May 2015 in Bangkok and Pattaya -trip report

[vinapu]

Of course if was XBoys, not XSize / which is in BKK, not PTY/, my apologies but I was typing report past midnight so excuse me.

 

I think writing as I'm still there makes for better reading. I remember plenty, hey whisky or even better , gin , helps as long as is taken straight, I don't use any diluters or mixers as they are called.

 

On serious side at least twice daily I was updating my notes in form of draft e-mail to myself , you are right that after return all seems like a blur. Fact that I change hotels often actually helps to localize  goings in the past and to place them in proper day as well.

 

Yes I like Magnolia and even like long stroll to or /and from  there, I'm big on walking and it takes me 20-25 minutes from BT to get there. Massages are great and so is decor but as for boys I have mixed emotions, so will continue to patronize them  in future , God willing,  most likely with expectation of great massage and not much more.

 

Not that they are not willing for extras, opposite, too willing and too fast to get to 2nd stage for my taste, I walk fast but lay   slow so to speak.

 

For me PTY is Boyztown, I can envision me camping there for a week crossing street only for Boat Bakery and internet cafe on South Pattaya Road. Did not venture to Dongtan at all this trip but went to Sunee, watch this space for more.

 

It were at least dozen if not more boys at Kawaii  / biguyby correct me if I'm wrong / , with exception of smiles none for me which means many readers here would be happy there, twinky cherubs are not my territory, their older brothers are.

[williewillie]

The siliconed big cock boy at Xboys could be the 'poster child' for what can happen if one has silicon injected.

I close my eyes when he appears. Oversized deformed penises about the ugliest thing imaginable.

Some others at Xboy make the show worthwhile but bring earplugs.

[Travellerdave]

I visited Magnolia twice during my March trip, having been there in August/September 2014. It must be about 2 miles from BT but I did it on the second occasion, having used my hired motor bike the first time. Its quite hard to find and is close to Sukumvit Road in a maze of small Sois in a rather modern house with smart clean interior. I was rather ready for the cold drink on arrival.

I was very satisfied both times and would agree the boys are keen to conclude the massage part of the proceedings, by, on the last occasion probing between my butt cheeks with his cock.

If it wasn't for the location I would not go anywhere else for the massage experience.

[1moRussian]

Welcome to the helmet buying club

Could you lit some light on your daily agreed business rate, please?

PS [your] ax murderer is not a Kuhn Thai, judging by "visa extension" need?

[biguyby]

 

It were at least dozen if not more boys at Kawaii  / biguyby correct me if I'm wrong / , with exception of smiles none for me which means many readers here would be happy there, twinky cherubs are not my territory, their older brothers are.

 

Yes I agree with you Vinpu very twinky cherubs, I am a fan of cute twinks but Kawaii Boys in Soi Pattayaland 1 are even too young and twinky for me. But I did enjoy our little bar crawl very much indeed.

[biguyby]

The siliconed big cock boy at Xboys could be the 'poster child' for what can happen if one has silicon injected.

I close my eyes when he appears. Oversized deformed penises about the ugliest thing imaginable.

Some others at Xboy make the show worthwhile but bring earplugs.

 

Unfortunately the boy with the oversized deformed penis implant would be better suited to a freak show than a cock show.

[biguyby]

 

Where is that KISS place you mention Abang? name sounds familiar but mentally can't localize.

You guessed rightly , always  I treat my bed warmers with breakfast unless they opt out by leaving early.

 

Kiss Food and Drink is one of favourite places to eat, no frills, great Thai Food and acceptable quality Western food. Budget prices.

 

It is located on Second Road on the corner of Soi Diana Inn and across the road from Mike Shopping Mall.

[vinapu]

Welcome to the helmet buying club

Could you lit some light on your daily agreed business rate, please?

PS [your] ax murderer is not a Kuhn Thai, judging by "visa extension" need?

I thought it may be kind of money extracting scam but at least as you will learn soon , helmet were bought and used by us / possibly returned later on but I was mentally prepared for those tricks so took it lightly.

 

I offered 1000, boy wanted 2000 so we settled on 1500/day. I consider this generous on my side ,  comments welcomed.

 

Night activities excluded, so when he was with me I paid him separately, when he was alone earned nothing but I guaranteed him 2 nights out of  5 and he spent a lot of efforts to convince me to hire him for 3 nights. It worked out in his favour as you will learn soon.

 

He is Lao, but his parents are living somewhere in Issan . I need to say here I have good luck with Lao boys and not as good with Cambodian ones, not sure it's pattern or coincidence. My best boy in Dec was Lao as well

[vinapu]

Unfortunately the boy with the oversized deformed penis implant would be better suited to a freak show than a cock show.

I actually feel sorry for him since he is well built a with handsome face but such deformed most important part

 

Kiss Food and Drink is one of favourite places to eat, no frills, great Thai Food and acceptable quality Western food. Budget prices.

 

It is located on Second Road on the corner of Soi Diana Inn and across the road from Mike Shopping Mall.

now I recall passing by on few occasions thanks to your photo

[vinapu]

Day 6

 

Started with me acting ATM big time dispensing baht like no tomorrow, tip for him for night company , 1000 baht for helmets – discussed a bit earlier in the thread and 2000 for off fee for 5 days. I was actually expecting 2500 since off fee at BBB is 500 unless one buys drink , then is reduced to 400 but boy told me 2000 so I gave him that  to pay bar. Possibly he pocketed money working it somehow with bar but not my business and it worked for me .

 

We had breakfast at Ambiance across the soi for a change, then boy left and I was waiting for van to show up and take me to NongNooch tropical gardens.

 

I’m not big fan of nature and greenery but was enticed by Christian comments somewhere about them being world class attraction  so decided to give it a try and right away I need to say that I agree with that assessment. Gardens are covering quite a big are , can be explored on foot on ground or from above using elevated walkways all over the place,  there’s also kind of open sided tramway driving around with stops in few places / 100 baht / and ultimate – tour can be made using royal transport i.e on top of elephant / 400 baht /.

 

I thought 700 baht cost for half day trip is kind of expensive but in fact it’s very good value – admission cost is 500 so 200 for round trip transport from and to hotel it fair as long as I’m concerned since gardens are quite a distance from the city. Even with all that greenery there’s not much shade so it’s better to take morning trip instead of afternoon ones also offered.

Lots of food and drink available and one can easily spend whole day there.

 

Took my photo with tiger on the short chain / 100 baht / , took elephant ride as well as tramway tour where I was big attraction since all other passengers were locals and whenever I heard “farang” I knew it’s about me. Always kind walker I also explored elevated walkways and must say after 4 hours I was happy I took that trip.   

 

Around  2 p.m.  I was dropped in front of ABomb and few minutes later my boy appeared with two helmets, crappy for 200 for me and classy one for 800 for him, he expects it to last at least 4 years by his words so chances are I may come and check. No idea what helmets costs and to what degree he milked me but I assume it’s not that much, at home probably just strap would cost me 1000 baht so no complains.

 

Sanctuary of Truth is not that far and I liked it , beautiful carvings in equally impressive setting on the edge of the sea. Admission again quite steep at 500 , grounds are quite extensive including restaurant where we had a lunch , boy had some seafood and me , you guessed rightly , chicken with cashew nuts.

 

I told boy I will pick him up from the bar after show, he went to his room and I had some rest after such a busy touristy  day and early in the evening I walked  over to Sunee Plaza with only one bar in mind – Good Boys I missed in Dec, one I was advised had different type of boys that rest of Sunee and I may like them.

 

Stories proven true, several boys on duty, no twink in sight.    Drink 150 followed with invitation to sit behind partition where shortly after I was joined by member of staff who offered to present his jewels and cum for me for consideration of 300 baht. I even volunteered a drink and having fun in the bar invited two others, one by one,   for the same treatment . All three boys by their own admission are 100 % straight and into girls but obviously into drink and 300 baht as well. 

 

Certainly  something different   than in other bars and while I prefer this type of entertainment in my room , not open space,  I had a fun.

There was another patron entertained the same way and he looked  like local , certainly spoke Thai as was conversing with his boy during whole process.

 

Back in Boyztown for already established routine, beer and adoration at Oscars, BBB boys singing and flag waving then cross to BBB, my boy was not there so I sit with another one for fun and was rewarded with feel of his  quite impressive endowment he was proud to present claiming he is not shy at all.

 

Busy surveying what was on offer I did not even notice my boy arrived and was quietly observing the scene from behind instead of joining us. We watched show together, after that some repeated  fooling with the same boy, tipped one of boys on stage I like but under eye of my boy I needed to behave so we went back to Café Royale for    world peace discussion 4th night in row  finishing day 6 of my trip.

[vinapu]

few pictures from NongNooch Tropical Gradens

 

 

[1moRussian]

I liked NongNooch too. There are full day tours available too - come with morning bus, leave with returning afternoon tour bus. Have you been to the elefant and folk shows?

I should remember about Good boys, just for a case

No helmet scum - bought twice: one for me for 400 baht, next trip "for him" 1000 baht, BigC/Tesco. The second was bought together - you should do something like that, it's funny (perhaps, you did? As a part of BFE?). All these considerations: right model, right color and price (a bit above that he used to), - that was quite a process!

[vinapu]

I liked NongNooch too. There are full day tours available too - come with morning bus, leave with returning afternoon tour bus. Have you been to the elefant and folk shows?

I should remember about Good boys, just for a case

No helmet scum - bought twice: one for me for 400 baht, next trip "for him" 1000 baht, BigC/Tesco. The second was bought together - you should do something like that, it's funny (perhaps, you did? As a part of BFE?). All these considerations: right model, right color and price (a bit above that he used to), - that was quite a process!

Thanks for the tip for full day tour, will consider next time as half day is not enough even for greenery hater like me.

 

No I did not go to elephant and folk shows ,I'm not big fan of those.

 

I'm glad helmet situation cleared, no I did not go with him nor he suggested I will too, I'm glad I did not , all those consideration  you described would drive me insane. When shopping I'm fast decision maker, the same goes in massage places and bars.  

[vinapu]

Day 7

 

Time to say good bye to Pattaya, breakfast again at Ambiance, boy went to his room to collect his things, I went to mine to pack and we agreed on meeting at bus station at 10.00.

 

Since agreement was that I’m free to entertain other boys at will and my man offered to sleep on the floor in such a case I decided to be humanitarian. Natra Silom where I was returning  to did not  have any free rooms but fast search on Agoda resulted in getting single room for 22.50 $ in Sunflower Place around the corner from Nantra , in the same  soi Super A is located, literally 2 minutes walk between two hotels.

 

I booked it for 4 nights at cost  90$ this way securing place for boy in case his warming bed services will be substituted.

Quite heavy traffic on way to BKK, bus left at 11 and it took us 4 hrs to get to Nantra, Bangkok part being easy thanks to BTS. After we settled at Nantra , went to Sunflower to claim room for boy . surprisingly spacey for single and of good standard. This hotel is to be considered in the future despite scary sign on the door that guests are not allowed.

 

Quick lunch in Foodland Patpong, my favorite dining place in BKK which shows you how much attention I pay to food and return to hotel because I was expecting to meet Xiluzer who occasionally writes in this forum and whom I met in Dec. We happened to be in BKK again in the same time and for two days in the same hotel. He is only member of this forum I met personally so far  who shares my taste in men so we always have a fun visiting places and trading opinions about  what we see on the stage.

 

Few minutes later welcome hugs and I decided to join him and his friends he came to BKK with in their planned escapade to Hero.  My boy was not happy I’m leaving him in the room but was not interested in going with us and I was forced to remind him that idea of coming with me to Bangkok was his and his was promise  to let me to chase boys as much as I want.

 

Hour or two later our  team 6 guys strong  went to soi 11, hearts pumping as always in anticipation of unknown known.

Arrival of such strong contingent caused understandable excitement behind the glass with boys smiling , posing and trying to bring attention to themselves. It was about 6 p.m  and a Saturday but place was not as busy as one would expect. As usual I got my pick pretty fast and it happened to be the same boy I had last Dec, Nut, tattooed and muscular with good manners and even better massage technique. So I left rest of gang still pounding choices and off I went upstairs for an hour of mutilation.

 

On way back walking down soi 11 we had fun comparing  our choices and as expected by Hero we all were happy with whom we landed. Boys went their way and I was rushing to Nantra to console my consolator. He was happy so jealousy was short living it seems. I suggested dinner at Maxis and he agreed , on our way there we stepped by Screwboys because I wanted to check if One, star of my Dec trip returned and my man wanted to see who was my then boyfriend. Unfortunately  for me and to visible relief on my companion I was told he went home for a while and they don’t expect him anytime soon.

 

Namu from Bangkok massage recognized me instantly and told me I have very handsome boyfriend and I  promised him to visit him for massage in near future.  No need to say what I had for dinner and after that I announced I want to see show at Tawan and my boy who would fit in there well expressed interest in going with me there.

 

On arrival we noticed Xiluzer and his gang inside. During show I took an interest in # 51 whom I saw with farang in Dec and did not have a chance to talk to then so now invited him for  drink and after exchanging few kisses and touches here and there we negotiated long time tonight leaving my companion to sleep alone /and skip corresponding  tip / Resigned to his fate he went to his room few minutes later,  being go-go boy himself obviously not that interested in the show, I was rather surprised he even wanted to see it in the first place.

 

At end of show my off went to dress and then bucket of cold water was thrown on me, when  waiter collected money for drinks and off fee my off appeared excusing that he can’t go with me because he needs to go with another customer.

Pissed I was big time  but resigned to my fate I was not even upset with boy since I had no idea if this was his choice or he was told by management to go with that other guy who obviously was well known in the bar being wai’d  by everybody as he moved  around.

 

 So Tawan pissed me off, fortunately Xiluzer and gang still were there so I had arm to cry to while watching my unoffed off happily drinking with that other guy.

When we were leaving I slipped 100 in underwear of # 14, probably smallest of all Tawan boys but muscular enough for me to  pay attention . I liked his hairstyle too / spiky one / and we will hear from him soon.

 

Probably you guessed already that there was somebody very happy that night. Yes , on my way home detoured to Sunflower Place to wake up my boy and grab him with me. Judging by the strength of mutual embrace tonight it can be safely assumed that both of us thought that having boyfriend, no matter how artificial,  is good idea. And so day 7 was gone

[Guest abang1961]

Now I know the plight of a Thai boy....and I cannot be one.

I really don't like the idea of playing second fiddle/spare tyre to someone.

Perhaps this sense of insecurity and rejection is something a Thai sex worker needs to overcome (daily?)

 

Thanks Vinapu for reuniting with this du-jour BF... isn't it a happy ending, after all.....

[vinapu]

Now I know the plight of a Thai boy....and I cannot be one.

I really don't like the idea of playing second fiddle/spare tyre to someone.

Perhaps this sense of insecurity and rejection is something a Thai sex worker needs to overcome (daily?)

 

Thanks Vinapu for reuniting with this du-jour BF... isn't it a happy ending, after all.....

I'm not as cruel as you think. Remember whole idea of 5 day Bangkok vacation was his, down to  sleeping of floor when I will have boys with me. I just rubber stamped what he wanted throwing in separate room and 2 nights together promise.

 

We talked everything over including timing of payments / I wanted to pay as day goes, he wanted all money on last morning claiming that this is best way for him to save it  - I liked idea /    

[Guest abang1961]

Please don't get me wrong..

In fact, you have been too generous to include him in this segment of your trip.

 

I am just highlighting the notion of another "missed" business opportunity of Thai guys.

Vinapu,  how can the boy at Tawan "headed" off with another client after your "inspection"?

[vinapu]

Please don't get me wrong..

In fact, you have been too generous to include him in this segment of your trip.

 

I am just highlighting the notion of another "missed" business opportunity of Thai guys.

Vinapu,  how can the boy at Tawan "headed" off with another client after your "inspection"?

I agree that  it's  a bit of awkward to kick one boy out of bed to make room for another one but that's the fate of rented love.

After all boy is working and paid for it., accepting rules as they were so I don't think there were any hurt feelings on his part.

 

Tawan situation was kind of reverse. I could be pissed off,  after all agreement was sealed  and generous terms agreed.

 

This time boy decided where greener pastures are and dumping me for other. Instead of getting upset i just accepted things as they are which was easy having man of equal beauty available in the room. I'd off #51 in future , he may be one of more popular at the moment as on two subsequent visits  saw him going with patrons. And as mentioned there's always possibility that management told him to go with  other customer instead of me

[forky123]

I love your attitude Vinapu. There's no point in getting angry in those situations, but few people can avoid it.

[1moRussian]

thanks, Vinapu. And great story twist - if it was unreal, you should have invented it!

Not sure what to do first tomorrow: read a new episode of AM BFE or watch a new Game of thrones episode (in Russia will be available on Monday's evening)   

[vinapu]

 

Not sure what to do first tomorrow: read a new episode of AM BFE or watch a new Game of thrones episode (in Russia will be available on Monday's evening)  

posting day 8 right away so you can watch Game tomorrow

[vinapu]

Day 8

 

Morning talk with the boy  : do you like me? I asked, of course I like you that big ( gesture showing how much) but if you buy me gold I love you that much (another  gesture pointing  much , much higher )

 

So far boy behaves but from time to time throws jokingly about need for  gold, his outdated smartphone and a 300 000 baht mega motorcycle, there’s always room for disappointment I quietly sigh on his behalf in those cases.

 

I went for morning stroll through Lumpini and he stay in the room trying to catch some sleep. After late breakfast  I succumbed to a suggestion to go to MBK for shopping even if I did not have anything to buy but obviously boy had.  Quite a pleasure watching him trying those undersized t-shirts and thinking that I have such a beautiful body as company warmed my heart  quite a bit. He bought few items of clothing, I paid of course but it was within reason and certainly I did not feel as ATM.

 

In the afternoon we surveyed Silom , closed to traffic on Sunday and transformed into market place. Is actually quite a fun and not as congested as Chatuchak. Again I feel good noticing few glances and head turns when some farangs were passing my man which upon return to the hotel translated for 500 baht stipend for him to buy himself bottle of white wine he likes since I had other designs for the evening.

 

At 7 p.m. Christian PFC appeared in the lobby as agreed previously, visited us briefly in the room and I left boy there, both us farangs went to Madrid restaurant in Patpong for a treat of pizza and they have it very good there. I’m not big pizza eater but truly enjoyed it spiced with interesting conversation we always have with Christian. With full stomachs we surveyed soi Twilight not stopping anywhere longer than went to Screwboys, my heart still bleeding missing One, my December Hero  who went home to Laos. I invited boy I offed on my 2^nd night for  a drink a few indecent touches  to sit with us but after hour or so in the bar we left empty handed heading at Christian suggestion to Super A in soi 6.

 

Bar is famous for being dark inside but not that dark  some cuties there can be overlooked. Christian immediately draw attention of some skillful masseur who kept him company for  a while and I switched to twink mode inviting one of them from stage to sit with me. Drinks are 100 baht only and off fee is 500 but reduced to 400 if drinks is purchased.

 

Boy did not waste much time to inform me they have room upstairs but with 200 m distance to my hotel I did not even entertain option and decided to give  boy a chance to shine in my room and off we went  ,  me with twink, go figure.

 

I liked an experience , unfortunately boy had day time job so before we left a bar I knew he will not stay past 1.30 and at that time  I sent him home with tip and 100  baht taxi money . We agreed to meet again at 6 in the evening for a dinner with my man and some fun together, three of us.

 

No feeling sleepy I did round of Patpong and soi Twilight, I like to watch half naked workers disassembling market stalls in the middle of the  night at Patpong, quite a sight. 

Returned to bed alone for a good night sleep curious how this threesome, first for me ,will turn out. If you don’t try you don’t know, right? And day 8 was over.

[Guest LoveThailand]

You are a master of suspence, Vinapu. Who would have thought?

[hanan]

Super A in soi 6

Drinks are 100 baht only and off fee is 500 but reduced to 400 if drinks is purchased.

 

I liked an experience , unfortunately boy had day time job so before we left a bar I knew he will not stay past 1.30 and at that time  I sent him home with tip and 100  baht taxi money .

 

How much is normal expected tip for the boy in that bar? In soi Twilight it´s 2000 baht for short time nowadays, which make those bars just being rip-offs of chinese tourists and others who don´t know better or don´t care. Would be interesting to know what the boys in Super A, Nature boys and Golden cock expect.

[Guest]

How much is normal expected tip for the boy in that bar? In soi Twilight it´s 2000 baht for short time nowadays, which make those bars just being rip-offs of chinese tourists and others who don´t know better or don´t care. Would be interesting to know what the boys in Super A, Nature boys and Golden cock expect.

Soi Twilight must pick up lots of tourists & business visitors who don't know what the going rate is and of course the bar boys learn to ask for more. As we all would if in that situation.

However, I still believe the going rate starts from about 1500, even if many will ask for more.

I think I tipped 1600 last time. He seemed happy enough and didn't even try to haggle the price upwards.

 

The last poll run here wasn't saying 2000, so unless there has been some rapid inflation?