its not the same in pattaya any longer

[firecat69]

The OP ran away so I guess we were not feeding him what he liked. I cannot imagine a Thaiboy telling me fuck you on Gayromeo.

 

Most I ever got was "you lie to me" because I did not contact them the next day. To that I plead Guilty!

[kokopelli]

The OP ran away so I guess we were not feeding him what he liked. I cannot imagine a Thaiboy telling me fuck you on Gayromeo.

 

Most I ever got was "you lie to me" because I did not contact them the next day. To that I plead Guilty!

Can't recall exact words but to the effect of FU or piss off or get lost.  My friend the GR authority did tell the boy that he just lost the richest farang in Pattaya by being so rude which made me laugh and the boy cry.

 

I just stick to the go-go bars and personal references and massage houses and let GR to others.

[Guest]

 I did have someone threaten to call the police in Prague.  We had a greed a fee in advance.  Performance & attitude were poor, then he wanted 33% above the agreed fee to leave the room. Prague is not what it was.

 

As I was forcibly ejecting him from the room without paying his 33% surcharge, he accused me of hitting him and threatened to cause the police. 

I told him he was welcome to call them and he left shortly afterwards. 

[vinapu]

OP - you're so full of shit your eyes are brown ! 

 

I never heard this , thank you for  a very good laugh Nirish !

 

 

I just stick to the go-go bars and personal references and massage houses and let GR to others.

you are not alone

 

 

 

 

While I do not have any experience with GR , firecat is my authority in this respect and if he had doubts about credibility of OP he must be right as long as I'm concerned.

 

But we should thank OP for creating an opportunity for such a lively discussion.

As Italians say ' si non e vero , e ben trovato'  / even if not true, at least well invented /

[TotallyOz]

I have had the same thing as the OP stated happen to a friend of mine one time.  It was a big mess and it was my first tirps to Thailand and I didn't know the country, had no one I knew there.  But, my friend just walked out of the room with the guy and left the hotel for him to complain all he wanted. This was in Bangkok and not Pattaya and from a guy at one of the boy bars on Soi Twilight. My friend was young and naive and didn't know what else to do.

 

In Brazil, I have had guys ask for more money on several occassions.  I try to be very upfront on the rate and the price. But, when I first went there and to Thailand, I was fresh meat and a real scam artist can smell that a mile away. Most of us are very old time guys who have done this a lot.  But, the guys who are crooks can smell a new guy a mile away.

 

On my last trip to Brazil, I found a true superstar at Lagoa in Sao Paulo.  He asked for 500 R.  That is 10 times the going rate but I was a gringo and he thought he could get it.  I laughed at him. (stupid in hinesight)   But, after a few days he saw I was there and spending money and he came over to my table with a drink he bought for me and said, "Lets start again."  OK. I was impressed and paid more than the going rate but not 10 times that rate.

 

Sometimes things like this happen.  Why so much doubt for the OP?

 

One that that many new guys say is they post their experience and others doubt it. I understand this and I have my own doubts but I have also heard of simillar experiences.

[williewillie]

If he posted the gayromeo name of the boy, all would be ok. His very lame excuse showed his true colors. As stated earlier,

Bullshit brown.

[TotallyOz]

I get so sick of people accussing new posters of being scammers (admitedly many are). But, I hate even worse the old timers who try to rule by directive.  "Give me the name or you are lying."   Well, a board poster should be able to choose what he or she posts and regardless of the accuracy, intelligent people can make up their minds. 

 

People complain about the lack of posting and then when a good thread comes along, they attack.

 

Fucking insane to think one can have it both ways unless there is another agenda at play.

 

This is not an old boys club.  Everyone should be welcome and regardless of their first post or 1,000th post, believe what you will or not.  But, at least give them 20 or more threads to see if they are trolls or not.

[firecat69]

Sorry but Nothing rang true in OP's post.

 

From things have changed and boys don't give same service anymore (wrong) to political changes has effected boys (ridiculous), most have no idea what is going on.

 

To he was overwhelmed with responses (ridiculous). I have doing this for years, maybe get 1 or 2 responses from boys where I have not initiated the conversation.

 

An hour long conversation (ridiculous) 99% of That boys could not carry on a conversation for that long and a money boy for sure would not waste the time.

 

The list goes on and on. If he wanted to protect us he would have given us the profile of the boy. Period end of story!

 

He was using it as an indictment of Social Media vs. Bars.

[Gaybutton]

Sorry but Nothing rang true in OP's post.

 

I agree with firecat69's entire post.  This guy was far too obvious. 

 

If someone is going to submit a post about a bad experience with a Gay Romeo boy, then in my opinion he needs to include the Gay Romeo profile name of the boy or don't write the post.  I fail to see what purpose is served, other than a personal agenda, without including which boy he's talking about.  There is also no way for the boy to tell his side of the story.

 

I realize that some people have had bad experiences.  It's extremely rare for something like that to happen, but I do personally know a couple farang who have had a boy try to shake them down.  The difference is they had no problem about saying which boy it was.

 

In one case it turned out that I knew the boy being accused.  He had been over at my place several times - you know, to discuss the historical significance of the Peloponnesian War - and I had never had anything other than a wonderful time with him.  His story was a little different from the one told by the farang.

[Bob]

He had been over at my place several times - you know, to discuss the historical significance of the Peloponnesian War... 

 

Somewhat strange topic but perhaps you're getting VA benefits from that war? 

[Gaybutton]

perhaps you're getting VA benefits from that war? 

 

No.  I was too old to fight in that one . . .

[Guest LoveThailand]

In contrast to my previous visits this time I am planning on trying out GR/line/whatsap.

Will report back experiences (good and bad as the case may be). And I have no intention of sharing online details of my future "friends".

Irrespective of whether the OP is a fake or not - actual experiences shared by other members are helpful; "witchhunt" may be an exciting sport for some but not for others.

There were several topics on the boards initiated recently by a member labelled as a "troll": some responses to them were informative and useful.

I have joined recently but have been lurking on the boards for a long time. It seems to me that one of the reasons all of them lack "new posting blood" could a fear of intimidation.

[Gaybutton]

one of the reasons all of them lack "new posting blood" could a fear of intimidation.

 

If they're registering on the gay Thailand boards to post some sort of personal agenda and just making things up to try to back up their point, then that's a valid fear.  People with enough experience usually catch them at their game almost instantly. 

 

Those registering on the boards and intend to post honestly and appropriately have nothing to fear.

[Travellerdave]

Of course we need to take to task members who make up stories but on the other hand we always need new blood on the forum, so there is a fine line to be drawn and i think this happens most of the time.

I very much enjoy reading the various posts which keep me in touch with the gay scene in Thailand. I have now made more than 200 , but i think i am still a relatively newbie, but i have yet to experience any unpleasant reaction.

[williewillie]

I get so sick of people accussing new posters of being scammers (admitedly many are). But, I hate even worse the old timers who try to rule by directive.  "Give me the name or you are lying."   Well, a board poster should be able to choose what he or she posts and regardless of the accuracy, intelligent people can make up their minds. 

 

People complain about the lack of posting and then when a good thread comes along, they attack.

 

Fucking insane to think one can have it both ways unless there is another agenda at play.

 

This is not an old boys club.  Everyone should be welcome and regardless of their first post or 1,000th post, believe what you will or not.  But, at least give them 20 or more threads to see if they are trolls or not.

Haven't had a jab from Michael in a long time. I do seem to get up his nose sometimes.

I stand by my contention that if the poster gave up the boys gayromeo handle, he wouldn't have hit all the criticism.

Of course, no poster has to do anything or tell the forum anything, but not telling reeks of bullshit.

[Guest M4045]

Of course we need to take to task members who make up stories but on the other hand we always need new blood on the forum, so there is a fine line to be drawn and i think this happens most of the time.

I very much enjoy reading the various posts which keep me in touch with the gay scene in Thailand. I have now made more than 200 , but i think i am still a relatively newbie, but i have yet to experience any unpleasant reaction.

 

I also made very few post so far here, and joined at first only for 2 reasons: to be able to see the pictures in the "Some Model Photoshots"-Tread and to see firecats pictures of his gayromeo-boys. Oh and thanks alot firecat, for your gayromeo-reports, its seems you like the same kind of boys as me, so some of your reviews were very helpful to find really great boys in Pattaya. Especially with some of the boys, who don´t have full profiles, only some photos. Normally I would not contact or meet them, but after your reviews here I tried with some of them and did not regret it

 

But when I finally posted something the answers were all friendly and helpful, so I don´t think there is a general problem with new posters here. 

[vinapu]

I have now made more than 200 , but i think i am still a relatively newbie, but i have yet to experience any unpleasant reaction.

the same here. More than 1700 posts and so far treated gently by the members.

 

 

I stand by my contention that if the poster gave up the boys gayromeo handle, he wouldn't have hit all the criticism.

Of course, no poster has to do anything or tell the forum anything, but not telling reeks of bullshit.

Not taking sides in the dispute I can imagine that somebody may have a policy of not identifying his offs other than in general terms at least as long as  one is still in Thailand for fear of some form of retribution or out of desire for privacy.

 

I'd personally would report bad apple with full details since this is what forums are for. Then  it's up to everybody  to believe such an accusations or dismiss them.

 

Still we should be thankful to OP for instigating quite an interesting discussion.

 

I agree we should treat newcomers gently and sometimes trolling questions  are generating informative responses as noted above.

 

On another hand anybody posting should be prepared  that his story or opinion may not be taken gently so no reason to be fast offended, place for primadonnas is in opera not on the  forum with sex interest .

[vinapu]

. Oh and thanks alot firecat, for your gayromeo-reports, its seems you like the same kind of boys as me

it seems everybody likes the same kind of boys like firecat, I feel like ugly orphan here but at least firecat remembers from time to time what I like and posts picture of some hunkier  boy 

[TotallyOz]

Haven't had a jab from Michael in a long time. I do seem to get up his nose sometimes.

I stand by my contention that if the poster gave up the boys gayromeo handle, he wouldn't have hit all the criticism.

Of course, no poster has to do anything or tell the forum anything, but not telling reeks of bullshit.

 

Jab was not intended for you. (well, maybe a bit as I know you love it.)

 

But, I have read the OP several times and I see no agenda there. He came to the same conclusion I did with Gay Romeo a long time ago.  It was not for me.  I use it from time to time and am often disappointed when they don't show up looking exactly like their photos.

 

But, I am more of a person that likes to see what I am getting in the bar or massage kind of guy.  Firecat is a friend and he has had tremendous success with Gay Romeo.  I think it is wonderful for some people and for him, doing 10-20 boys a day (no jab intended) he gets what he wants and needes.  Me, being old and worn out, I want to have one cute guy every once in a while and I really want them to have the tough personality I like and I don't often get that from Gay Romeo.

 

I don't have an agenda when say that.  I have reread the OP many things and don't see why anyone would jump to the conclusion that the OP is a bar owner or has an agenda.  Maybe he does.  I don't know but I enjoyed the story and it caused me to file his experience in my file of experiences from others.

 

Mine are often different.  I love Hero but many have said they do and find nothing for them.  Firecat is one of them.  He has been and found nothing he likes. I don't think he has an agenda to try to promote Gay Romeo. 

 

Everyone has different tastes.

 

Also, having knowledge of the gay scene in NYC that was gay for pay for many years, I can tell you the OP story is one that has happened hundreds of time with independants there esp. from Craig's List.  Years back, The Gaiety and Stella's and some amazing escort services were in place that allowed you to screne the guys. Those are all things of the past in NYC and now you must rely on online sites.   And, I have heard several experiences like the OP just not often in Thailand. But, I have heard of this in Thailand and I have even heard of it from guys picked up on GR, the beach and the bars.  I have zero agenda in saying that. 

 

I think we all must be careful in who we pick and how we pick them. Gay Romeo is very successful for many of you.  Not for me. But, I like seeing the boy first and seeing this bad boy attitude.  That does not come across on a website.  

 

I know of one group of old men in Pattaya who would get upset at one person or one bar and go to allt the websites and post shit about them to destory their reputation.  I know they had an agenda but it was only obvious to those that knew them and knew what they wanted.  I say this only to say that anything you read on any board must be read like a grain of salt.  Read it. Digest it. Stll try the bar or the site or the service and see what your experience may be.  Everyone will have a difference experience or it may be all the same. When I read something like the OP, I just store it for the future.  I don't go on the attack to try to discredit the person but I don't have to believe everything they say either.

 

I believe the OP's story may be true.  I believe Willy doesn't believe it. I believe Firecat has amazing experiences on Gay Romeo.  I believe GayButton tries his best to promote the good side of Pattaya and keep people coming there as he is like the Ambassador to gayness in Pattaya.   I know that not everyone will have the same experience at the OP but in the fiture, someone will. And, I know that my post is not intended to take a jab at anyone but that some will see it as a personal afront.

 

That is life on a message board.  Now, those of you in LOS, (lucky bastards) go out and get laid. 

[Gaybutton]

I believe the OP's story may be true

 

Whether it is true or not, that's not the point.  Whether things like that happen frequently in New York is irrelevant to what frequently happens in Thailand.  My major issue is stories such as the OP's are extremely rare in Pattaya, which made it far less believable to me in the first place.  The clincher, and the point, is his refusal to identify the boy by giving us his Gay Romeo profile name along with coming up with such a lame excuse for the refusal.  That was so predictable.  For me, that's when any semblance of credibility flew right out the window.

 

Certainly there's a chance he was being truthful.  There's also a chance that you'll be the winner of the next Powerball.  I think the chances are about equal. 

 

Even if his story is true, that does not excuse someone "doing us a favor by warning us" registering on a board, making such an accusation, and then refusing to give even a hint about "whodunit."  Without being forthcoming, he shouldn't have posted at all.

 

You think he had no agenda?  I think that's exactly what he had.  What are we, all naive idiots who need someone to come out of the woodwork to warn us that we ought to be careful about boys we meet on Gay Romeo?  Thanks very much.

[Up2u]

+1 on the above post.

[TotallyOz]

Whether it is true or not, that's not the point.  Whether things like that happen frequently in New York is irrelevant to what frequently happens in Thailand. 

 

I know for a fact things like this have happened in Thailand.  So, everything you said is not on point. Right? 

 

No, you have that right and it is encouraged.  But, bullying anyone into sharing more info than they wish to share is insane. IMHO

 

I have told you this happened to a friend of mine on a trip with me.  I know of others this has happened to.  Blinders don't change that.  It is rare mind you.  But, shit like this does happen in Thailand and in Pattaya regardless of your belief in them or not.

[firecat69]

I don't disagree that it happens (rarely). The OP made it sound like that was a good reason to pay off fees to Bars rather then use GR. Ridiculous on its face!! Can happen with Bar Boy just as easily and again extremely rarely.

 

He choose to give us a wealth of information on his friend and how he put profile up and was deluged with replies. All ridiculous unless he was 22 or younger ,white and HOT.

 

But when challenged to do the only thing he could do to protect people and that is give the profile name he came up with a lame excuse.

 

I had a boy steal from me last year (very rare). I posted it in his Guestbook and every time he removed it I put it in again and posted on all the Forums.

 

Thats what you do!!!

[Up2u]

I know for a fact things like this have happened in Thailand.  So, everything you said is not on point. Right? 

 

No, you have that right and it is encouraged.  But, bullying anyone into sharing more info than they wish to share is insane. IMHO

 

I have told you this happened to a friend of mine on a trip with me.  I know of others this has happened to.  Blinders don't change that.  It is rare mind you.  But, shit like this does happen in Thailand and in Pattaya regardless of your belief in them or not.

Michael I completely disagree with you and are missing the point that the OP's was story was a fabrication which you are apparently blind to acknowledge.

[Gaybutton]

I know for a fact things like this have happened in Thailand.

 

I agree with firecat69 in that you're still missing the point.  I'm not saying things like this never happen in Thailand.  That would be absurd.  What I'm saying is if it really did happen and you want to post the story, then post the whole story, which would include the Gay Romeo profile name.  If you're not going to provide that information, then don't post it in the first place.  What's the point, unless the poster is under the impression that we are all naive morons and are in need of a warning? 

 

Without telling us the profile name, it could be any boy on Gay Romeo.  I think a one-sided post, without any means whatsoever to get the boy's side of the story and intended to frighten people about meeting boys through Gay Romeo absolutely stinks. 

 

In the Gay Romeo forums on both this board and Sawatdee, the worst I've seen about any boy has been no-shows, the boy that did show wasn't the same boy in the photos or was much older than his photos, or was a dud.  I have yet to see any in which someone claimed a boy tried to shake him down for more money.  To me, that says this farang is the only one on any of the boards who ever met this boy or he's the only one the boy ever tried to shake down. I don't believe that.

 

Then there is the OP's excuse for withholding the profile name - that he's afraid the boy will find out about the post, will know who posted it, and then will try to physically harm him.  For that to be the case, then this farang would have to be the only one the boy ever tried to shake down.  Otherwise, how could he know who posted it?  To me, that goes beyond lame and ridiculous.  I believe only reason to refuse to tell us the profile name is because there is no profile name to tell about - because it didn't happen. 

 

Even on Gay Romeo itself, when I look at the guestbooks there are often people who post right in those guestbooks that the boy is "no good," he's a thief, don't meet him, etc.  They don't seem to be afraid of physical retaliation and the boy would certainly know with certainty who posted those accusations.

 

Firecat69 is right about the holes in the story he's already pointed out.  I don't always agree with firecat69 and he doesn't always agree with me, but in this case I agree with every word he has written.  The story has no credibility.  Maybe some buy the story.  I do not.

 

If nothing else, I hope this topic accomplishes one thing - that from now on if someone wants to post about a "bad boy," then if he doesn't want these kinds of responses, either back up the story or keep it to yourself.