PeterRS

I just read that long post which I think @zombie will have picked up from Sawtdee.com. I was also concerned about some of the financial issues raised in @macaroni21's post above. I believe Circus took over 5 years ago. For the purchase price of premises to drop from Bt. 14 million to Bt. 4 million in 5 years surely tells potential customers a lot of what they ought to know. Mind you, to be fair the Circus years coincided with covid and so understandably there will have been a major drop in customers during that time. Competition in the soi has also increased, but when Telephone was sold there were almost as many bars and other venues in the soi. However, a drop of Bt. 10 million in the purchase price surely indicates there is more to these figures that needs to be investigated.

What a shame! I met several lovely guys using those phones, even though I sometimes had a concern that after they saw me they'd just put the phone down. 🤪

The Jomtien Parade sounds more like the massive Pride Parade held annually in Taipei at the end of October each year. That was started many years ago and continues to be run by a grass roots organisation of individuals rather than commercial concerns.

I can recall when Circus in its original guise as Telephone Bar opened. It was a fabulous bar with great staff and a great gimmick - the phones. Many customers used those phones to try and make introductions to guys they might otherwise have been too timid to approach. I met one of the barmen in London after he had moved to work in a Thai restaurant there a few years after opening and then in another Bangkok restaurant when he returned home. Each time he not only remembered me, he remembered my name. I got the impression the bar began to go downhill after its early decades.

The original offer only mentions "lease position". Almost certainly the only people who know what is happening re leases in that soi is the family at the end that owns it.

Dead? Perhaps you forgot that you awoke it! And I am nobody's fool. Happiness does not align with death, often gruesome, ghastly deaths.

Chocolate makers? Lots of countries make wonderful chocolate, most recently to my knowledge Oman. Belgium is a beautiful country, but you are indeed immature if you think writing on an English chat site in French is anything but totally childish and ridiculous.

You might take your own suggestion seriously and be a happier person!

Maybe Canadian - but it really doesn't matter. Since you sometimes - not always - elect to write in a language not the language of this Board when you also write in other posts perfectly good English you are being both childish and silly!

Given your earlier posts, that's a highly unlikely thought!

And as you have shown in your Escort in Prague post just 3 hours ago, you write perfectly well in English. Like a native Englih speaker, in fact. Quit the cute childishness!

So youwrite perfectly well in English. Therefore quit the extremely childish and silly behaviour of writing in French. It makes your contributions completely tiresome and boring!

Plus you trashed the owner and his establishment on this Board, the very readers who visit Seoul who could have been his next customers. Now you may well have put them off. How do you plan to compensate the owner for any losses caused by your tantrum resulting from your own tardiness?

Once again you pettily write in French on an English-writen site! Some people never seem to learn!

This is an English written site - not a French one.

This is a site written in English. If you cannot write in English, go to a translation site before you post - please!

And @Suckrates response immediatey above is assinine!

Lots of Indians to be seen in Bangkok, many in the up-market shopping malls carrying designer goods bags. Recently in Paragon, Em Quartier and even Terminal 21 we have seen many Indians. Most are couples or in small groups.

WIth all due respect there is no "normal" time of being late. We are either on time or we are late. Being in a foreign country many of us have a tendency to believe that what goes for "being late" with constant updates on timing is the same as in our own country. We also assume that the English language in all its complexity is as well understood as we think it is. Neither is! Then there is the traffic issue. I do not know how @12is12 planned to arrive by his appointed hour - the one he proposed at the outset. Did he consider first using Seoul's excellent subway system at least close to his destination? DId he just assume that the horrendous traffic in the city which he must have observed particularly as rush hour arrives would merit a car ride and still enable him to arrive on time? Did he consider leaving earlier? Did he consider that Korean society has a very different set of manners and obligations compared to those in his home country? Clearly not, for he would then definitely not have walked out. Sorry, but I still regard his actions as unbecoming and rude by any tourist in any gay establishment in any foreign city, particularly an Asian one.

Many Chinese tourists have been put off by what they regard as Thailand's bad reputation for violence and tragedies like ferry boat disasters. I do not have access to statistics - I am sure @Moses does - but from what i read, Vietnam is now one of the favoured destination for less well-off Chinese.

I cannot imagine any Day recognizing the sacrifice of so many as "happy". And although the USA may regard the day as being one honouring the sacrifice of its own citizens, it is I suggest pertinent to recognize that tens of millions all over the world sacrificed their lives in defence of precisely what those brave American man and women died fighting for. I accept that other countries have their own armistice day. Is it not time for one world day when all who died worldwide are honoured?

I notice @Keithambrose gave this post a "sad" emoji. His personal opinion and to which he is perfectly entitled. But if anyone has a responsbility in his profession for being on time, I imagine it would be the one he practices. I am reasonably sure that judges have somewhat strong language for lawyers being late for court!

Grindr worked well for me.

@a-447 will loathe this vdo (understandably given his preference stated in another recent vdo post) as well as I imagine quite a few others. But cruising youtube I found another vdo, this time about a new Bangkok cruise bar i had never heard of before, Boy Camp. It's in the Silom area, has a policy of your stripping down to your underwwear (clothes bags with names are left at the counter), is of medium size and with music at a tolerable level. As the very camp narrator says, it's a bit like midway between G.O.D. and DJ Station. It also has a cruising area upstairs with a dark room at the end which is not as dark as some - in that you can make out faces and bodies.But the usual dark room activity goes on. The narrator says it's more Asian-oriented. I wonder if any poster has been and can post his experience.

An issue made in the OP is one everyone should consider. If an appointment is made to suit an individual client, it is as much the responsibility of that client to be on time as it is the service provider. Regular messaging updates about bad traffic is hardly an excuse, the more so when the appointment time is at rush hour. And this is as true in Seoul where the traffic is horrendous, as it is in many other major Asian cities. Surely the OP could have got himself to a coffee shop, hotel or at least somewhere hear the massage spa in advance so as to be on time for the appointment he himself had made? Trusting what is assumed to be an agreement by a phone operator in Seoul about bad traffic is, as the client discovered, of little use. To offer to pay only two thirds when it was the client who was late was demeaning, especially in a very Confucian society. And then just to walk out even more so.