How you sent your off off ?

[vinapu]

Lots of hotels keep boy's ID while he is entertaining you and when he is leaving they will call you from reception to make sure all is Ok before releasing  said ID.

 

This is universally praised since makes you feeling more secure.

 

While I like idea,   I never sent boy downstairs alone and always escort him to retrieve his document and to the  hotel's door at least. This way he can avoid unwelcomed stares and comments form the hotel guests and stuff. Back in 2002 boy I offed  had request for a tip when retrieving his ID from reception at Niagara Hotel so I learned my lesson when he complained to me next day and never do this to boys again, even  that unique one I threw  from the room last Nov.

 

What you do when you send your boy off?

 

[Guest]

I open the bedroom door, he walks out & I close the door. 

[farangyai]

I do the same as Z909 but also give him a nice kiss if all went well.

[kokopelli]

I do same z909 and farangyai but also put "tip" in  his hand.

[TotallyOz]

I do the same. I always give a bit extra for taxi. But, I will say.

 

"This is for short time" (agreed upon given)

"This is for you to buy present" (tip if given)

"This is for taxi" (40 baht in Pattaya and 60-100 baht in BKK)

Kiss on check. "thank you so much. Have a nice nights."

[vinapu]

I never give money for taxi even if they ask unless it was agreed in advance.

But if happy always  invite  them for  breakfast , my offs are usually  long time, can't sleep alone in Thailand for fear of ghosts. If not that happy still escort them to the reception  

[Travellerdave]

It took me a couple of minutes to review what I actually do when the boy leaves me. I don't seem to have any set pattern.

I always give the tip in the room and never at the hotel exit. I seldom give taxi money unless somehow he doesn't seem to have small change for this. I am a generous tipper which covers his expenses.

Mostly I accompany him to the reception desk and wait for him to retrieve the card. Often I am leaving the hotel at the same time.

Occasionally I have even bought him breakfast and one time having eaten we returned back to the room and got back into bed together.

It's never happened when on receiving the phone call I reply in the negative having some sort of problem, like the boy removing some item. My money, IPad, phone etc are always in the room safe or hidden away.

[Guest]

OK, so I should expand upon the original explanation for accuracy.....

 

1 Tips are always paid in the room.

 

2 Usually I open the door and he leaves after a suitable greeting.

 

3 Sometimes I offer to buy him breakfast, particularly if we are getting on well. This means we need to go somewhere which offers Thai food to satisfy the guest and vegetarian food for me, therefore "Food Corner" just behind Tuk Com.

 

4  In the rare cases where I have taken photos in the room and the ID card is down in reception, I have accompanied the guest downstairs in order to take a photo of the ID card to accompany photos.

[vinapu]

Since Travellerdave mentioned it I must add that never ever I had anything missing  from the room after boys' visit , neither noticed any unwanted activity around my possessions. Not that I create   opportunities but always have some money in the pockets and it's always safe. I know not everybody was so lucky but I so far was.

 

Thing I don't like and this creates guarantee that boy will not be offed again is when they help themselves to a contents of minibar without being invited or at least asking  it they can. I'm not cheap but believe no thing which is closed in the room should be opened by anybody else than host, window, A/c, Tv and refrigerator included. 

 

Yes,  tip always in the room and I make sure they know how much  they are getting. 

 

Talking about feeding them, on the way to the hotel I always ask them if they are hungry and if they are   buy them a meal . Never suggest place with other food than they are familiar with. If I don't like their choice just tell them I'm not hungry which is true since I hate heat and loose an appetite in it. 

 

It looks from responses that everybody developed some kind of etiquette to deal with our offs.

[Travellerdave]

Yes Vinapu I also dislike them raiding the mini bar without permission. Sometimes I have drinks in there which I have bought from 7-11 but the boys go for the more expensive bottles charged by the hotel. This annoys me.

During my last trip I was woken during the night by the boy who was going through the mini bar and making a noise clinking the bottles. I told him to stop and get back into bed. He did so but rolled into ball sulking.

I suppose the few extra baht on my hotel bill is trivial but I value politeness and good manners.

[Guest abang1961]

Yes taking drinks from the minibar is simply RUDE.

I think it is not the value of the drink but the very act of taking without asking.

 

Of course, I never had the experience because I am more likely to be the "visitor" rather than the "host".

Most of the time, the partner and I would probably had our meals and drinks before returning to the room.

One other interesting thing, I had never been stopped at the reception (probably, I don't look too Thai..)

and the hosts had never demanded it either.

[vinapu]

reading last comments I just realized that riding a minibar without permission goes almost hand in hand with  underperformance , the same goes with turning TV right after entry.

 

5 out of 6 boys I was not entirely happy on my last trip did either although the worst one actually did not , compensating for that by staying on the phone most time until I threw him out, still escorting him to the lobby as everybody else

[ChristianPFC]

It has been a long time that I stayed in a place where a boy had to leave ID at reception, but I remember one phone call from receptionist to ask if everything is ok.

 

Tipping now always in room. Last year I had a boy overnight in Lak Si and we went back to central Bangkok by bus, both of us were standing and had to exit at different stops. Then I realized I hadn't tipped him yet, so I had to do it in the bus. Soon afterwards he send an SMS that he was not happy about that.

 

 

Back in 2002 boy I offed  had request for a tip when retrieving his ID from reception at Niagara Hotel so I learned my lesson when he complained to me next day and never do this to boys again, even  that unique one I threw  from the room last Nov.

 

You tipped the boy in the room and he asked for another tip at the reception?

[Guest]

Yes taking drinks from the minibar is simply RUDE.

Thankfully most of the places I stay in only have 2 complementary bottles of water in the fridge, so that problem is avoided.

 

However, on a stay in The Rose, I had the cost of a bottle of whisky added to the tab when checking out, maybe 700 baht or so.

I was just about to challenge this, before realising my freelance friend from the night before was probably responsible for its disappearance.

If confronted with a full mini bar & also planning some long stay visitors, I would probably ask the hotel to empty the mini bar.

[vinapu]

Sorry ChristianPFC I was not clear , I tipped boy in the room and kissed him good bye. Met him next day again at his place / now defunct Aqua Spa / and he told me that when he retrieved his ID from reception, receptionist wanted tip from him. This is reason I always escort boys to the hotel's door.

 

Last year I noticed at both Arena and Jupiter that my offed boys were giving  20 baht tip to the mamasans, likely this must be established practice 

[vinapu]

 

If confronted with a full mini bar & also planning some long stay visitors, I would probably ask the hotel to empty the mini bar.

I usually stoke fridge  with my own beer and whisky and I'm not shy to tell guests what they are welcome to drink and what they are not. 

 I rather  spend 380 for whisky at 7/11 than pay hotel 700, and boy or hotel's maid  will be happy to pocket difference. Less I spent on incidentals more generous with tips am I. 

[colmx]

It has been a long time that I stayed in a place where a boy had to leave ID at reception, but I remember one phone call from receptionist to ask if everything is ok.

 

 

Same with me, I like to treat my visitors like Dates, and having them check in and leave their ID card is not something that i like

(especially as not all my visitors are offs or MBs)

Now i do not stay in hotels that retain ID cards, ID checks or sign in to guestbook is fine, but  find the retention of ID cards to be quite unpleasant, especially as i know several boys who did not get their ID card back from hotel reception/security staff after refusing to pay "corruption" money over to them

[Travellerdave]

This thread is firing up my memory of incidents which have annoyed me over the years concerning overnight guests.

The more expensive hotels always provide nice little bottles of shampoo and conditioner. Also small high quality small soaps and even tooth brushes and paste. I once had a boy take them all without permission and I didn't notice till he had gone.

This like the raids on the mini bar show a lack of respect, which i suspect many Thais have of Guests in their country.

On the hand i don't want to exaggerate . These incidents only occurred on a very small minority of occasions.

[vinapu]

This thread is firing up my memory of incidents which have annoyed me over the years concerning overnight guests.

The more expensive hotels always provide nice little bottles of shampoo and conditioner. Also small high quality small soaps and even tooth brushes and paste. I once had a boy take them all without permission and I didn't notice till he had gone.

This like the raids on the mini bar show a lack of respect, which i suspect many Thais have of Guests in their country.

On the hand i don't want to exaggerate . These incidents only occurred on a very small minority of occasions.

I don't think this is lack of respect. Those are mostly poor boys and even those small trinkets are of great value for them. Since  they know you get them for free and consider you very rich if you stay in such a hotel probably don't even think twice about taking them although I may theorize here as  raiding toiletries by my boy never happened to me .

 

On occasion I myself take shampoo or soap with me if not sure my next hotel will provide them.

 

Speaking tooth brushes since I like kissing I always have stock of brand news from 7/11 and invite my boys to use them and after the meeting if they want I ask them to take one they used. And carry small bottle of Listerine  with me all the time as it's extremely difficult to walk along Silom without going astray to one of massage places along.  

[Guest]

Now i do not stay in hotels that retain ID cards, ID checks or sign in to guestbook is fine, but  find the retention of ID cards to be quite unpleasant, especially as i know several boys who did not get their ID card back from hotel reception/security staff after refusing to pay "corruption" money over to them

I would like to know the names of the hotels where reception staff have asked for a "tip" to return ID cards.  I wouldn't approve of that practice, so might just have to accompany a guest downstairs if ever staying in such places.

[vinapu]

I would like to know the names of the hotels where reception staff have asked for a "tip" to return ID cards.  I wouldn't approve of that practice, so might just have to accompany a guest downstairs if ever staying in such places.

My boy case was in Niagara Hotel, soi 9 back  at end of 2002, ever since I learned about it I'm escorting boys to the hotel door if not further. As I usually take long time offs further means breakfast together somewhere. 

[colmx]

I would like to know the names of the hotels where reception staff have asked for a "tip" to return ID cards.  I wouldn't approve of that practice, so might just have to accompany a guest downstairs if ever staying in such places.

Can't name the hotels as both were quite recent incidents and woulnt want to fall foul of any Libel laws!

First was a hotel in the Soi VC area the second was a hotel on 3rd road