Guest Prakanong Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 The high standard I mentioned refers to the expectation that posters do not make things up. That's surely the least we can expect from our fellow members. If we take the stance that it doesn't really matter if a post is truthful or just pure BS the credibility of the board flies out the window. That was my issue with Michael. And no, Michael, I'm not upset with you; just expressing an opinion. Credibility of the board...hmmm. Sounds grand but far too arbitrary, IMO. How do you measure it, besides sniffing out untruthful posters? Surely that can't be the only criterion. How you decide what's truthful or not? Would a gang of four old boys' club members make a good jury? What about the free will of the readers, that they can decide for themselves what's truthful and what's not - should we discard that and assume we should spell out everything for them? Should we also gang up on stupid posters, dull posters, posters with no backbone, control freaks, show-off posters, posters with bad grammar, posters who exhibit pedophile tendencies, posters who only write about prostitutes and offs in the name of protecting the board's credibility? "Expectation that posters don't make things up?" Oh man, are you serious? On a board like this? About my beloved Thailand - where fantasy is the name of the game? Quote
Gaybutton Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Without adopting that condescending tone of yours, I just want to say that Thailand has very strict criminal defamation laws that do not require a civil suit. It's the state prosecutor that decides to pursue the case and he/she does not have to prove malice. With the law being randomly applied towards foreigners (and even Thais) as it is, I wouldn't take my chances. Really? Why, I had no idea. I'll pay much more attention to you once you figure out how to use MultiQuote. Quote
Up2u Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 As bkkguy noted many posts ago "Don't feed the TROLLS". Quote
vinapu Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I admit to being naive when it comes to the Asian boys...far too trusting. .... reminds us of the need to be vigilant. I still strongly believe that is better to be too trusting than spoil one's vacation with paranoia about possible theft. Possibly fact that for any trip anywhere I never take anything I couldn't lose helps. Quote
vinapu Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I don't have a reason to even read his posts, or yours, for that matter. All I'm saying is that pedantic statements like that can come back and bite you in the ass later. I still appreciate fact that you read and even respond to my posts even if you don't have reason to read them / I know how to use multiquote but rarely use it as I feel that responding to each post separately is more conversation like so you not alone in not using it / Quote
a447a Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Prakanong, you have totally misunderstood my post. I spoke of the EXPECTATION that posts be truthful, not that all posts ARE truthful. If I go to a restaurant, I EXPECT good food, but that doesn't necessarily mean it IS. And no, we shouldn't "gang up on stupid posters, dull posters, posters ...." We have the option to stop reading such posts. A poster does not have to write overly exciting posts or be particularly intelligent in order to post truthfully. That has nothing to do with it. Again, you've missed the point. vinapu 1 Quote
Guest FatRichard Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I think things are turning nasty here and appeal to moderates to delete this all thread vinapu I've spent the last 10 minutes reading this thread and I find it very interesting. I've not seen anything particularly nasty - some gentle ribbing, sure, but that's what gets the argument going. I don't know what I would have done had I been in the OP's position - panic probably! Whatever...what a pity if this thread had been deleted because you thought it was "nasty". I mean you could take a447a's advice and choose not to read it. I like the way this thread has morphed into a discussion of the way message boards are run, what we can expect from them, cyber bullying, etc. Quote
bkkguy Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Without adopting that condescending tone of yours, I just want to say .... Really? Why, I had no idea. I'll pay much more attention to you once you figure out how to use MultiQuote. Like Prakanong I won't adopt that condescending tone of yours, but I am reminded of a recent US study that showed that different (US) regional accents can have a significant impact on the speaker's perceived credibility - I have never heard you speak so don't know your accent ... but then I don't think I really need to anyway! bkkguy Quote
bkkguy Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 As bkkguy noted many posts ago "Don't feed the TROLLS". next it will be a hydra accusation and another new user's career will be successfully nipped in the bud and all the usual suspects can continue to build their own egos in safety in an environment supposedly based on "straightforward mature behavior, civility and courtesy that you find in a neighborhood Pub or Tavern where neighbors and acquaintances joined by occasional strangers come together to socialize in good temper, to share conversation" - we have certainly NOT seen a lot of that in this thread and despite some opposition claims this forum is an old boys club, the occasional stranger is NOT welcome! and "occasional stranger" is not my words, it is straight from the Message Center policies - obviously the old boys feel threatened by too many strangers invading their territory! bkkguy Quote
bkkguy Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I have yet to ever see a single post from you about anything you've ever done in Thailand, anyplace you've ever been in Thailand, a single restaurant review or recommendation, a bar you've ever been to, an answer to anybody's questions about anything at all in Thailand, a single experience you've ever had in Thailand, a single post that shows you have ever so much as set foot in Thailand, or anything other than these typical posts you come up with. I have read your posts ad nauseam with your pontifications about places you have been to in Thailand, bars, restaurants, your experiences etc and you don't seem particularly interested in any posts that do not agree with your opinion so why should I bother - and even when I do you selectively block them out and claim I have never posted them and no I am not going to provide you a list - look it up for yourself, you are the claiming they are not there! bkkguy Quote
Gaybutton Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 and no I am not going to provide you a list - look it up for yourself, you are the claiming they are not there! Here's another helping of troll food for you: I would have said "Nice try" if it even was a nice try. It's just another lame, predictable, typical cop out response from you. Still nothing you've posted indicates you've ever so much as set foot in Thailand. You get the last word if you want it. I'm done with this topic. We're not even on topic anymore. Quote
vinapu Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 and "occasional stranger" is not my words, it is straight from the Message Center policies - obviously the old boys feel threatened by too many strangers invading their territory! Everybody is welcome but I found it fascinating that quite a few members decided to start being active on the forum just to join commotion in this thread instead of usual travel and boy's tip questions. Perhaps you with membership dating back to 2006 can shed some light of what 's the reason. colmx 1 Quote
colmx Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I found it fascinating that quite a few members decided to start being active on the forum just to join commotion in this thread instead of usual travel and boy's tip questions. ++11 Vinapu Seems that more than 1 troll (or possibly the same troll with multiple "hydra" personalities) has realised that the mods and powerful voices on this board are easier to fool than those on the other forums... Which is a pity as i always came here for the gentlemans discussions and went to the other boards for the edgier threads... Edit: At least this troll topic has been kept to the one thread - so maybe i do the mods a dis-service in my comment above... vinapu 1 Quote
ChristianPFC Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 When I started to post, I was accused of being a troll a few times, hence I am lenient with trolls. I can well imagine a newbie being scared by threats of police. I have been threatened with police three times (two Thais and one Farang), two of them drunk. All outside my room, so I can just laugh and walk away. Such threats are from a position of weakness, as a last resort. It's like a barking dog, he want's to see your reaction, whether you show fear or not. If such thing happened in my room (or hotel room), I would tell the boy to leave, and shove him out if he doesn't go (I am bigger than the average Thai I date). I had three boys being angry with me and write "fuck you", but that was based on misunderstandings, now they all would go with me. vinapu 1 Quote
