformer, Li had amost a similar upbringing. His father had been executed by Chiang Kai-shek's Kuomintang. He was then adopted by Mao's No. 2, Zhou En-lai, and his wife. As more and more of the history becomes known, Zhou himself was very much a moderating influence on Mao's increasingly mad schemes. So how is it that these two, Xi Jinping and Li Peng, brought up in relatively reform-minded moderate households turned out to become such hard-line extremists? A question for another day. Back to Deng. Another of his famous phrases was uttered in early 1979. Hong Kong investors, increasingly Chinese who had taken over many of the old British trading companies, were concerned about 1997. They wanted some guaratees that if they continued to invest in Hong Kong enterprises, they would still be able to make sizeable profits. If the Chinese took over the economy in 1997, the deadline for making those profits was fast approaching. So Hong Kong's governor, the much respected and admired Sir Murray MacLehose, a Scot who had spent many years in several posts in China including a spell at the Beijing Embassy and who spoke fluent Mandarin, made a trip to meet Deng in Beijing. He returned with Deng's words which he proclaimed in the media. "Tell Hong Kong investors to put their hearts at ease. It doesn't matter if the cat is black or white, as long as it catches the mice" At the time this was interpreted as giving the green light to investors, that post 1997 Hong Kong would still be a centre where they could make big profits. In other words, Deng's Beijing was far more interested in the economy of Hong Kong continung to prosper than in imposing a political ideology. This was unlike Shanghai in 1951 when Mao, having first all but begged investors and busineses to stay, then turned turned his ire on wealthy capitalists resulting in virtually all businesses fleeing to Hong Kong. Deng was a visionary but very far from perfect. He never liked titles and unlike many of his top Party colleagues, when he stepped down from power in 1989, he held on to just one: Chairman of the China Bridge Association.

I cannot recall your post about the purge and when it happened. The fact is that Thai boys have been leaving the go-go bars to be replaced by others from neighbouring countries for a considerable number of years. I guess the purge @vinapu refers to is something that happened post the government's Social Order campaigns at the start of the 2000s because I do not recall many boys being non-Thais even for a few years after that time. I do remember, though, (I'm guessing around 2008-10) there was a lot of chatter in Dick's Cafe about a very handsome young Vietnamese who worked in a beer bar (Scorpion?) a little futher up the Soi. But for whatever reason he was not affable! On the other hand, the gradually booming economy made working in other jobs more attractive to many of the upcountry lads who were the usual recruiting ground for go-go bar boys. And my guess is that barring a desperate slide in the economy, bars will continue having to rely mostly on non-Thais.

Hong Kong airport has been using this technology since at least the start of the year. Perhaps becase it is so relatively new, on my three visits this year so far, I find it actually slows down what used to be a very fast system (especially for those with HK Permanent Identity cards). From observing just a few passengers, some tourists seem to have a problem with spectacles, others with inserting their identity documents the correct way at the first 'station'. It's also been in use in Taipei when exiting the country since pre covid. For some reason, at Taoyuan airport the whole process works much faster.

Daytime temperatures in Bangkok's 'winter season' very rarely fall below around 28. It will be a little cooler in the evenings and can drop down 4 or 5 degrees. Chiang Mai is certainly cooler, especially in the evenings when you will almost certainly need a sweater. As @reader's article points out, much depends on China. If it is below freezing in Beijing, the winter monsoon will ensure that some of those cold winds will extend down as far as Thailand leading to cooler weather. I was once having a short vacation in Hua Hin bewteen Christmas and New Year when it was pretty cool just lying by the pool. But the winter monsoon can blow in at any time. I recall one late November spell in Hong Kong, normally one of the loveliest months weather-wise, when daytime temperatures dropped to what felt like a bitterly cold 12 degrees. Check what is happening temperature-wise in Beijing in the winter period and you can be sure this will have some effect on Thailand a few days later.

Hong Kong is still reeling from the law brought in by its Chinese masters 3 years ago. This effectively gives the Chinese-appointed Hong Kong government (yes, I know it's elected but only by an elite group from a small slate of candidates all approved by Beijing) even greater powers than those in China itself regarding subversion, terrorism and colluding with foreign powers. It's known as the "love China" law and extends right down into schools and publishing companies. As I have recently discovered, all books about Hong Kong, past and present, must now be censored prior to publication and certain words, phrases and events can not be included. Having initially failed in its duty to protect the citizens of Hong Kong by denying Chinese holding the British National Overseas Passport the right of abode in Britain prior to 1997 - an event which one political commentator of the time claimed would have been the single best boost the British economy could ever have - in 2020 Britain reversed course and opened its doors to those very same citizens. As of December last year more than 150,000 had taken up the new visa rights leading to Hong Kong's first fall in total population for many decades. Now it seems the UK has learned from China. An article in today' Observer newspaper states the deeply unpopular Conservative government has drawn up plans to broaden the definition of extremism to anyone who undermines its institutions and values. "The proposals have provoked a furious response from civil rights groups with some warning it risks 'criminalising dissent', and would significantly suppress freedom of expression. "One Whitehall official said: 'The concern is that this is a crackdown on freedom of speech. The definition is too broad and will capture legitimate organisations and individuals.' . . . "The documents state: 'Extremism is the promotion or advancement of any ideology which aims to overturn or undermine the UK’s system of parliamentary democracy, its institutions and values.' "Martin Bright, editor-at-large, Index on Censorship, added: 'This is an unwarranted attack on freedom of expression and would potentially criminalise every student radical and revolutionary dissident. It has never been the British way to arrest people for thought crime.'” https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/04/plans-to-redefine-extremism-would-include-undermining-uk-values

Why?

Quite by chance I came across this rather fascinating short film highlighting the difference between the ease with which homosexuals mixed in London in the 1930s compared to the much stricter climate that existed in the 1950s. It was made by London Weekend Television in 1981 and inevitably considers homosexual men as of that time. The video explains why views on homosexuals changed as the works of sexologists like Freud slowly began to seep outside academia after the Second World War. The word "homosexual" became much better known, along with such terms as inverts and perversion. Very quickly the public would become obsessed with the idea of dangerous effeminate homosexuals corrupting those around them. With spies like Guy Burgess being known homosexuals, the idea of homosexuals also being traitors mutiplied. In 1954 police arrested ten times more homosexual men than in the 1930s. So those interviewed in the film regard the 1930s in a much more favourable light.

Little wonder that Changi is consistently at the top of airport rankings. Whereas most major international airports are boring and make one long to get on to the flight, Changi offers a great deal to keep passengers interested and enjoyed, particularly if you have spend some transit time there. Hardly surprising that Hamad Airport in Doha has been taking a lot of tips from Changi, especially in developing a garden-like atmosphere.