Off to Thailand again - December 2014 trip

[vinapu]

Day 2 continued,

 

I just noticed that Christian posted his impressions from last night  but decided  to create some fun for readers  and will post this  before I will read his account. We will see how different eyes are looking at the same thing at the same time. I'm curious too to see comparison.

 

But first on my way to Banana I went to see Guy Spa in soi 19 and truly I'm comfirniming that place is closed and lobby already demolished although sign in still hanging on the building.

 

Walked to Banana which is in the same soi 11 where Hero is. More boys on display than on two previous visits but I did not care as I went to see Tao. Last time he delivered one of best 3 massages I had / other two being at Magic Hands and Sun/ .

 

He is trained at Wat Po itself and let me tell you , it shows. Allowed him to mutilate me but really felt difference, originally ordered 1.5 hr become 2 as I needed some caressing time, one can suffer  only that much but it was truly great massage and repeat is in the cards.

Two hours massage 800, I tipped 2000 which is probably twice of their minimum tip for that time frame but has feeling that I got plenty for my buck so let him have it as they say. Kevin, owner there is great and informative guy, I already said it before that place is underrated.

 

Than back to Tarntawan for previously announced meeeting with Christian PFC. Made some arangements with instructions of how he will recognize me but actually it was not neccesary.

 

 First things first , we went to Patpong to have a dinner, place is called Madrid / correct me Christian if I'm wrong / and is surprisingly decent with even better food considering location in very Patpong soi 1 , not normally considered for gourment food. Again proven that quality of food depends of ingredients and cook , not address and ambiance.

 

Short stroll to Screwboys but no activities as it was too early, Christian had eyes on some boys seen previously and I was hopping to see number 2 I missed last year, I don't remember why I was hunting for him but certainly I was. But he was late for work on tat day and it was day of my departure.

 So we went to Nature boys taking longer route through soi twilight. At Nature Boys same same , too early. It's never too early fot Golden Cock, our next stop. 3  boys on the stage, few more entertaining eledrly farang, a bit youger one arrived shorlty after us , must be regular because  fly zip entertainment started almost as soon as he sat down.

 

I found one boy a bit attractive if pressed for a tryst but generally none apealed to me so it be a while before I visit I guess. But with drink prices half of soi Twilight certainly place has some appeal certified by it's longevity.

 Returned to Nature Boys, first visit for me since 2002 I guess . Three boys on duty, one clearly overfed , may appeal for chasers of chubbies but nothing for me  even if he tried to show his assets through underwear , even smile did not help.

 

Another one plain vanilla and of age ,  again no appealing , third one may be would do  but did not even bother to undress and show on the stage and it lokks that most attractive of the bunch was mamasan. Drinks 150 , same price like Golden Cock  but both bars that night were time wasters for me, not that I'm trying to  discourage anybody from trying, lesson learned shortly after where we went back to Screwboys and realized that we see the same boys through different glasses. So one's boredom may be somebody else fun and that's beauty of life, certainly I'm in no rush to return to those two bars.

 

Upon retun things at Screwboys were picking up, several boys rotating on the stage, few clients, one entertained from both sides by two boys and I mean  adventurously entertained , definitely they managed to get erection from him and hopefully corresponding tips.

 

Christian was ogling two boys, skiny twinks I wouldn't look at, I while waiting for nr 2 who never showed up placed my designs on nr 41, stocky and muscly, my type of boy . Christian charitable comment on him was "waaay to fat for me ". So now we see first hand  what recommendations are worth, doesn't matter who says what you need to see for yourself. I'm glad I did and hope Christian said the same / still did not read his account /.

 

I meantime Christian being split betwen his two twinks, I'm focusing on 41 and noticed that 34 is foccusing on me. That's not pleasant situation , nothing wrong with 34, handsome and slender but I want 41 who I had impression is trying to avoid my  eyes  while 34 is hoisting his smile upon me. At least we are spoilt for choice / I'd consider at least 5 boys offable on top of those two /

 

Finally Christian decided to count bones on number 89 leaving 67 in the dust, they left  me to measure fat count on 41and show started. Mamasan pressing me to choose / good luck to him , I already did / , suggested one of the  boys but deal was cooked , 41 looked at me and smiled, I waved him over and had company to watch the show.

 

In meantime clared with the boy that he kisses and is available for long time, all I need to know. Mamasan translated because his English is very limited unfortunately.

As for show  usual lip sync singing, two boys with erect cocks doing their semi-dance , first separately and in second number together, no sex , no oral but definitlely cock on display.

 

All of 30-40 minutes so quite entertaining , not too long and long enough to  warm up before taking off.

Talked to mamasan about  tips etc, very informative and did not try to avoid answers.

Short time 2-3 hrs, long time at least till 6 a.m. short time tip 1500, long time 2500 and more if you like the boy. So common wisdom confirmed, nothing hew here but they are always newbies looking for that info.

 

Screwboys   off fee 450, Christian paid 550 as his choice was coyote dancer, if you ever call him cheap I gladly will be witness to his defence. Drinks 300 ,  boy drinks same.  I tipped server 50 , mamasan 50 and unfortunate 34 100 baht for his smiles.

 

Short stroll to Tarntawan and let me tell you I'm glad I took this boy, body adorable,  not Tawan type hunk , rather farmer's son with manly face, strong muscles. I had my fun, boy had his tip increased to 3000 as he was sporting hard before I even joined him the shower - my customary tip fort that is 500. I liked way he was clinging to me whole night and this must be repeated soon.Only thing  I was missing was conversation as his English is poor but he understood when I told him 'you are beautiful' and knew what to do.  He left at 8 after breakfast at the hotel. First time ever I gave him 100 for taxi, he did not ask but I had this urge to do so. And then day 3 started. Now time to read Christian's post and I'm not here

[xiluzer]

Having fun i see.. ha ha

[Guest abang1961]

Vinapu, as the proverb says, "One man's meat is another man's poisson (French for fish)..

Some preferred the super-skinny, small-build while others would like to have a little meat on the boys..

[vinapu]

Vinapu, as the proverb says, "One man's meat is another man's poisson (French for fish)..

Some preferred the super-skinny, small-build while others would like to have a little meat on the boys..

and this is perfect, only point I'm trying to make is that any recommendation must be taken with caution  for the reason stated by you. It looks that both ChristianPFC and me had good time last night even if we did not like each other's election.

 

And is not even worth deliberating about right and wrong because this is not an issue.

 

It only means for readers of this thread  that not neccessarily my recommendations will work for them and places/boys I did not like they may find endearing.

 

Fresh input to discussion will be my next post from Shape Spa I just returned from happy

[biguyby]

 

 

Fresh input to discussion will be my next post from Shape Spa I just returned from happy

 

Looking forward to your massage reports -  my favourite

[Guest]

Probably best not to off Screwboys #67 until ~26 January or thereabouts.

[ChristianPFC]

Sleeping with the boy (Tharnar, Tana - two short a - ทนะ, 19/50/175) was fine, activity in the morning as well. Showering together in the morning - not just sharing the shower, but washing each other. Lunch together, during which I enquire: he has been working in Screw Boys for 2 months (but I didn't notice him on two previous visits; but then the boy Dto I was looking for wasn't there on my two last visits). Tip him 2200 (which is very generous by my standards, based on long time tip 2000, that would be the third boy I tip over the going rate; only now do I learn that the going rate is 2500 for lt, will inquire next time). My highest tip ever and highest total cost (2200+550=2750).

 

I have the boy's phone number and Line, so there might be repeats if we can come to a pre- or post work arrangement and a repeat customer discount (I have 1000 Baht for short time in mind).

[vinapu]

Probably best not to off Screwboys #67 until ~26 January or thereabouts.

what disease does he have? or you locked him in ?

 

Sleeping with the boy (Tharnar, Tana - two short a - ทนะ, 19/50/175) was fine, activity in the morning as well. Showering together in the morning - not just sharing the shower, but washing each other. Lunch together, during which I enquire: he has been working in Screw Boys for 2 months (but I didn't notice him on two previous visits; but then the boy Dto I was looking for wasn't there on my two last visits). Tip him 2200 (which is very generous by my standards, based on long time tip 2000, that would be the third boy I tip over the going rate; only now do I learn that the going rate is 2500 for lt, will inquire next time). My highest tip ever and highest total cost (2200+550=2750).

 

I have the boy's phone number and Line, so there might be repeats if we can come to a pre- or post work arrangement and a repeat customer discount (I have 1000 Baht for short time in mind).

This meeting of ours was great idea as it seems we both win. I may be looking for repeat with 47 very soon. Life is short

[vinapu]

Day 3

started with stroll through Lumpini park. Fish in ponds and monitor lizzards returned , saw some. At the gym spotted at least one Tawan  boy, one who was humiliatee in S/M number of their show so certainly one can look for luck there.

 

Rest  of the morning lazy, I always say I don't like better hotels because it's hard to leave room.

 

Afternoon started with lunch at the same place we were with Christian yesterday and the same dish like I'm on monodiet of chicken cashew nuts.

 

Than hop to BTS and I'm on my way to Shape Spa on Thonburi side. Tried to locate it last trip , couldn't and no better luck today, circled whole block, still nothinhg

Then decided to check something like driweway to the garage and here it goes, bi prominenet and visible sign "SHAPE club and spa"

 

So here are directions how to  get there: decamp at Wongwian Yai BTS, take covered walkway to the busy Taksin intersection / 5 mins /

there looking south you will notice busy street with two pedestrian overpasses, take either side and walk to the SECOND overpass, just north of it is LG Building. Standing at front of building you will notice parking driveway on the right side , just go and you will see it. DO NOT take driway at Shell station, that's too far.

 

Few boys outside, very handsome manager at the desk in the lobby and I mean it. Mamasan called over and shows with price list and book with pictures of boys, not wasting time is asking if I'm top or bottom, than we go through pictures , boy selected. Since it's Sunday decided to splurge on 1500, 2 hr scrub / massage / ozone jacuzzi treatment.

 

They ensured I understand minimum tip of 1000 requrement and were happy I understand.

Passable English spoken by all 3 I was dealing with

 

Boy escorting me upstairs to spacious room with separate bathroom, is asking me to take a shower while he picks up supplies and after a while shows stark naked. Certainly they know business and a customer service there and I liked what I saw although boy on younger side , 20 y/o.

 

Everything went according to the scriptures and I had good time and boy  a good tip /1500 /. Of course invited him to share jacuzzi with me , not that he was trying not to.

After such a treatment it was easy walk back to BTS.

 

Definitely I'd recommend the place for something out of regulat Silom ghetto albeit not really thet far - 5 stops and 15 minutes walk from Sala Daeng. I liked their straight questions/anwers approach, no BS ' up to you ' and you finish up overpaying or leave boy with impression you are cheapskate.

 

Next step to soi Twilight with design of seeing Dreamboy show and taking Namu from Bangkok Massage for the night but not that fast. After securing his agreement for the long time off on my way to the bar noticed boy at Bonny who smiled at me on my first morning walk after I arrived. With one hour to spare I did not waste a chance and off we went. 1 hr oil 600, mimimum tip the same , increasing by 100 for every 1/2 hr after that.

 

Great massage and time together, my favourite are boys on ticklish side as wrestling with their oiled bodies trying to escape my hands is my way to paradise. Very polite with some English good enough to converse a bit. Place was busy Sunday night - we were waiting for the shower. Since my usual tip for massage is 1000, I  was happy to add 200 to that.

Not much of day 3 left but later about that because last 1.5 were not boring at all.

[firecat69]

How long are you in Thailand and when are you visiting Pattaya???

 

What is next Hotel???

[vinapu]

How long are you in Thailand and when are you visiting Pattaya???

 

What is next Hotel???

check PM

[vinapu]

day 3 continued

After Bonny went to Dreamboys just in time to show to start. Drink now 400, increase from 380 last time. House was packed, 2/3 Asians1/3 farangs. Very few ladies and behaving at that.

 

I liked show, no acrobatics , nor even simulated  sex part but big cock show still on, parade of katoeys dressed and undressed, amusnig number with collapsed hunter , member of audience asked to perform role of doctor and even asked to check status of victims erect member, but he dilined unwisely, ladyboy cleraly told him it will be for free but guy clearly felt uncomfortable doing i in public , I'm not surprised.

During break parade of may be dozen of go-gos in undies , some familiar faces and bulges. One recognized me  but did not remember where and when we met, got 100 to help him fighting memory loss athough it was not particular encounter I remember fondly. No , no chance he lands me this year no matter that he is sporting beautiful smile. I was looking for #76 Yo , but did not see him until in one of later numbers he or at least somebody look- alike    him appeared as performer. Great body as before. This is good reason for me to investigate. I'm not disapointed with Dreamboys again

 

At one moment across the scene I noticed familar face - my masseur from Banana from yesterday in company of farang, I dare to say, not  a bad looking farang. We exchanged knowing  smiles.

 

I left after end of show at 11.45 to pick up Namu as promised. I like their mamasans and always when at Bankok Massage I extract hughs from them for consideration of 100, just for fun.

 

It's always good to have somebody who knows you and what you like so very pleasant night and early moning , than a bit of sleep. At 9.00  breakfast together at Tartawan reception and time for Namu to leave and for me to pack as I'm moving to Take-A-Nap. And this is how day 4 started.

[vinapu]

Day 4

left luxuries of Tarntawan for spartan Take-a-nap , just beside  BBB Inn where 3 nights cost me less than 1 night at Tarntawan but there's price to pay, room cell- like but with window, A/C working but slow but they are trying hard to make stay comfortable, there's coffee maker and working room safe, old fashioned  TV set and beer on reception costs 40 baht , not 130 from mini-bar in the room. So I'd say fair trade.

 

At 2.30 highest level meeting with visiting contributor to this forum over the lunch at Dick's. We established than we are not in competition for the same type of boys so may even continue discussion in the soi later today. After we parted way I went o Sukhumvit soi 39 close to Pnom Prom /?/ BTS station , exit 3  .

 

This is where Waterworks spa is located, short walk though the soi , in about 5 mins there's Philippe restaurant on teh corner of small sub-soi where at the end Spa is located. Picked up 2 courses- 95 mins of massage followed up bu 30 mins of jaccuzzi treatment , total cost 2040,  minimum tip for  1 treatment 700 , for 2 like mine 800.

 

It was only one boy available at 4.30 so no choice at the moment  but saw 2 farangs departing at the same time like me so likely they were busy.

 I was treated in the VIP room with massage table  , jacuzzi, shower , toilet,  another table for multiple shower treatment were located, all in one quite spacious room.  Massage table luxurious with hole for the head, boy undressed himself promptly, wrapped in the towel which was shed next time I checked , say in 5 minutes. Massage requested strong and delivered with abundant access to desired boy's body parts. Than jacuzzi where fun continued.

 

For me it was new experience, believe me or not I was in this thing first time, this was reason for picking up that treatment.

 

All I can say with insert of boy inside jacuzzi is a great thing, but why people are paying to install those  sophisticated tubs in their houses is and always will be beyond me.

Tipped boy 1500, well deserved or massage  and fun delivered.

 

I'm glad I went, don' be discouraged  by prices quoted as I picked up most expensive and longest treatments and cheaper fun can be had there , certainly different from all massage places  we usually frequent. More to come for day 4 as it's only 8.15 pm. here.   

[Guest]

After lunch together earlier in the day, Vinapu and I visited Classic Boys. I arrived around 9:30pm & had to move a couple of pushy waiters on before Vinapu joined (zero tip for them).

The big news is the jeans have gone and it's back to the good old speedos.

(They were in jeans 1 week earlier, so I didn't stay then).

 

Vinapu advises thst I have near identical tastes to ChristianPFC, which is no geat surprise after reading all Christian's report.

One very cute guy got offed just as I arrived and another nice one spent the whole time sat with a customer.

There were about 3 or 4 serious candidates left on stage. After about 40 minutes, I invited 43 over, as usual done with eye contact and a gesture towards the empty seat next to me. As he spoke rather good English, the mamasans were also completely redundant for the following discussion.

Fortunately the ID card was in order, obviously a recent one, with a chip and a clear photo that looked exactly like him. Surprisingly over 25, despite a small slim frame

 

He had been working in Pattaya, but moved up to Bangkok as there are more customers (offs most nights). When asked which do you like best Pattaya or Bankok?, the reply came back "Bangkok".

Why? "Too many Russians in Pattaya".

Drinks 350x2, off fee 600, short time tip 1700, mamasan/waiter tip 0.

 

Nice selection of boys, music slightly too loud & too many waiters.

Also learnt that a lot of their boys are from Laos and Vietnam. Thankfully my Thai friend likes them.

 

Vinapu move on elsewhere, in search of muscle? Hopefully we'll meet up again in a few days.

[Guest LoveThailand]

Thank you for continuing reporting, Vinapu.

And for 2 new places I have added to my list - Waterworks and Shape Spa.

Will definitely check both on my next trip.

[williewillie]

In general, the Russians have very little interest in Thai guys. They are interested in other Russian guys and almost

never tip, off or even flit with the Thai boys. It is so repressive in Russia, they come to Pattaya to be free from their

nightmarish gay hating society and the warm weather and beaches also entice.

The Thai guys would starve if they depended on the Russians.

[forrestreid]

Vinapu, are you sure you didn't mean "Waternest Spa" in Soi 39, rather than the "Waterworks spa"?

According to Google, there is no such place as the "Waterworks spa" in that Soi, but there is a place called "Waternest" with several cute masseurs!

[biguyby]

Thanks for the report Vinapu, the Waterworks Spa sounds fantastic. I would love to be pampered like you describe and finished off in a jacuzzi with cute masseur to assist me. Unfortunately the prices you quote are outside my budget even as a one off.

 

Great to hear you're having lots of fun.

[vinapu]

Thank you for continuing reporting, Vinapu.

And for 2 new places I have added to my list - Waterworks and Shape Spa.

Will definitely check both on my next trip.

wait for today's report, investigating later another place recommended by pong long time ago

[vinapu]

In general, the Russians have very little interest in Thai guys. They are interested in other Russian guys and almost

never tip, off or even flit with the Thai boys. It is so repressive in Russia, they come to Pattaya to be free from their

nightmarish gay hating society and the warm weather and beaches also entice.

The Thai guys would starve if they depended on the Russians.

this makes sense and I'd  not blame them for that for reasons you explained so well.

 

I think is great that such big chunk of moneyed visitors is not in the competition for boys with us

 

there are rumors that Krazy Dragon will reincarnate under Russian/Ukrainian ownership, may be it will be place of Russian/Thai consolation

[vinapu]

Vinapu, are you sure you didn't mean "Waternest Spa" in Soi 39, rather than the "Waterworks spa"?

According to Google, there is no such place as the "Waterworks spa" in that Soi, but there is a place called "Waternest" with several cute masseurs!

Of course you are right it is WATERNEST Spa in soi 39, my appologies, no idea where I got this waterworks name  from, thank you for a correction

[vinapu]

Thanks for the report Vinapu, the Waterworks Spa sounds fantastic. I would love to be pampered like you describe and finished off in a jacuzzi with cute masseur to assist me. Unfortunately the prices you quote are outside my budget even as a one off.

 

Great to hear you're having lots of fun.

you can have just a jacuzzi treatment for something like 590. i have a coupon from them for 600 1 hr massage if somebody in LOS interested , contact me , can give it to you. They are not cheapest but standard is different from say, Sun massage beside Tawan

[williewillie]

Shocking drop in value of Russian currency will shake up the hordes of Russian visitors this high season. Many will be forced to change plans.

Freezing temperatures and ugly repression will still be a strong lure for gay men, but very difficult when your currency loses so

much value. Pattaya real estate market will feel it but the Thai boys will hardly notice, except favorite Russian boy beer bars, like Serene Bar in Boyztown, will feel the impact.

 

New mega condo developments may go belly up. Time will tell, of course.

This post reminds me of the Chicken Little story.

[vinapu]

Day 4 continued

As z909 reported I joined him in Classic. I confirm , no more jeans at that bar, all boys in individually chosen undies.

 

It needs to be said that with him, and Christian PFC I can visit any bar at any time as there will be no competition between us for boys. He reported what he saw , looking at the same scene out of 20 I'd consider only one and even this just to avoid starvation.

 

After I spent 1/2 hr there and finished my beer look become more rosy but still no more than 5. After z909 got his company I departed as usual tipping 100 most attractive boy in the assembly, for me it was originally acceptable #60.

 

And went to Screwboys hoping that #47 from two night ago will be there but disaster struck me at the door. Only few boys on stage and no customers at all and #47 already gone home. Ordered drink to drown in frustration but mamasan helpfully offered  to call the boy and announced that he is heading for taxi. Few minutes after  joyful reunion, boy not hungry, just thirsty so we can have a beer at the hotel, Take A Nap sells beer in the lobby for 40 $, few baht more than 7/11. Off fee  500 , it was 450 just on Saturday !?!

 

For part of way  from Patpong 2 to hotel l was forced to march hand holding and believe me it was not my idea. can't say I felt comfortable but what the heck. let the world share my joy.

 

Again great company . I was hoping he will stay at least till 7 but around 6 he announced in no uncertain terms "I go home ten'.

It was my second longest off ever and repeat is already scheduled, definitely he was on his way of devising "101 ways to wrap around vinapu" and in those 10 hrs or so we were on 77th figure I guess. I don't think he is even gay but definitely professional with good feeling what I want and delivering with gusto.   No wonder he is using nickname ONE, he should. We ticked together big time , long live Christian for dragging me to Screwboys another night / he did not as I was planning to go and check on now non-existing  number 2. So day 4 finished at 10 in the morning with 3000 well earned tip  and again 100 of taxi money / he did not asked  but I felt generous.

and now will start day 5 

[vinapu]

Shocking drop in value of Russian currency will shake up the hordes of Russian visitors this high season. Many will be forced to change plans.

Freezing temperatures and ugly repression will still be a strong lure for gay men, but very difficult when your currency loses so

much value. Pattaya real estate market will feel it but the Thai boys will hardly notice, except favorite Russian boy beer bars, like Serene Bar in Boyztown, will feel the impact.

 

New mega condo developments may go belly up. Time will tell, of course.

This post reminds me of the Chicken Little story.

since this is thread I originated I need to state that I don't mind Russian visitors on Pattaya and everyelse although my Pattaya stay was 2 day only so may be I did not gather statistic sample big enough.

 

I guess we all have our idiosyncrasies, if you ask me I when travel try to avoid Swiss visitors - reason , on three separate occasions spread over 10 years in three different countries on three continents Swiss travelers asked me for short time loan to be repaid same or the latest next day  / like paying for dinner or admission, they forgot money and we were living in the same hotel so no problem to lent 20 $ / and never bothered , on one occasion knowing what flight they will be flying out just for fun I went to the airport to claim my 5000 Chilean  peso  / then roughly 12.50 $/.

 

And no, I'm neither Russian nor Swiss