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So, for Litvinenko's case they can, and for Skripal's they can't? Why? I give you answer: they know - they have no proof. They have no one direct evidence. 2 agents of GRU walking by streets of Salisbury - all their evidence. We already know, what to be agent of secret service isn't crime. And to walk by streets of Salisbury isn't crime as well. That's bullshit: Skripal never been pardoned. He was just swapped. And now next question: Why UK doesn't have direct evidence? Why do they prove it with cameras from ATMs and stores? Skripal was under state protection, which means that his home should have been under constant surveillance by agents and cameras. How did it happen that no one recorded the fact of the crime itself - the application of poison to the door knob?
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If here is proof of their guilty, why then there is no court decision? For me British version of case is just political speculation. Skripal was arrested in 2004, court decision issued in 2006. Only in 2010 he was exchanged. Russia had pretty much time to make his "hearth attack" in the prison - 6 years. After exchange he lived in UK 8 years. There was no reason for Russia to wait 8 years. My version: Skripal was "discharged" by MI5 or MI6 after he told all what he knew and became useless, while UK was in need "to pay" to Russia for extermination of Litvinenko by polonium right in the center of London, after which UK secret services lost face. British laboratory which works with Novichok is located just in 15 miles from Salisbury. It was good opportunity to discharge useless double agent and to make troubles to Russians, and MI5 or MI6 used it. Unfortunately for them Skripal survived. P.S. Sutyagin, who was swapped together with Skripal in 2010, still living in UK and even working for UK and NATO. P.P.S. In early October 2018, British journalist Mark Urban published a book, The Skripal File, which, based on several interviews with Skripal himself, indicated that Skripal supported Russia's annexation of Crimea and Putin's policy towards Ukraine, and did not believe that Russia had poisoned him. https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/mark-urban/the-skripal-files/9781529006926
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In "live television in Russia" they told what they were in Salisbury as tourists. And UK has NO any proof of any other facts. I'm sure you know that. To be officer of secret service isn't criminal. Otherwise half of staff of UK embassy in Moscow should be arrested.
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If you said so, or yellow tabloid, or politician - it means zero. If court said so, then it may be fact. Unless court said so - it is speculation. Political speculation to demonize Russia. There is no any proof, what visit of two "maybe GRU officers" and Sripal's case are linked. These "maybe officers" may had any mission from blowing up secret chemical laboratory in 15 miles from Salisbury to meeting with some Russian agents in the region. Their guilt isn't confirmed by any court. Just reminder: after poisoning of Livinenko by polonium, guilt of Lugovoy was confirmed by British court. After case with Skripal there is no court decision. Russia had no reason to kill Skripal in the UK – unlike Litvinenko, who fled to the UK, Skripal spent almost 6 years in Russian prisons before leaving Russia legally in a prisoner swap with the UK. It is too complicated for Russia to wait 6 years and then release him, and then wait another 8 years to hunt him in a foreign country, rather than simply causing an “accident” in a Russian prison. Occam’s razor says no.
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By the way: British proof "highly likely" still not confirmed by decision of any court... Strange...
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I note nobody here "did not attempt to defend": Coup in Kiev in 2013/14 Bombing of Luhansk by Kiev regime on June 2, 2014 Ban on Russian language as second official Closure of Russian schools Closure of Russian medias, TV and radio Violation of the Minsk-1 agreement by Ukraine Violation of the Minsk-2 agreement by Ukraine
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When an opponent runs out of arguments, he starts discussing his opponent... nothing new.
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Me? Defending? I'm simply showing that Russia does nothing that its current accusers haven't done. And that all the cries in Western propaganda demonizing Russia are just politics, because those who shout have repeatedly done what Russia is doing now and what all human civilization has been doing throughout its history. Do you know, how many countries didn't participate in a single military conflict since signing of UN Charter? 5 (five) as per ChatGPT: Iceland Costa Rica San Marino Vatican Liechtenstein War is not a crime, but an extreme political measure, common to all states on this planet. And fact that Russia has been trying to solve the problem peacefully for 8 years - through diplomacy and treaties - says a lot "pro" Russia. And good-natured ponies galloping across a rainbow are just fantasy.
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Israel has about 100+ IJC court decisions about Israeli actions. Do you want to discuss it now? At past 50 years 1983 – Grenada → US invasion, overthrow of Marxist government. 1989 – Panama → US invasion, overthrow of Manuel Noriega. 1990 – Kuwait → Iraqi invasion, overthrow of Emir Jabir al-Sabah's government. 2001 – Afghanistan → US and allied invasion, overthrow of Taliban government. 2003 – Iraq → US and UK invasion, overthrow of Saddam Hussein's government. 2011 – Libya → NATO intervention supported rebellion, fall of Muammar Gaddafi's regime. maybe you want to discuss these cases and "UN Charter"?
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That IJC on which US yesterday announced sanctions? Oh, sorry, it was ICC 😎
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It makes sense for you to decide: either Putin dreams of the USSR and the power of the Soviets, as you claimed 5 minutes ago, or of the restoration of the Russian Empire. Just for information, otherwise, maybe they forgot to tell you that it was the Soviets who destroyed the Russian Empire. And you lumped the Empire and the Soviets together and attributed it to Putin.
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USSR was country of one party. This party is forbidden in Russia. Also, here is forbidden by constitution any state ideology. So it is not possible to restore USSR. USSR was county of soviets - collective decisions. But Putin isn't person who prefers collective decisions. So words "dreams about USSR" are as naive as are words about "flourish Ukraine".
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Without coup in 2014 war would not happened. So, now you know source of all problems - inspired by West nationalistic coup in Kiev.
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By the way: Ukraine just shoot own leg - it bombed and destroyed tonight oil pipeline "Friendship" by which Slovakia and Hungary received about 80% of oil, and that oil was exemption from EU and US sanctions because it is vital for these countries. Since now Ukraine may forget about membership in EU and NATO - Slovakia and Hungary will veto it.
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Nobody cares about their political views. Putin cares about unfriendly actions. So makes problems for unfriendly govts. Fico in Slovakia is also Social democrat and has no problems with Russia and Putin. "Social democrats" label do not grants indulge, you know?
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Sure, why not? If it helps to make problems for his enemies.
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It sounds very naive and stupid. One of most corrupted countries in world. In 2021 Ukraine first time after coup got GDP which it already had in 2008 and in 2013.
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double glitch
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double glitch
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double glitch
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Nobody likes Nazi here besides Nazi themselves. Before 2014, such people mostly either "accidentally died" or sat in prison. After the coup in Ukraine in 2014, they fled to Ukraine. List of most known far right activists from Sankt-Petersburg: Dmitry Bobrov. Leader of the organization "Schulz-88". Arrested in 2003. He was charged with creating an extremist community. In 2005, he was sentenced to 6 years in prison. Taking into account the time spent in pre-trial detention, he was released in 2009. He was twice sentenced to imprisonment under Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "incitement of hatred and enmity". Dmitry Borovikov (Kisly). He was wanted in the "Mad Crowd" case. On May 18, 2006, he was killed during his arrest by police officers. Alexey Voevodin (SVR). Leader of the "Combat Terrorist Organization" of Voevodin-Borovikov. He was also one of the leaders of the extremist community "Mad Crowd", was convicted on December 14, 2005 for participating in it. On June 14, 2011, the St. Petersburg City Court sentenced him to life imprisonment. He is the author of the text "My War", included in the Federal List of Extremist Materials under number 1159. On September 13, 2016, while in the Polar Owl colony, he killed a cellmate. Ruslan Melnik. Dmitry Bobrov's right hand, after leaving "Schulz-88" he headed the group of ultra-right football hooligans "Mad Crowd". He was arrested in 2006. At the time of his arrest, he had already been on the international wanted list for several years on charges of creating an extremist community and inciting ethnic hatred. In February 2013, he was arrested for participating in a gang that robbed banks of more than 300 million rubles. In 2016, he was sentenced to 15 years in prison. Alexey Vostroknutov (Alex). At the trial of the "Schulz-88" case, he was acquitted by the court due to lack of evidence. He died after falling from a roof on August 16, 2011 in St. Petersburg. He was buried covered with a flag with a swastika. Taras Muzalev. He was arrested on October 29, 2007 for participating in organizing a terrorist act - an attempt to blow up the St. Petersburg "Rox Club" during the "Music of Streets" music festival on October 13, 2007, when a cloth bag with a homemade explosive device was thrown onto the stage during a concert of the Swedish rock band "Blisterhead". He was sentenced to 2.5 years in a general regime penal colony. Vladimir Razhev. He died in an accident on September 13, 2012 in St. Petersburg. Alexandra (nickname Dara) - creator and moderator of the fan site "Schulz-88" in 2004-2006. Died in April 2013 at the age of 29. Andrey Malyugin - joined the gang of Borovikov and Voevodin, was acquitted by the jury. Subsequently sentenced to 12 years for the murder of a Korean.
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Bullshit. It is march in Sankt Petersburg ultra-right organization National Socialist Initiative in 2014. This organization was created around 2011 when jailed 6 years for creation neo-nazi organization Dmitry Bobrov got freedom from prison and again created neo-nazi organization. Just in a week after that "show" again was opened crime case and on September 16, 2015, the St. Petersburg City Court recognized the organization “People’s (National) Social (Socialist) Initiative” as extremist and banned it. As everywhere in world, from time to time far right movements appear here as well. The main difference with Ukraine and Russia is what here, in Russia such movements are banned very fast, while in Ukraine state supports them. For example Sege Korotkih. Formerly leader of Russian nationalist organization National Socialist Society. Organization was banned in 2010, and in 2014 Korotkih ran from Russia to... Ukraine. In Ukraine he joined to ultra-right wing and then was one of creators Nazi battalion Azov. And got Ukrainian citizenship from first "after coup" president Poroshenko. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Korotkikh Ukraine is shelter for Nazi.
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This is billboard on the West of Ukraine, 2021. Agitation to subscribe to army. In Ukrainian language there is written "Yesterday - they. Today you. 80 years since the Battle of Brody"
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Marching Nazi. On the banner in Ukrainian language is written "14th grenadier division Galicia". 14th division "Galicia" was Nazi SS division. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)
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16000 killed, yeah... "no systematic"... 2 millions refugees from the east of Ukraine ran to Russia... 8 years Russia did everything by diplomatic way for to stop this: there were "Minsk-1" agreement, "Minsk-2" agreement. Both broken by Ukraine. There were: ban of Russian language on TV, in the films, in newspapers and medias, seizure Russian books, from Pushkin to Dovlatov. There was closure of Russian schools. There was ban of Russian Orthodox Church. Naming streets and avenues by name of Nazi criminals. Nazi marshes by Kiyev streets. Last drop - including in Ukrainian constitution point about NATO membership . And everything above mentioned was before February 2022. What they wanted - that they got.