TotallyOz Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 The Yellow's will never be happy with a true democracy. They only want a democracy if rich people are the only ones to vote. The Reds will never be happy with all the BS the yellow shirts pull. Lets face it, the removal of the PM last week was silly. I wonder if the only way to bring peace is to let the military seize control? What other choice is there? Is there anything else that will stop the madness? Quote
Up2u Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 That's no solution, the last military government was a disaster and they have no expertise or desire to run a country thank god. The burmese have just been liberated from the military generals. I would favor UN intervention to get these two sides talking but I doubt the yellow shirts would agree. Quote
Guest frequentflier Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 the last coup was a total disaster.People will avoid Thailand if it happens. Quote
vinapu Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 military intervention would only make sense if would lead to speedy elections / 2 months from the coup max / and guarantee from military that whoever wins will have full backing from army. But this is day dreaming, not only in Thailand. Military tends to screw things up as you can't run country the same way you run armed forces Word from you know who to support elected government and asking for crowds to disperse would help but this is another day dreaming in circumstances. It leaves monetary solution - if economy will start hurting than three's rare chance for big business and Issan farmers to be in the same boat and demand speedy end to all this BS, another day dreaming but most probable and less hurtful in terms of blood shed. After all some deep pockets are financing 6 months of unrest in BKK UN has better things to do that getting involved in internal problems of still fairly stable country IMHO. Michael as an American you may not realize that there are people in the world for whom Sept 11 has completely different meaning that for Americans and rest of world. Those are Chileans , Sept 11-1973 was date of Pinochet's coup. KhorTose 1 Quote
Guest luvthai Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Nothing short of a coup will end this turmoil. Redshirts threatening civil war need know they will face military force. Quote
fedssocr Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 I think Thailand is beyond the point where a military take over would be accepted by most people. [but make no mistake, the military is still pretty firmly in control in Myanmar, however] Neither side has a monopoly on corruption. And both sides are so entrenched in their beliefs that they are right and the other side is wrong that it's impossible to see any solution to the current situation. I don't think there are enough neutral parties at this point to implement any sort of workable solution. My guess is that things will continue to bounce along as they have been for a while. TotallyOz 1 Quote
farangyai Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Neither side has a monopoly on corruption. And both sides are so entrenched in their beliefs that they are right and the other side is wrong that it's impossible to see any solution to the current situation. I don't think there are enough neutral parties at this point to implement any sort of workable solution. My guess is that things will continue to bounce along as they have been for a while. Gee, the problem in Thailand doesn't sound so different than the USA. I feel sorry for the Thai people. kokopelli and vinapu 2 Quote
vinapu Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Nothing short of a coup will end this turmoil. Redshirts threatening civil war need know they will face military force. May be nobody knows how army will react and this is a reason they stay on the sidelines so far. Coup is the last thing Thailand needs right now, yes it's gridlock but country is not paralyzed and even has time to issue new 500 baht banknote tomorrow. Even sex tourists seem only mildly to be inconvenienced. Quote
TotallyOz Posted May 12, 2014 Author Posted May 12, 2014 I think Thailand is beyond the point where a military take over would be accepted by most people. I would have agreed with you but I thought we were beyond the point one PM is removed because of a cooking show and the other because of moving around people in HER government. Both were silly and accepted by most people. I don't think a coup would be any more or less accepted. Quote
vinapu Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Perhaps army realizes that in todays world coups are out of fashion and no military government would gain respect of international community unless country wrere be in really big trouble which Thailand thanks God is not / yet ? / Quote
Up2u Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Nothing short of a coup will end this turmoil. Redshirts threatening civil war need know they will face military force. That doesn't make sense, a coup is military force. Things have changed since the last coup. YL and the red shirts have military sympathetic to their cause. Remember the vast majority of the grunts, the soldiers, were drafted and come from red shirt land. Many are the boys from bars, our friends, our sweethearts. Do you really think they will fire on their own family, relatives and friends(rhetorical question). It will be funny when the top heavy bureaucratic army generals turn around and say "where did everybody go?". I have heard it said this one reason there hasn't been a coup, it would not be like the last coup, it would be civil war. Let's hope common sense prevails. KhorTose and vinapu 2 Quote
vinapu Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Nothing short of a coup will end this turmoil. Redshirts threatening civil war need know they will face military force. as they say ' when a mosquito sits on your balls it's only then you realize using force is not always a best option' KhorTose 1 Quote