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  1. Back from Songkran and, honestly, still slightly dazed. If you’ve done Bangkok before, you think you know what’s coming. You don’t. This year felt… bigger. Denser. As if the city inhaled and then forgot to exhale. Silom, in particular, tipped over into something close to myth. One day had to be shut down entirely because the crowds simply became unmanageable. Not “busy”, not “packed”, properly overrun. Water, bodies, music, whistles, foam, heat. It stopped being a street and became a current you were carried along in. And the boys. OMG. Silom was thick with gleaming circuit party types, bronzed, oiled, and very aware of it. The sort of crowd that makes you stand up a little straighter, or at least consider doing a push-up later. Everywhere you looked: mesh tops, tiny shorts, water guns held like accessories rather than weapons. It felt curated, but not artificial. More like everyone had quietly agreed to bring their best game. Queues into the mainstays were, predictably, biblical. DJ Station and GOD had lines snaking well into the street, damp, impatient, but oddly cheerful. No one really minded. That’s part of the ritual. You queue, you flirt, you get splashed by strangers, you make temporary alliances. By the time you get inside, you already feel like you’ve been out all night. What’s changed, and what surprised me, is how much the scene has expanded. There are new venues now, not covered by the trip reports on this forum. Here are a few: Cake (bear bar) CAKE is one of those places you don’t quite notice at first… and then suddenly realise you’ve spent half the night there. Positioned as a bear bar, it fills a gap Silom didn’t quite have before. Not in the old-school, slightly tired sense, but in a way that feels deliberately warmer, more social, and a bit less performative than the usual circuit-heavy scene outside. Inside, the set-up is fairly straightforward. Compact, a bit dark, music at a level where you can still talk without shouting. The lighting is forgiving in the best possible way. It invites you in rather than putting you on display. You order a drink, you linger, you end up talking to someone. The crowd is exactly what you’d hope for: Bears, cubs, and plenty of admirers A fair number of 30s and 40s guys who look like they’ve outgrown the need to impress. Some younger visitors drifting in, curious, often staying longer than they planned. A sprinkling of circuit boys who, after a few nights of posing, seem quietly relieved to relax a bit. There’s a noticeable shift in tone compared to the rest of Silom. Less peacocking. More eye contact. People actually introduce themselves. Conversations last longer than one drink. It feels… human. During Songkran, CAKE leaned into its identity rather than competing with the madness outside. The pool party on the 13th of April was, by all accounts, exactly what you’d imagine and then a bit better. Not polished, not overly curated. Just a proper gathering. Think bodies of all shapes in the water, laughter cutting through the music, beers in hand, someone dancing a bit too enthusiastically, someone else cheering them on. Less about spectacle, more about participation. You could feel the contrast with the main Silom strip. Outside: hyper-toned, high-gloss, slightly intimidating. Inside CAKE: softer edges, easier smiles, a bit of mischief, a bit of flirtation that doesn’t take itself too seriously. It’s also one of the few places where you see generations mixing without tension. A guy in his early 30s chatting comfortably with someone in his late 40s. No hierarchy. No obvious social sorting. Just people… being there. Boy Camp This one deserves a proper mention because it signals where Silom is heading, not where it’s been. Boy Camp sits right in the middle of the action on Soi 2, but it doesn’t feel like a legacy venue. It feels new. Slightly more curated. Slightly more aware of itself. And very much built for the current generation of Asian gay nightlife. Physically, it’s a multi-level party bar with a compact but high-energy layout. Think three floors stacked vertically, each getting progressively more intense as you go up. Downstairs is more social, transitional space. Middle level starts to pulse. Upstairs is where it tips into full party mode. Music leans heavily into K-pop, Asian pop, and circuit-adjacent beats, which gives it a distinct flavour compared to the more Western-heavy playlists at DJ Station. The crowd reflects that shift. You get a lot of: Younger Asian guys, particularly Thai, Korean, Taiwanese Well-groomed, fashion-aware, slightly softer aesthetic than the classic circuit muscle crowd Groups of friends rather than lone cruisers A noticeable social-media polish… but still playful, not overly cold There’s a kind of “idol energy” to the place. Not intimidating, but very visually tuned. People here know how they look under lighting. What’s interesting is that Boy Camp isn’t primarily about cruising or even heavy drinking. It’s about energy, movement, and group dynamics. People dance in clusters. They flirt in waves rather than one-on-one. There’s a sense of collective rhythm rather than individual hunting. Compared to older Silom venues: Less chaotic than GOD Less chaotic but more curated than DJ Station Less transactional than the go-go style places historically tied to the Patpong area During Songkran, it becomes something else entirely. The street spills into the venue and the venue spills back into the street. You get soaked boys coming in, drying off, then going straight back out again. Water guns abandoned at the entrance. Shirts half-buttoned or gone entirely. The lighting hits wet skin in a way that feels almost staged. And because the crowd skews slightly younger and more Asian, the aesthetic shifts from “circuit brute” to something more sleek, agile, almost choreographed. Less about size, more about lines. Less about dominance, more about presence. If DJ Station is the institution and GOD is the pressure cooker, then Boy Camp is the new language Silom is learning. And judging by the queues forming outside it this Songkran, it’s a language people are very keen to speak. By the end of it, Silom felt less like a party and more like an event that briefly took over the city, something between a festival and a fever dream. Would I do it again? Absolutely.
    20 points
  2. Vessey

    Are gay Thai men faithful?

    My experience, as a holiday visitor for the last twenty years, is that yes they can be faithful; the older they are, the more likely that they can be, but let me immediately qualify that, by asking 'who are we expecting him to be faithful to?' Most young Thai boys shag like rabbits with other young Thai boys on a daily basis; they can have current Thai boyfriends but they rarely seem particularly enduring relationships. But as for us older farang boyfriends living abroad?, well that's a whole different matter. I currently have two 'boyfriends', one Laos, one Thai (who each know about the other). My Laos boyfriend I have known for about ten years now, we video-call every day, and we meet-up whenever I return to Pattaya, but we haven't had sex together for several years; he is much more of a companion now. He now talks quite candidly to me about his other three farang boyfriends; and I am aware that each of us supports him a little bit. He has just about abandoned his bar-boy job in boyztown now, and focusses instead on keeping all four of us happy by daily contact. He is over 30 now and his own sex-drive has dwindled; when he does feel horny he finds another Thai boy who will come and suck his cock, or occasionally fuck him - and he pays them to do so (500 baht manybe). But his English is just about conversational now and he is my daily contact with Pattaya, and when I am in town he is my friend and companion. My Thai boyfriend is the 'boom boom' boyfriend that I have known about six years now. In his late 20s, he is still a horny little bugger and constantly shagging other Thai boys (top or bottom) on an almost daily basis, either individually or at small alcohol fuelled 'parties'. He likes me and happily stays with me on holiday, but I know he drools over other Thai boys (not me! haha) as we are forever chatting about who he has seen that he likes. He is into threesomes with me, and effectively he uses me as an excuse to have sex with the other boys we meet in the bars that we both choose as our third (or occasionally fourth 🤣). I also use him for threesomes in that there are bar boys who will come to my room because they know that they will be having sex with him (as well as me). I fully accept that neither boy will end up pushing my wheelchair here in England in years to come; neither wants to come and live with me in England; they are both entirely happy living where they are, and why not? In Thailand they have their families, their friends, their culture, language and foods. So neither are really my boyfriends in the sense that we might traditionally understand; I am essentially a favoured customer, a status I pay for in one way or another. Of course, if I was an exPat living in Pattaya, available to see them 24/7, then my 'relationship' with either might be entirely different.
    17 points
  3. Landed last night from India. I’ll do an India post when I get home, covering the 4 cities there. Flew via Singapore Airlines and Thai Airways, both in business class. Could’ve stayed all SQ and arrived 2.5 hours earlier, but I’m leaning more toward Thai these days. The staff just feel warmer, more natural, and the catering actually has flavor. SQ has gotten Meh. Not bad, just boring. Thai’s seats and interiors are definitely showing their age (aren't we all) but I’ll take better service, better food, and Thai culture any day👍 Arrived BKK 5 minutes early, Gate C8… and yeah, the walk. Just kept going. And going. And going. By the time I got to immigration, I was bracing for the usual mess, especially with the changes to priority lanes, no Business class… and then: Empty. Not “a few people.” Empty.😳 In 27 years of coming here, I have never seen that. I had the immigration lady laughing so hard because neither of us could believe it. Wanted to take a photo just to prove it existed, but yeah… those “no photos” signs are everywhere, didn't want to ruin a good thing 😉 Hit the ATM, asked the guy to break some 1000 notes into smaller bills, he says he can only do one. I said, no no, it’s fine… you can do two. He did two.... Jedi mind tricks 😝 Luggage was out in about 30 minutes from door open to belt, thought it would be faster. The driver from Mike Taxi was waiting at Door 3 with my name. The walk from Exit B to Door 3 was another weird one… barely anyone around. Everything just felt weird/different. About 1.5 hours later, pulled into Pattaya and you could already see it: slow. Really slow. This was midnight on a Saturday and it looked like a Tuesday afternoon during low season. Checked into the Venue Hotel, unpacked, got myself together, and headed to Cocka 2. Opened a bottle, had a few drinks… but Bars closing early, low energy, barely any customers. Definitely quiet season right now. One of my regular “backup” guys hit me up on Grindr almost immediately. Said he’d be up until 4am, had zero customers all day, and hadn’t cum either… so he was motivated and horny, a good combination 🍆 (that means he was horny, not he has a big one, lol) And really, sometimes Plan B is the better plan anyway. There’s something to be said for familiarity. No explaining, no training session, he already knows what buttons to push...👉 Then I get a message from a guy I know from Soi 4 in BKK. Lost his job, needed help moving rooms. I told him, I don’t move furniture, not even for my best friends 😝. I knew what he was looking for $$$ But here’s the thing… I’ve known him for years. Never once asked me for anything. Actually he's gone out of his way for me plenty of times. We follow each other on social media, keep in touch. I was the one who reached out first to check on him after I saw his post about losing his job... He asked for 2000 baht. I told him the real proof I like him isn’t the money… it’s me going out in daylight, at the ungodly hour of 12pm, to a 7/11 to deposit it 🥺 Yes, I went outside at noon... I'll have to document this somewhere.... While I was out in that unnatural daylight, figured I’d try Sophia’s across from Dick’s. 100 baht for chicken basil with two fried eggs. Really good, and way better than Dick’s, by a mile.... And yes, that’s about 1.6 km for the non-Americans. Day 1. Slow city, empty airport, Plan B still reliable, and apparently I’m now the guy giving money and flying people between countries. Getting older… and clearly not getting smarter.... can't even follow my own advice, maybe I'll become a Top again 😳 Anyone in Pattaya who wants to meet me or avoid me , I’m heading to Bangkok Thursday. Bringing someone I met in Bali for a few days, WTF? What could possibly go wrong.... 🤷‍♂️ I’ll get to that Bali post eventually 🤞
    16 points
  4. GASS GASS is very much a late-night venue. You don’t really start your evening here, you end up here, usually after Silom has already worked you over a bit. Tucked into a more intimate space, above white rabbit bar, it feels immediately different from the larger, more chaotic clubs. Lower ceilings, tighter floor, bodies closer together. There’s a sense that the night has narrowed its focus. Less wandering, more intention. The crowd skews 20s to 30s, well put together, slightly sharper than average. Not necessarily the biggest bodies, but definitely curated, good hair, good outfits, people who’ve chosen where they are and why. There’s a quiet confidence to it. What sets GASS apart is the presence of specially invited go-go dancers. These aren’t freelancers circulating the room. They’re part of the venue’s identity, in the corners, in the light, part of the choreography of the space. You watch them, they perform, but there’s a clear line. It keeps the atmosphere focused, almost theatrical at moments, without tipping into anything transactional. Crowds are invited to participate and touch. Music leans deeper into late-night territory. Less pop, more rhythm. Something you feel in your chest rather than sing along to. The kind of sound that makes conversations shorter and eye contact longer. And that’s really the point of GASS. It’s not sprawling. It doesn’t try to be everything. It compresses the night into something more intense but still fun. You dance closer. You notice more. You stay longer than you planned.
    16 points
  5. Greetings, All! This will come as no surprise to some of you, and others may be shocked. Currently back in Bangkok and planning to be here for approximately three months. That will all depend on if my request for a 30-day visa extension is approved the end of June after the initial 60-days. I made the decision for several reasons. First, since I am retired and have no real commitments or obligations to keep me in Denver other than family, I decided there is no reason to wait until November. In addition, it is low season so not nearly as many tourists. When checking airfares, I actually found better prices now versus later in the year due to the ongoing conflict in the Middle East. Since there seems to be no end in sight and jet fuel prices are skyrocketing, airfares listed for the fall are astronomical. Of course, the single most important reason is I missed Cam and really wanted to spend some long term quality time with him. We were both anxious to spend time together sooner rather than later. We have been texting multiple times each day ever since I returned to Denver, and video call at least once a day, if not more. There was really no strong, compelling reason to wait until late in 2026. My posts will not be as often as my previous trips to Thailand, nor as detailed. Only a few select friends, immediate family, and one or two forum members know of my location. I have zero plans to see my Thai friends. There will be no visits to massage shops; no contact via Line with regulars I saw previously…including Paradise guy. I doubt we will visit any of the bars and will probably avoid Silom as much as possible. Cam made the necessary arrangements with the bar to be off during my entire visit. Thanks to forum members for setting me straight about off fees for something long term, no money was provided to Hotmale. lol. However, I did give Mamasan a nice tip to offer our thanks for his support of Cam. After I returned to Denver, Cam made the decision on his own without any prompting from me to discuss with Mamasan that he no longer wanted to go with customers for off’s, but would only go for drinks. He explained that we were together now and that he would be returning to Cambodia after my visit and I would most likely be joining him there. Mamasan agreed to that request. It only presented a problem with one customer, which speaks more about the customer’s character than anything about Cam. Customer knew from Mamasan that Cam would only go with him for a drink…nothing more. After one hour of drinking, customer decided he wanted more from Cam. Cam said ‘no’, and politely told the man he was leaving. Man would not even give Cam any money after he spent one hour with him for drinks. Cam didn’t care about the money, and left to go back to his room. So, I felt a generous tip was in order for Mamasan since he was so supportive of Cam’s decision. This trip is all about spending quality time together and getting to know each other better. We are staying in an Airbnb away from the Silom area for the duration of the trip. We have some side trips planned as well, including a trip to Pattaya and Chiang Mai for a few days. Cam has been to Pattaya one time, but really enjoys the beach so we definitely want to go there. He has never been to Chiang Mai, so that will be a new adventure. Keeping in mind Cam’s status, all of our accommodations are through Airbnb and all of our travel is via private car service. We may even do a little exploring around Bangkok and visit Ayutthaya. Cam has never really ventured outside of Silom very much and experienced other parts of the city. Again, please do not expect daily updates as I have done on my previous trips. This visit is totally different from past experiences.
    14 points
  6. Yes, a ransom ware attack. The site was restored to a previous version and all is well. Thanks for your patience.
    14 points
  7. Time to update this thread. Newest Jomtien Supertown Complex map was published 2 days prior on the gaysupertown facebook feeds: https://www.facebook.com/groups/supertowngay https://www.facebook.com/groups/gaysupertown It was published as a result of the nameless bar that is next to the Candy Bar being finally assigned a name = Jungle Boy. https://www.facebook.com/people/Jungle-Boy-Bar/ There are some other updates that are not yet reflected on the map: 1.) The Gus Bar (formerly the Club Lounge) has now been renamed = GREAT BAR The Gus Bar was previously associated with the nearby Sunee Intimate Bar. I tried to ask the guys what happened, but as is customary with the Thais my question was avoided and the topic changed. Gus Bar was one of the 2 known pillow bars in the complex. I visited the GREAT BAR the other night and I can confirm that the pillow activities are still happening - but it has less pillows (used for discretion) than the other pillow bar = M Bar has on offer. I could not find a new Facebook page for the Great Bar and the Gus Bar Facebook was still active, but the last update was last month. 2.) My Favorite Diner looks like it is about to open - soft opening activities seem to be already happening. Previously, it was reported here in our forum that the external bar that is attached to this entity (on the patio) had the name = "Bar in a Box". Perhaps that was a temporary name until the construction work on the My Favorite Diner could be completed? As the "Bar in a Box" was opened around the Songkran festivities period. https://www.facebook.com/stories/101551265603293/UzpfSVNDOjE1MjQ1MzY5MTI3OTIxNjI=/?view_single=1 3.) The Sutiyada massage shop (next to the Agate hotel - when walking towards Soda Massage) has now been taken over by Khun Best, from The Best Bar. The name of this new massage shop is = The Best Massage. 4.) Just prior to reaching the Boy GaGa bar, there are 3 new places: Narak Pets Cafe - enjoy food and drink while you relax with their pets. https://share.google/lqp7LuuynsFNO1lpO https://www.instagram.com/narakpetscafe/?e=192a07ff-4524-45de-9508-2aab3320658f&g=5 Schatzi's - still no new updates since the previous posting in this forum - however, I did see a "work in progress" web page being designed and tested for this establishment, which, if this web page is valid - it will be a restaurant, bar and also "hotel" - as there were some rooms listed in the draft web page that I was able to see from a random Google search. Indian Thali (Anny Company) restaurant. I could not find any related social media information for this new establishment - situated between the new Schatzi's and Boy GaGa bar. If you know of any other updates please post them as the Jomtien Supertown Complex is constantly changing and growing.
    13 points
  8. Hi Raza. Welcome to the board. You are more likely to get useful help if you tell us a bit about yourself. For instance, most people will assume that you're an older gay guy planning to use the commercial gay scene. But you could be in your twenties or thirties hoping for free encounters. You may be familiar with the Bangkok commercial scene and want just a few hints as to how Pattaya differs. Or you may be a newbie to Thailand and know nothing. Anyway, here are a few basics. I will presume that you are an older guy looking to hire. I will talk about the bar areas rather than meeting guys off the apps, which others have mentioned. There are three gay bar areas in Pattaya: Boyztown, Jomtien Complex, and Sunee Plaza. Jomtien Complex, a few miles south of Pattaya city centre, is the biggest “gay zone”, but it does not have go-go bars. Boyztown and Sunee Plaza are in Pattaya city centre, and are smaller areas (Sunee Plaza is almost dead at this stage). Boyztown and Sunee Plaza have go-go bars, while Jomtien Complex specialises in host bars. Boyztown I won't talk about individual bars. Probably the three most popular ones at the moment are Classic Boys, X-Boys, and Toyboys. If you do a Google Map search for any of them, it will bring you to Boyztown, where they are clustered together. A search for those names in the search bar of this website will bring up reports. In general, the go-go bars in Boyztown charge 250–300 baht for a drink. You basically watch the guys dancing on a stage in their underwear. If you see a boy you like on the stage (identified by a number), you tell the mamasan (bar manager on the floor), who will bring him over to sit with you. Since many boys are from neighboring countries like Myanmar, Laos, or Cambodia, and may not speak English well, the mamasan often acts as translator to discuss what the boy is willing to do ("top/bottom/both") and the price to hire them for Short Time (S/T- an hour or two) or Long Time (L/T - usually overnight). However, having the mamasan involved will often raise the expected price, as the mamasan sometimes gets a commission for suggesting a higher price. If the guy speaks any reasonable level of English at all, I would be inclined to keep the mamasan out of it. Boyztown Costs If you bring the guy out of the bar, you will have to pay a fee to the bar, called the “off fee" (similar to the “bar fine” in straight establishments, if you are familiar with them). My understanding is that the current off fee in most Boyztown places is around 500 baht. You will also have to pay the guy separately for his time. Compensation levels can be a contentious issue on this board, but my understanding is the current expected fee for S/T in Boyztown is 1500–2000 baht. Particularly handsome or muscular guys may expect more. Of course, if you are hiring a guy for L/T that would have a higher expectation as well. Sunee Plaza Sunee Plaza is a bit similar, although they have a tradition of the guys being open to being able to be “touched up”, even to the point of being made to cum, at your seat in exchange for a tip of a few hundred baht, which isn't really a thing in the other places. As this area is pretty moribund at the moment, I would leave it as your last visit. It does tend to be cheaper for than Boyztown for off fees and the payment expectations of the guys, though. The main bars in Sunee Plaza are Winner Bar (recently reported closed?) and Nice Boys Bar. Google Maps will help you find them, but be aware that at this stage, with the decline of gay establishments in the vicinity, visiting them will be more like making a trek to individual bars than being part of a "gay area." Jomtien Complex Jomtien Complex has a different model. The bars there are “host” bars rather than go-go bars – they are focused on bars where you can sit and drink, and fully clothed hosts will sit with you and chat in return for you buying them a drink. It has the biggest selection of bars - you really feel like you are in a “gay zone" in Jomtien Complex. Most of the bars have an outside area, which gives a nice ambience to the streets. You can sit outside and people-watch or sit inside and watch the shows. The shows are not go-go shows, but rather entertainment shows dominated by drag acts, although some shows, such as at M Bar, can get quite raunchy. As with Boyztown, the guys are available to take off from the bar. I believe the current off fee in the complex is a bit cheaper than Boyztown, around 300 baht. The expectations of the guys for S/T or L/T may be a bit lower as well, perhaps more so 1200 or 1500 rather than 2000 for S/T, for example. I see that @jimmie50 provided to a link to a map of the bars in Jomtien in an above post, which is very useful. Massage Another aspect you could usefully search for on this board is gay massage places. Many of them are basically fronts for “sexy massage”, which can range from a hand job at the end of the massage to full sex.
    12 points
  9. Hi Kiwi306, I have attended both the Pattaya City and also Jomtien Complex (Supertown) Gay Pride events in year 2024. There were 2 distinct events on 2 different weekends in 2024. On Saturday 8 June 2024 there was a parade held in Jomtien on Thappraya Road, ending at the Dongtan gay beach area. It's name was Pattaya Community Pride 2024 and it was sponsored by SWING and the Jomtien Supertown Complex. After the parade there were festivities and dancing held within the Jomtien Complex later in the evening. The area at the Dongtan Beach was used for speeches and awards and prizes. On Saturday 22 June 2024 there was a parade held over in Pattaya City on Beach Road, ending at the Central Festival mall. It's name was Pattaya International Pride Festival 2024 and it was sponsored by PATTANA (the Thai conglomerate that owns the Central shopping malls throughout Thailand). The parade started at the Central Marina shopping mall over on Second Road (near Terminal 21) and then at the Dolphin Circle it turns left towards Beach Road and terminates at Central Festival. I enjoyed both events, but I preferred the Jomtien parade and related festivities because they were more grass roots organized, whereas, the Pattaya City parade is much more commercial, as it is sponsored by PATTANA. Also, I was disheartened that Boyztown was absent in the Pattaya City parade activities - which disappointed me, as Boyztown has been an integral part of the Pattaya City gay community since forever. It seems that the parade route for the Pattaya City 2026 pride parade will be the same as it was in year 2024: The above image was extracted from the Pattaya City Mayor's office meeting and was posted crocked by them as shown above. Below is the image that has been created for this year's Pattaya City Gay Pride event - with the parade to be held on Saturday 27 June: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLnCBdNSBbf/ There is still no news if SWING and/or the Jomtien Supertown Complex will organize any pride events for this year. Today I wrote an email to SWING Pattaya (Service Worker in Group Foundation) to see if they have any plans for this year. If they respond then I will post them here. Some photos/video from the 2024 Jomtien / Pattaya pride events: Jomtien Dongtan Beach - end of parade stage setup for announcements and awards ceremonies 20240608_171008.mp4 Jomtien 2024 Gay Pride parade video snippet (Thappraya road at the Dongtan Beach entrance) Pattaya City 2024 Gay Pride parade - at the beginning at the Central Marina mall on 2nd Road Pattaya City 2024 Gay Pride parade on Beach Road Note that also in June, Pattaya will be the host of the Circuit Festival Asia from 19 - 21 June https://www.instagram.com/circuitfestivalasia/ https://www.facebook.com/CircuitFestivalAsia/ In closing, note that on 6 May 2026, Thailand officially petitioned to host the year 2030 World Pride and is in competition with Barcelona. I believe that the final decision will be made in January 2027. https://www.sdperspectives.com/activities/road-to-bangkok-worldpride-2030-global-pride-hub-thailand/ https://www.interpride.org/worldpride/
    11 points
  10. After 8 years I returned to Pattaya for a two week visit. Thanks to this forum and its members I was aware of the few changes to Boytown, for example the termination of the BBB boy line up and parade just prior to the opening of the club; sweet memories. A very big change to BBB is that it appears the club now caters more to Chinese female customers than to gay guys. As I sat outside the bar watching the various activities, I noticed that the guys outside BBB were very aggressive in pursuing Chinese people walking through the area to go to the club, whereas they frequently ignored non-Asian guys walking through the area. I decided to attend the first show. As I entered the club, I was happily greeted by workers whom I knew from years ago. Indeed it was a delight that they remembered me and to see many of them still working there after so many years have passed. As I looked around the club, it was readily apparent that the majority of the customers were Chinese, Chinese females. The first part of the show consisted of a stage full of guys completely dressed and all eyeing and vying for the attention of the female customers. The performers of the following semi-erotic shows also focused their attention on the Chinese females. When the various acts were over, the guys quickly left the stage and headed to the male gay customers asking them for a tip!!! I declined to tip any of them and why should I. Throughout the shows and other stage activities the guys practically ignored the male gay clients but yet were eager to approach them for a tip; a tip for what? As a few guys approached me, I shook my head indicating "no" and pointed to the female Chinese customers. I was ignored the entire time I was there and now they want money in the form of a tip from me? "no way Jose". Later I asked the mamasan to invite a guy over for a drink and conversation, as I was interested in taking him off. The guy was not very friendly, a bit cold and did not respond to any of my touches to his hand and leg. As he quickly finished his drink, he said: "1.000 to bar for off and 5,000 for me, short time"; no previous discussion nor anything. Any interest I had in him quickly disappeared. The whole ordeal lasted about three minutes (ha-ha). I left the club the way I entered - alone. Later that week, a couple of mamasans told me that the boys working at the club prefer to be with girls instead of with men. It seems that the owners of BBB have purchased or leased the old Royal hotel/restaurant. About 1:30 the workers at BBB start transferring various items from BBB to the old Royal hotel. Around 2:00 everyone, workers and customers, go from BBB to the new location. Looking through the glass I saw the guys from BBB lined up on the stage. As I sat at the outside patio of the Ambiance hotel, I saw several couples, a boy from BBB and a Chinese female, go to the reception area of the closed hotel and later disappear. The mamasans said they went to rooms. The nights I sat outside watching the various events, I never saw a BBB guy and a gay guy go to a room at the Royal. Actually, I never saw a "single" male customer go to the continuing show at the closed Royal hotel. One visit to BBB was enough for me.
    10 points
  11. My guy got me a slice of cake from Foodland supermarket and he organised a happy birthday singalong. Even the Happy Beer Garden aunties joined in! 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
    10 points
  12. Glad to see the board back too. And could I just say I was pleased to see that the managers of the other main Thai message boards - Moses from Sawatdeeforums and Gaybutton - were offering their solidarity and support (and in the case of Moses, practical assistance) on their boards too while the outage was continuing. Good on them.
    10 points
  13. 10tazione

    Manila massedging

    I stayed one night in Quezon/Manila recently. After scrolling through a million posts on X, I still had no idea which massage shop I wanted to visit. I chose a hotel that put me within walking distance of several shops. Since I didn’t want to take my phone into a sauna/spa, I brought a map I had prepared and printed out at home (yes, a paper map — but not an outdated one like some other members here). First, I contacted a shop that had some promising pictures on Telegram, only to discover it wasn’t actually in the area. Stupid me. The second shop didn’t answer on Telegram — maybe it had closed for good. Finally, I decided to just walk to “T by 27 Shaw Spa” and see what I could arrange. On the way there, I passed a group of young men in some kind of uniform and thought what a shame it wasn’t the spa. After ten minutes of searching, I realised the spa was exactly where those good-looking men in uniform were gathering. My paper map had apparently not updated my location correctly… At the reception, I booked an “Explorer Massage” — the option that sounded most promising after my research, although I still had no real idea what to expect. I was given my therapist’s name, a room number, and an appointment in about two hours. I paid the fee. The entrance fee included access to the sauna downstairs, so I thought the time would pass quickly. It didn’t. Those were the two most boring hours I’ve ever spent in a sauna. Lesson learned: Always bring your phone to a sauna — even if the banking app might get stolen! Upstairs there was an unattended bar/waiting area and a huge number of massage rooms. When the appointment time approached, the waiting room filled up. There were now around 10-15 people waiting. A gong sounded, several masseurs appeared, and most customers seemed to already know their masseur. They disappeared with them down the corridor. I followed and found my room in the first row. There must have been ten rooms per row and three rows in total. I undressed and tried to make myself comfortable on the massage table in the rather dark room. After about five minutes, my masseur appeared. He was good-looking — as far as I could tell in the dim light — but dressed in long sports trousers and a sleeveless shirt. That didn’t change throughout the session. His “goodies” remained one towel and one pair of trousers away the entire time. The masseurs gave each other click signals whith the tongue to keep in sync with the "progression" of the massage. How weird! The other customers must all have been not only very near but also have booked the same course, what a coincidence The “progression” happened — and quite quickly. The first step - pretending to be a regular massage - lasted no more than three minutes before I felt certain body parts being intentionally stimulated. The latter continued for about an hour, alternated by caressing all the sensitive areas a man of a certain age possesses and simulated fucking. At one point he asked if I wanted him to insert a finger, and I said xxx (don’t try to guess my answer from the number of x’s hehe). Towards the end he asked if I wanted to come, and again I said xxx (could be the same or different). I’m no expert in sexual terminology, but I think the experience can best be described as an excellent one-hour edging session and I know at least one member here who will want to book a flight to Manila right away! I gave him a generous tip and left the place completely satisfied. So satisfied, in fact, that I skipped my second planned activity — The One 690 Entertainment Bar. So unfortunately I can’t report on that.
    9 points
  14. I went to Rio and Salvador in March and boy did I have a time! I enjoyed my time seeing sites, eating, and getting fucked 🤣. Salvador is better than Rio and more authentic. I finally understand the touristy compliments because Rio is like that, but Salvador is normal and enjoyable! If you want to see the sites and sounds, DM me for IG name lol. Let’s talk about the 🍆. I don’t have a lot of pictures because not all the guys allowed it, but I will say that they are going to fuck you with some passion and power. What I did not like….some of the guys faked their nuts (maybe my ass is whack 🤷🏿‍♂️🤣), but I feel like it’s a Brazilian GP thing because most of the guys did not fake it. Price wise I paid around $50-$100 usd and the guys were worth that price. I may have paid $30-$40 in Salvador because everything is just cheaper there and no one faked a nut there. In Rio there were no issues bringing anyone to either of my air bnb’s and they were both a quarter mile away on Copacabana. Salvador I could not bring anyone because that was the rule of the air bnb and I honestly slept terrible in the airport. I would make sure I can have “a few friends over” with the owners. I never felt unsafe, but I followed the keep your head on a swivel and only text when stopped with your back against the wall. Overall I love visiting Brazil and I definitely want to go back, but more for Salvador, Receife, and Sao Luis. I also think São Paulo has a better GP in the Sauna over Rio. I did not use Grindr because of my concern of picking up unwanted company, but I used: https://garotocomlocal.com.br/salvador/ and you can look up a lot of cities in Brazil and based on the region you will be in. There was one guy who I had an appointment with and he flaked and then his account got banned so that was a blessing in disguise. I recommend not paying anyone in advance, but setting a price. I noticed the guys did not like getting paid upfront like Dominicans do and I had to learn that lesson. They do take a shower before and after each session. Be clear about what you want! They have seen it all and don’t mind 😈😏. Here are some pictures. Some were just hot guys and the rest…ya know. The last picture is the flaky account from Rio in case anyone ever sees it, AVOID at all cost! Rio Tour Guide: Manu- +55 21 99427-7428 Salvador Tour Guide: Fernando- +55 71 99268-3016
    9 points
  15. Great hotel. No hassles with visitors. Great lap pool. I stayed at Sukhothai Hotel past week - double the price. Voco is almost comparable in terms of comfort. i found it more fun to meet boys on grindr. Just made it clear that id pay 200 for taxi if not what I was looking for. The bars are dire. I also got scammed in one bar where they claimed I'd given a 100 instead of 1000. Just not worth the hassle.
    9 points
  16. iendo

    Do you know these boys?

    Keith, you gave a "+1" to the cold and dehumanizing comment. My point was simple. Manny on this forum are engaged in transactions with people in economically vulnerable positions. The guy who is honest about that and the guy who sends money every month while calling it love are both paying. One of them just has a cleaner view of what is actually happening. Calling that dehumanizing while sitting on a forum called Gay Guides, with (in your case) "Boys" listed in your interests, is a position I find hard to take seriously. Most are here for the same reason. The moral ranking system some people operate here, where your virtue is measured by how much you spend or how warm you feel afterwards, does not hold up. Live and let live was the diplomatic version. This is the longer one.
    9 points
  17. You don't realize how significant or important something is in your daily routine until it goes missing. So glad we are back. Thanks @TotallyOz for your quick action.
    9 points
  18. well hello my fellow sluts and slut-ettes! I hope you all have been sucking big dicks, getting rammed by big dicks and getting huge warm loads spewed in your holes. its been a while so I thought I'd cum share the sex-capades from my last 2 trips to the Dr. ok guys, you know the rules, I might have misspelled words, improper punctuation and run on sentences so if that matters to you, please skip this thread. now to all you other whores who don't give a damn about that, get your reading glasses on because you're going to want to hear all about the big dicks we've encountered in sdq. let me start off by informing all my bottom sisters about a tea called, Hayley's colon cleanse that I found off Amazon. on my Instagram, I was getting a lot of ads about peachy gummies and I tried those. for some reason my phone and computer was always showing these ads about what products were good to clean your ass before a session. I tried the gummies in December in hopes that they would be effective for my trip to sdq in February but they were ineffective and a waste of money. again, I'm was on my social media pages and there was an advertisement for Haley's colon cleanse. I read almost all the Amazon reviews and ordered the product. we went to sdq for independence day. now, here is how you take the tea. I would take 2 tea bags put them in the bottom of the cup then take another cup of water, microwave for 3 minutes then pour the hot water over the tea bags in the other cup and put a small plate over the tea. let it sit covered for about 3 minutes then drink the tea around 7 p.m. my husband and I would go have dinner, walk the colonial zone til about 10 or so then go back to the apartment. by 6 a.m. the next morning I was bolting to the bathroom. the tea was working overtime and when it was time to get in the shower to ensure my hole was ready for some Dominican dick, I was only in the shower for about 10 - 20 minutes because the tea had done a thorough job cleaning my hot pocket. we stayed for 8 days so every night I drank the tea so I'd be ready for Manny's big dick cousin or moca Tarzan who I have fallen in love with. more about the 2 of them later. we went to sdq for independence day. omg. if you have not been to sdq for independence day then you don't know what you are missing. the guys come from all over the the Dr to party in the colonial zone. there was dick everywhere. they have this huge parade in the malecon and its a full military display with helicopters, big Dominican soldiers on the side of tanks with their huge dick prints bulging in their pants. there is video on line that shows these big dick Dominican soldiers being groped by the women in the crowd. I was soooooo fucking jealous because the guys were strapped to the sides of these tanks with guns and their dick prints were on full display and I wanted them all in my ass. the parade and parties in the malecon were amazing. I knew the parade would be crowded so I bought a special shirt off Amazon to let every Dominican man there know what I was looking for. the shirt had a bunch of dollar bills on the front with a phone and the shirt read money is calling, accept or decline. it front of the shirt looked like a cell phone does when you receive a call and it gives you the option to accept or decline the call. heyyyyyy, a whore has to be clever and it worked like a charm in the massive sea of big Dominican dicks. the shirt caught the eye of this Dominican was sitting in front of a president store. we exchanged numbers and he wanted to make money on the spot and suggested that we leave the fiesta and go back to my apartment but I was on a mission to find as many dominican dicks as I could find in that sea of sexy Dominican men. there was a time when I would travel to the dominican republic, call Manny and ask him for some of his guys. now when I'm there, manny calls me and asks me for my guys. the irony of it all. lol. so the guy sent me a short video, which I will show you because sharing is caring right, tramps? lol. this strange thing always happens when I'm in the Dr. well I wouldn't call it strange because I intentionally put out my calling card when I'm in the Dr so that my Dominicans who follow me on social media will know that I'm there. I tag myself at a restaurant or when the plane lands I will post video of the airport and here's what always happens when we arrive. I always get a text from unknown numbers of big dick sexy Dominican tops who I've never met or given my number to. you bitches know I don't lie and I will post the messages between me and these unknowns. whoever gives my number out know that I like big Dominican dicks because this big dick bodybuilder sent me a text. I didnt know who he was but he sent me a vanishing pic and I knew I wanted his dick in me and cum all over me. this guy was cumming to the colonial zone and wanted to meet. we agreed on my price and I told my husband that we needed to leave the parade and go back to the Airbnb. the stud military police had me hot and horny and I knew that I needed to be opened up after I saw his picture and video. I told him that if his pic and video were fake or if he couldnt get his dick hard then he wouldnt be getting paid and he would have to leave the apartment. I also told him that I liked having my nipples sucked a lot and if he wanted to be hired multiple times while I'm there then he'd had to do an amazing job sucking my nipples. my husband and I head back to the Airbnb, I send the unknown my location and tell him I will see him in one hour. I jump in the shower for a confirmation cleaning and within 10 minutes Im out and on the balcony looking out for the unknown. he arrives on motorcycle but doesn't see me but I can see him from the third floor balcony. he texts me from his phone, I whistle he looks around and don't see me which I think is funny for some dumb reason then I say que lol que hermano. he looks up and I wave. he cums upstairs, we shake hands greet and I offer him a presidente. he jumps in the shower and cums out with a towel around his waist and his body is flawless with a face to match. I couldn't wait to feel this stud inside me. he walks to me, drops his towel and begins to suck my nipple. my husband hears me moaning and he walks in and sucks my other nipple. I take a whiff of my poppers and lose total control of my body because my nipples and sensitive as fuck. this guy really wanted to be a regular because he had my nipple in his mouth for over 5 minutes and I stood there moaning uncontrollably because the pleasure was so immense. he took my hand and placed it on his dick. it was hard and thick as a cucumber. I kept squeezing his dick and every time I squeezed it, he made it throb in my hand. I reached for a condom, grabbed the lube and lubed my ass. I got in the bed doggie style and he slowing put every inch of that big Dominican dick in me. my husband positioned himself under me so he could suck my nipples while I was getting pounded by this sexy big dick Dominican stud. I told my husband that I was going to fuck that big Dominican dick until he shot his load and that's exactly what I did. we fucked for about 3o minutes. 2 minutes in he asked for the poppers. I passed him the bottle while he was in me and the poppers I use are very strong. he took one whiff and started to aggressively fuck me until he shot his milk. he fucked me so hard to the point that I was yelling because not only was he pounding my ass, he had grabbed the front of my neck and was punishing my hole until he drained his Dominican dick. afterwards we both collapsed in the bed panting heavily. we laid there for about 5 minutes trying to catch our breath. my husband asked me while we were lying there, "hoe are you ok." I told him hell yeah. I have to keep this motherfucker on heavy rotation because he fuck me so good. we cleaned up, the bodybuilder left and we laid around for about an hour. it was hot but the parade was still going on. we watched a little TV and I told my husband that i was going to call the guy from the parade over. I texted him, sent him my location and he was there in about 10 minutes. this guy took a shower came back into the room within minutes of me lubing my hole, he had me scrambling around in the bed because I couldn't take his big domincan dick. I was not ready to take such a huge dick after just getting pounded an hour earlier but this guy would not take slow it down or no as a directive. he would put his dick in me grind slow for a few minutes then long stroke my hole with his bid dominican dick while he spoke Spanish. he kept saying perra and I do know that perra means bitch in Spanish. I couldn't keep up with him, but when I could keep up with him and throw my ass in a circle he would call me perra (which turned me on) and slap or punch my butt cheeks. this guy did it all. he fucked me on the couch, in the hall and for the finale, he put me on my back and fucked me while my husband sucked my nipples. when he heard me about to cum, he started to really dig deep and pound my hole. I let out the loudest moan and shot one of the biggest loads to ever exit my body. my body shook with involuntary convulsions. a few seconds later he let out a load moan and nutted all over me and the load I had just shot all over myself. this happened in February. were now in April. to this day I still masturbate with my eyes closed thinking about how he fucked me so good. I also saw Manny's big dick cousin during this trip . he's very comfortable with me now and wanted to try some new things that I wont mention because some of you girls talk to much, lol. but Manny's cousin never disappoints. he just a tall handsome masculine Dominican who's extremely verbal when he fucks. Manny's cousin or nephew will make you fall in love with him because he's soooo handsome and the body is soooooo beautiful and the dick is soooo delicious and full of cum. well whores I hope to see you next year for independence day, 2027.
    9 points
  19. 56 Surawong cost US$40 per night. Other hotels cost more than US$50. A new addition to the room is the safe deposit box. I don't remember it being there last year. Great location but not for light sleepers due to Surawong Road traffic. After my guy and I finished our reacquaintance, we headed out to Prime for massage. Alas, fully booked until midnight so they closed the shop. So my guy and I went to Urban Thai and we got Thai massage side by side upstairs by two male masseurs. We finished our massage after midnight. When we went downstairs, the staff were closing up. I went back to hotel room as I had to take my medication while my guy went to meet his friends after they finished work at their bars. We had arranged an after-work party at Happy Beer Garden.
    8 points
  20. Writing this from McDonald's Silom Road branch after lunch and waiting for massage at 4pm. My guy was supposed to be away in Vietnam from end January to October to build his house. But prices of construction materials increased this year and he needed to fork out more money so he decided to return to work in Bangkok during Songkran. It happened to be my birthday a few days ago so I decided to come to Bangkok for a weekend trip to celebrate belated birthday. I got off work at 2:30pm then took 5:30pm flight from Singapore. Arrived at 7pm and took leisurely ride on airport train and BTS to Silom. I met my guy who was waiting for me outside his bar Fresh Boy. I paid for 2 nights off fee and off we went to check in at 56 Surawong to be reacquainted...
    8 points
  21. 8 points
  22. jimmie50

    Asians and "the cute"

    I don't believe anyone is forcing you to visit. If you don't care to visit a place, then don't. There are many places in the world I have no desire to see or visit in person. I don't go around bad mouthing them. That is totally inappropriate. If you don't want to visit Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia...or wherever. That is your choice. There is absolutely no reason to be nasty and mean about it. We all have our preferences as to what we like and don't like...not just in regards to men, but people and places in general. That is life. Get over it. My mother always told me...if you cannot say something nice about it, then perhaps you shouldn't say anything at all. Maybe you should follow that advice.
    8 points
  23. iendo

    Do you know these boys?

    I can confirm, I met christian a few times IRL in Bangkok, Pattaya and Jomtien. And even though I think he is a very nice person, and I love his blog, he NEVER tipped me.
    8 points
  24. I believe this may partially be the case. I have had two long term relationships, one of which was for ten years with a man from Taiwan. Eventually we lived together in both the US and in Taiwan, but it initially started as a long distance relationship. I am currently in a 'situation' with a Cambodian man who lives in Thailand. Again, this is a long distance arrangement. I also have long time Thai friends. While any relationship requires communication and trust to be successful and long lasting, my experiences have taught me that I cannot expect them to communicate in the exact same manner I am accustomed to or would expect if they were white American men. If that is your expectation, you are in for a rough road ahead. There is a big cultural difference, not to mention the language barrier. Not sure where you are from or your nationality. Unless your guy is fluent in your native language, you both are probably using a translation app on the phone or computer. Unfortunately, these are not always completely accurate and the meaning gets garbled or lost completely. I check, double-check and triple-check everything I send in a message to be sure. I can translate one sentence three times on the same app and it will come out different all three times. I believe you are over-thinking the romance piece. You didn't say what your guy does for work? You also didn't mention how you met. Those pieces of the puzzle might help us respond better to the cheating question. Bottom line...all relationships require communication and trust. Long distance even more so.
    8 points
  25. My guy's grandmother passed away 2 years ago. He was very distraught and asked me to book an air ticket for him from Bangkok to Vietnam immediately the next day. I did as he asked and I offered my sympathies and condolences. After he arrived in Vietnam, he asked me for US$3500 to pay for the funeral. I declined to send him the money. I felt that I had already done my part by booking air ticket for him (about US$300 as it was an urgent booking). I reasoned that the rest of his family should contribute to funeral expenses and not just him. I believe that he feels responsible based on Vietnamese tradition because he is the only son (he has older and younger sisters) in the family. His father is a retired soldier and currently farms on their family land and earns enough just to get by. Finally, my last reason was why do you need such a grand funeral? I felt that my guy and his family wanted a grand funeral for the matriach to impress relatives and neighbours and follow the Asian custom of "saving face". However, I have always been a thrity person and don't believe in extravagant events - whether weddings or funerals. So it was very much a personal stance of mine not to overspend and I stood firm. I did not say my reasons to my guy of course. I just told him that I was unable to provide additional financial help. Our Line conversations became awkward for the next few weeks but we still stayed in touch. There were times when I felt guilty and I questioned myself whether I should have helped him. When we met again in Bangkok a few months later, I said sorry in person to him for not giving him that money for a grand funeral. He said it was ok. He observed the traditional one year mourning period. He avoided celebrations including a birthday celebration I had planned for him in December later that year.
    8 points
  26. The following story has been making the rounds on social media today: A 19-year-old barber named Antoni García, was detained after allegedly offering sexual services to a police officer. The incident reportedly took place in Los Angeles. According to information shared on social media, the young barber offered a happy ending by making inappropriate advances and insinuations. The young man pleaded not guilty.
    7 points
  27. This is lgbtq hotel, the price appx only 1,000 a night near gay venue in bkk just a walking distance.
    7 points
  28. Total cost of the party was 9400 baht. Half was on food and the other half on beer. Happy Beer Garden didn't offer beer towers so we ordered big bottles of Leo beer (150 baht each). Every time we finished the beer, we ordered one round of 5 bottles. I paid with ten 1000 baht notes. I gave 100 baht tip each to the 3 staff assigned to serve us.
    7 points
  29. as this type reports appear from time to time I make a point to have a lot of change when hitting bars to avoid waiting for a change.
    7 points
  30. Don't forget SANSUk sauna Entry fee 280 baht I was gangbanged in there by 3 X 70yo Singaporean guys !!!🍑 They all must of travelled together, my big fat ass was up over the bench and they worked up a sweat pounding my hairy ass One nearly had a heart attack❣️ he was going balls n all pounding away my big fat daddy butt 🍑
    7 points
  31. 7 points
  32. vinapu

    Do you know these boys?

    Unfortunate truth is, no matter how well boys are being paid for their services and an access to their bodies, they are being treated as cheap commodities . Very fact that customer can touch their private parts after knowing them in bar for 5 minutes or engage in sex in massage parlor 20 minutes into session is degrading and dehumanising by every name . Their customers would not allow the same to be done to them. Difference is only in compensation. It may be customers impression that 5000 baht tip soothes guys better than 1000 baht one. Boys in question may have different or at times even opposite ideas. Boy with low self esteem may be happy with his 1000 while other , oiled with 5000 may still consider it self imposed insult to himself.
    7 points
  33. I heard rumors about a ransomeware attack. What happened, @TotallyOz? I am so glad we are back to normal! Congrats for your quick reaction and recovery!
    7 points
  34. I hope you've also fixed the security vulnerability that led to the hack... Thank you very much for maintaining and restoring the forum
    7 points
  35. Parade guy
    7 points
  36. vinapu

    Do you know these boys?

    wow, so much dirt water thrown at somebody one never even met. Where all that dirt is coming from ? Work on busted main collector or something ?
    7 points
  37. Alright Maurice keep your wig on don't want to be busting your colostomy bag.
    7 points
  38. I don’t think so. Everything you’ve mentioned would be a cause of concern to me. I’ll preface my comments by saying this isn’t a criticism of you but notes from personal experience. Attributing relationship red flags to “cultural differences” and overlooking them is at best naive, at worst dangerous. You’ve given us little information to go on. Where did you meet him? In a bar? Was he formerly or even currently a working boy? Or if you met him on Grindr, has he ever accepted payment for hook ups? Does he have other “partners”? This could be cultural or simply down to personality. I’m inclined to say it’s only partly cultural. Thai people are known to be indirect or suppress their feelings (especially when it’s confrontational or uncomfortable) but while not communicative, they’re known to be affectionate and if not by words, by actions. Such as showing commitment to the partnership, never flaking out or making unexpected changes, being contactable nearly all of the time, transparent about who they’re going out with. It could be personality, there’s nothing wrong with being emotionally reserved. But combined with your suspicion he’s not being honest and being uncontactable on nights out, clearly you feel something isn’t right otherwise you wouldn’t be posting here. Gut feelings shouldn’t be ignored. What’s the worst case scenario? He doesn’t have sincere feelings for you at the moment and is with you for his own reasons. Then, do you think he’s genuinely open to building a foundation where his feelings can blossom over time and your worries are slowly erased? There is nothing wrong with this either. I’m in agreement with their other members here who have responded. Unless you’re ready to cut things off, there’s no point overthinking things but for your own sake, be observant and don’t keep giving him a free pass based on “cultural differences” I expect many of your questions will be answered after spending time together in two weeks.
    7 points
  39. I think you did what is right on both accounts , your reasoning is correct , if family doesn't have money for lavish funeral they should abandon the idea and go by what they have. Deceased can't care less and screw what rest of family and neighbours say. At end of day it's not very smart to get ruined just to keep up with customs and tradition.
    7 points
  40. Good point, Vinapu. MauRICE can make interesting contributions, but there’s definitely a streak of vitriol running through many of his posts. Part of it seems to come from a kind of self‑righteous mindset that is increasing common online: as long as someone holds the “correct” views on Middle East politics, or the “right” opinion on how much to compensate a service provider, then their tone in their postings apparently doesn’t matter — they can still consider themselves the better person. Combine that with a generally sneering attitude toward older white men, who make up the majority of posters on this board, and it’s hardly a recipe for winning friends or influencing people.
    7 points
  41. Vessey

    Jomtien

    Stayed at the Zing many times now, they are totally guest friendly. I usually come downstairs when my guest has arrived to greet them and lead them upstairs to my room. If I see the same boy again, they then usually just make their way straight to my room; they have to pass reception, but that has never been a problem. As to M Bar, I love the place, stuffed full of baht-hungry boys. Most would be all to happy to drink with you and probably to be offed back to your room later. As to the boys on stage, if they are performing/dancing, they will be focussed on that; some may already have customers awaiting them off-stage, but most will be all to happy to accept a drink when their turn on stage is completed. I agree with other posters than you can always ask a waiter about a particular boy if you feel uncomfortable approaching the lad directly. The boys can leave you alone if they think that you are happy with your own company, but break the ice with the offer of a drink or two and you will find yourself having to 'fight them off with a stick' 🤣 I think the basic off-fee is 300 baht, rising to 500 baht for their main stage boys. Tip expectations are usually 2k for Short-Time, but 1.5k can still be negotiated with some boys. There are stage shows at 10pm and midnight, but many of the boys sleep above the bar and will linger inside, and out front for several hours after that. Many a night it has been between 2-3am before my boyfriend and I have trudged our way back to the hotel (either on our own or with a borrowed third for the night) and we have very rarely ever been the last customer to leave.
    7 points
  42. Min

    Do you know these boys?

    Well, a Viet boy working in Fresh Boy, who got a Thai wife, told me his wife doesn't mind if his customers are male, but she gets jealous and asks many questions if a particular customer turns out to be lady. Whenever he comes home late (i.e., more than 30 min after the bar closes), she would video-call to check his whereabouts. And he only picks up the phone if the customer has a penis This reminds me of someone in here saying in another thread that he would mind less if his boyfriend/sponsee has a wife instead of another male partner. legal counsel and also porn co-star
    6 points
  43. Torremolines Exxtreme This was my second visit to this beach town near Malaga. I came two years ago after hearing it’s the Spanish gay capital, but found it quite boring with few online hookups. I used Grindr and got a very cheap oral from a 20-year-old Colombian (maybe €20). I also hired a local massage therapist who boasted about his skills, but the experience was mediocre. This time, I visited Extttreme for the show. The town center resembles Thai walking steet setting, with many venues clustered in a mall-like area. The bar is part of this complex. I didn’t inquire about show times, and the receptionist didn’t volunteer the info. They spoke English but weren’t particularly friendly. Many patrons spoke English, likely due to the tourist and expat presence. The clientele here is also older, not just at the bar but throughout the town. There were more 20- and 30-somethings than in Seville, but they were mostly unimpressive and had a bit of attitude reminiscent of some American gay scenes. The crowd wasn’t my type. The venue is larger and busier, but I found only one attractive guy, who was interested in someone else, so I had no chance. I approached him, but he wasn’t interested. The show started late; I don’t recall the exact time but I was ready to go home and sleep. However, the show was much better than in Seville, closer to the interactive shows I’ve seen in Brazil. There was a large round couch in the main room, and two performers that night. They began with full sex, which I appreciated, then involved the audience individually. The top performer was very engaging and seemed to enjoy himself; the bottom was less enthusiastic except with the top performer. I don’t do raw sex, and the top wanted to top me, which I declined, though he topped several others. Unfortunately, the other patrons didn’t interact with each other, only with the performers, which dampened the atmosphere. In Brazil, I often played with multiple guys alongside the performer, who actively encouraged the crowd to be interactive. That vibe was missing here, which was disappointing. After the main show, the performers did a quick shower scene with glass walls visible from the bar area, which was quite hot. Overall, if I’m ever in Malaga again and the performers are appealing, I might return, but with tempered expectations.
    6 points
  44. Go downstairs to the skytrain level. Walk to the left of the skytrain office where we buy tickets. On your right are some change booths which give a better rate than all the upstairs change places at bkk. When I was there earlier this month the rate there wasn't that far below the best in the city.
    6 points
  45. You only have to be with one who doesn’t have a big dick to be able to say that not every African money body in Pattaya has a big dick.
    6 points
  46. Londoner

    Jomtien

    "The land of smiles". I'd advise any newbie that if he wants a successful meeting, he should start with a smile. And then he will likely end with one.
    6 points
  47. I think everyone has opinions AND lived experience on this.... men can't be faithful, perhaps for a short time or if you've already had your share of fucking around in your younger years and want to settle down and companionship is more important than wild sex.... but expecting someone much younger than you to be at that stage with you and not fucking around is a pipe dream. Long distance relationships are not viable....better to be reliable fuck buddies/friends. Now can Thai men be faithful, specifically.... like @jimmie50 said, too much missing information in this case, but bet it falls into the above explanation regardless 😉
    6 points
  48. hank75

    Are gay Thai men faithful?

    100% but so many shades of grey to this topic and a mutually beneficial relationship isn’t always an insincere one
    6 points
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