PeterRS

Years ago in Tokyo I had a meeting with the head of Rolex and the executive of a different company. The Rolex guy complemented the other on his new shiny Rolex! It was a fake! Even the boss could not tell. I have never liked Rolex watches - too chunky and obvious. Many years ago when i left one company i knew the Board would not give me a leaving present. So i decided to get one for myself. I had always loved the classic Patek Philippe watch with the simplest of dials and a dimpled gold surround (no lonoger made, I believe). When I checked, the price was then US$5,000. End of the dream. Then I realised: what is the point of a classic watch? If worn every day, I'd no doubt drop it on the beach at weekends. If not worn every day, it needs three-yearly maintenance at very considerable cost. So I wore Swatch watches for several years!

Fires in a sauna are surely exceedingly rare. In Tokyo on Monday two were trapped inside one and died. It appears to have been a chapter of disasters. A faulty door knob, fire alarms switches that had been switched off for two years, and a burnt towel that it is assumed had caught fire when accidentally touching the hot sauna stones. Worth checking all in future visits. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c14v5625l8eo

And a host of others makers. Although many do not actually make the watches; they only put their names on them. There are several watchmakers in Switzerland making for a variety of customers. Many years ago my (wealthy) brother asked if I could bring him and his wife a pair of fake Rolexes. I did so. As both were working there was usually no one in their large house during the daytime. One afternoon my sister-in-law had to return to the house for something she had forgotten. On entering she heard a noise upstairs. Beijing a somewhat feisty lady, she shouted up "Who's there?" By the time she got up to the bedroom, the thieves had disappeared out of a window. Checking for what might be missing she noticed that only the fake Rolexes had been stolen. She chuckled at the thought of their trying to pawn worthless trinkets and expecting to get a few thousand $$s.

Interesting to know why ads are being put out now at the start of the high season and I hope regulars may be prepared to comment. Might it be because staff have migrated to other bars? Are staff leaving the business altogether?

Thank you @Moses. I much appreciate your comments.

I wonder if it really is sloppy thinking as opposed to bad upbringing, especially in schools. How to converse is as important as how to behave in public - and neither seems to be taught in schools any more.

The favourite story about the Queen Mother is that she genuinely had a soft spot for gay men. Most of her household servants were gay. One day having woken from her afternoon nap and slightly annoyed that her tipple had not arrived, she went to the balcony and shouted down, "I don't know about you queens down there but this old queen is still waiting for her drink."

In this case, i am sorry but that is rubbish! Why should two posters deserve a spanking when all one has done is report percisely what was written in the media and the other has called him out for being a liar? Sometimes your sitting on the fence is misplaced! I have never doubted @unicorn's qualifications. I myself am from a very medical family as I have pointed out here before. My grandfather, father, all my uncles, brother, sister, niece and two of my cousins are members of the medical profession and my late brother-in-law was in charge of a hospital for the mentally challenged. I have nothing but praise for those working in the profession. But I will not have one poster call me a liar when it is perfectly plain that i did no such thing!

Mention of Jeffrey Dahmer reminds me that the police who returned the 14-year old naked Laotian boy to him should have been jailed for failing to do their jobs. Was anyone even admonished? Nope! The three ladies who had reported the matter to the police had drawn their attention to blood on several parts of the teenager's body. They were furious that no action was taken.

Oh please do not be so silly and please do not put words into my posts. I reported what has been reported in the media with comments made by Mr. And Mrs. Reiner. I did not make them up - and you failed to point out that I had stated very clearly in my first line "not because it is my own view - not in the slightest." But you jump on the bandwagon and tell the Board that I know better than professionals. Grow up, please!

With 15 now dead, this has reminded me of the much larger massacre of another group of people in Sydney, this time belonging to the LGBT community. Roughly from the mid-1970s to the late-1990s, it is estimated that 88 gay men were murdered and an untold number of others assaulted in various part of Sydney, including Marks Park very close to Bondi Beach. Marks Park was a favoured meeting ground for gay men and many were murdered by being thrown off the cliff. Several gay-hating gangs were reported to be involved. There existed in Sydney at the time a serious attitude of homophobia. Homosexuality was only decriminalised in New South Wales in 1984 just as the AIDS pandemic swept the country. For years the NSW police had been arresting anyone suspected of being gay. That did not change with the change in the law and there remained within the police force the view that all gay men were criminals. Thus the investigation into the gay murders was half-hearted at best. Only a few culprits were ever brought to justice. The Bondi Memorial 'Rise' artwork in Marks Park with the names of the known dead within the stonework (for it is suspected that at least 30 were never reported) commemorates these dark days of Sydney's gay past.

I'm always curous! Although I have had some not pleasant ding-dongs with @Moses (partly my fault, I admit), I would appreciate his advice if he wishes to give it. I haven't been to Moscow since 2011. As mentioned in a thread yesterday, for part of that visit I was at a Conference and we were housed at the lovely Swissotel. It has a circular bar at the top from which you can see many of the city's landmarks. On two evenings, three colleagues and I (all but one gay) spent quite lovely evenings in that bar. Our waiter was a beautiful slim Russian named Pavel and it seemed he twigged quite quickly that we were a gayish crowd. We particularly enjoyed watching the antics of the young barmen who were all equally handsome and superb at their job. Pavel told us that all were from another country which I cannot now remember and one had won a bartenders' prize at some quite major competition. Watching these guys go about their work made us all think some - quite a few, in fact - were probably gay. Is that likely to be true, or is it more likely they were adopting certain western mannerisms only to make us think that? Two years later, I was with a friend in St. Petersburg - fabulous city! En route to Catherine's Palace, we noticed a lot of young guys probably in the 17-20 age range. We later realised there was a stop at a nearby Technical College. They were laughing and having a good time. Two even stood up to give us their seats (both of us having grey hair - but in 25 years of living in Bangkok this has happened to me only twice!) Although my companion on that trip was a lady, two of the students seemed - and perhaps this was merely wishful thinking - to be looking at me rather intently. When they left the carriage, both looked round at me. The impression I had was that both might have been gay. On that trip we had got an amazing deal at a 5-star hotel on Nevsky Prospekt. Serving in the Executive Lounge was a gorgeous looking young man who told me he was 18 and only worked part-time to save up for a laptop computer. His English was amazingly good and I spent an entire afternoon just chatting with him - and also admiring his uniform which had rather tight-fitting pants! He gave me an idea of some places to visit which are not on the usual itineraries, one of which was just a rather lovely park. I had visions of his being gay and spending a night in my large room, but of course that would have been totally out of the question. I never even found out if he was gay. Probably not, but I made sure he had a handsome tip to put towards the purchase of his computer! So my question is: is it usual for young gay men to be attracted to service jobs in Russia?

Don't you realise it's just a bit of fun - not a course in English dialects or syllable counts? You could have added that Madras no longer exists. But fitting Chennai into the limerick doesn't quite work!

Agreed. Honeker was an ultra-strict harliner and his regime in East Germany was arguably harsher on the people than any in the western communist bloc, with the exception of the loathed Ceausescu in Romania. In this respect he followed almost exactly his predecessor, the staunch Leninist Walter Ulbricht. Ubricht's first job was to call in Soviet troops to put down a widespread uprising. For whatever reason, he twice made it on to the cover of TIME magazine, once around the start of his regime which the west assumed might be relatively liberal, and once when the Wall had just gone up and the country locked down. His attempts to build a Stalinist state failed miserably leading to mass migration to West Berlin. Hence his decision to build the Wall and shoot anyone trying to escape. Increasingly he failed to follow Moscow's directives. He was finally forced out of office in 1971 and replaced by his fellow dictator Honecker. He died two years later. Although the Wall was not built under his regime, Honecker was given responsibility for it and was exceedingly proud of what he had achieved. Yet, like his predecessor, we should recall that by the time he departed Germany, Honecker was a very sick man. He was suffereing from liver cancer. Arrested in 1990, he was released when his medical condition became known. He was quickly spirited to Moscow where he could not be touched by the Arrest Warrant issued in West Berlin. He was in fact brought back to Berlin in July 1992 to face 75 criminal charges and put on trial. It was in January 1993 that he was released on medical grounds and permitted to fly to Chile. A very sick man, he died the following year. Although it is thought he lived a normal life after his ouster, it was in fact very different. For him it must have been a miserable few years. He would have been better off suffering the fate of Ceausescu - capture by his own people three days after fleeing in a helicopter and shot.

With much regret I am indeed hinting this. But not because it is my own view - not in the slightest. It was what Rob Reiner said many times in a considerable number of interviews. He stated that he and his wife took their son to endless doctors, psychiatrists or whoever they believed qualified and thereafter took their words as gospel. Thus they meted out what he called "tough love" whereas, he also stated, instead he should have listened to and acted on his feelings as a parent. Rob also said that he didn’t listen to Nick as much as he should have while the family was battling Nick’s addiction. “The program works for some people, but it can’t work for everybody. When Nick would tell us that it wasn’t working for him, we wouldn’t listen. We were desperate,” Rob said in the LA Times interview. “And because the people [at rehabs] had diplomas on their wall, we listened to them when we should have been listening to our son.” https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/story/rob-reiner-nick-reiner-movie-being-charlie?srsltid=AfmBOorJxXBVojORU-7j9UUGEdTFYsZB8DgNefAVgSEMIR1OT1q5QNIr Michelle Reiner in another interview echoed her husband's views Michele said: “We were so influenced by these people. They would tell us he’s a liar, that he was trying to manipulate us. And we believed them.” https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/rob-reiner-nick-reiner-kill-home-1236451409/