Some Guys Are Paying The Boys Too Much

[vinapu]

 I decided to start in Classic Boys as usual on my Thai trips..... 

I negotated directly with the boy and at no point was there any pressure at all from the mamasan..... 

 

 Sometimes they get the extra 400 baht, the rest of the time they get 1600 and the issue of repeat custom just doesn't come into it.

However, I suspect anyone tipping BKK gogo boys 1500 would find the same boy willing to be offed again the next night.

It looks it's on and off with mamasans in Classic, in May I was impressed  for they were friendly and not pushy at all.

 

 In November both of them were so pushy for tips that I resorted to my rarely used trick and tipped one of them 1 baht, to his credit he got a message ans smiled. I had a drink for myself and boy sitting with me so not that I was abusing system .

 

 

Never lose hope, I had cases when boy demanded taxi money which I never give and even when declined he still expressed  desire to see me again. It's what we said above, trying for more  rarely hurts them

[Guest anonone]

Been awhile since I bought a bottle. Maybe I'll do it on towel night tomorrow at Vassa???

Now...that makes me more then a little jealous !!!

 

Let us know how it goes....

[vinapu]

 

 

It is the one downside of online pick ups, that you don't have the goods in front of you .  hehe

At times when you  have them it's still misleading.

Look doesn't translate to performance or everything works fine until at end boy demands out of sky compensation and we have a scene.

 

Or dressed boy becomes different personality  than one in speedos on stage  if you recall my misadventure with one of Dreamboys boys.

 

But that's the thrill of discovery . 

[vinapu]

As alluded to by a couple of posters, Thai are not necessarily focused solely on making the most money possible. The "fun" factor, their appearance to others, their current comfort level, and other factors play heavily into how they approach things. Sometimes difficult for those of "western" backgrounds to relate to what motivates others.

We are  the same, frequently you see posts when posters know  they paid over the odds  but are happy with performance and do not have any regrets about money spent, more, rightly they fight nails and teeth if somebody dares to question their spending patterns- see this very thread.

 

I think both sides are looking for fun, those few  who are concerned about deal side only than are sitting sad over glass of water in Pattaya  bars or bitching about greedy boys and spendthrift  farangs on various forums. 

[Guest trailrider]

You are way too polite to the OP. There is nothing bust disdain in his post

My only disdain is for you.

[ChristianPFC]

Whilst waiting, I advised an Asian female visitor who was asking about short time rooms in the area.

 

What did you advise her? Places, prices? I live to far away (20 km) to take a boy home, and now probably won't off a boy for a while, but thought about short time rooms. Seems it starts from 500 Baht, too much (whereas around Saranrom 200 Baht is fine for me).

 

Some posters mention to meet the boy after work, or even go to late night discos. That's not an option for many, including me. I like to be in bed, sleeping, at midnight and not wait for a boy to finish work at 1 am.

[Guest trailrider]

That's not an option for many, including me. I like to be in bed, sleeping, at midnight and not wait for a boy to finish work at 1 am.

A large percentage of the guys posting here are not working in Thailand.  They are just partying and can stay up much later than you.  So, to wait for a boy is just part of the fun.

[t0oL1]

As little effort these guys put in- 

they are still worth double what we pay

[vinapu]

My father used to say 'prostitution is work like any other but at least is not dusty'.

 

As for effort you are not entirely right , I recall quite a few who tried pretty hard  plus we  need to consider that not all clients are as nice as we , posters here, are and boys need to put up with some nasties too 

[t0oL1]

I might agree only because yesterday I was looking at the GR section, and couldn't find a single one I would have called.

Maybe some look better in person than their pics. One had a couple stunning pics, then a couple later pics. Maybe I can't see what others see through the net and pictures and am most impressed on how he carries himself and interacts.  

 

I search and search to find the "one" I can overpay gladly even in person from bars, and can easily wait until I find him.

[vinapu]

...I was looking at the GR section, and couldn't find a single one I would have called.

 

Maybe some look better in person than their pics. One had a couple stunning pics, then a couple later pics. Maybe I can't see what others see through the net and pictures and am most impressed on how he carries himself and interacts.  

 

 

I already mentioned it somewhere on this forum but I suspect that Thai beauty  shows better  in the flesh than on the photos.

 

I'm not on GR and likes but happen to know few boys from  massages websites and all of them look better in person.

Wonder it others have  the same impression ?

 

I'm one of those who think that nothing helps to decide if boy is the right one better than being in bar ,had him sitting with me and  placing hand on his knee or thigh. Yes it cost price of drink but who said that sin must be cheap?

[Guest]

I get a much higher percentage of very successful encounters from the bars. That's just down to making eye contact, looking for a favourable response & seeing how it goes when he's next to me.

So the money paid to the bar is worth it (on average). And the bars are more fun.

[vinapu]

... That's just down to making eye contact, looking for a favourable response & seeing how it goes when he's next to me.

So the money paid to the bar is worth it (on average). And the bars are more fun.

As long as I'm concerned 100% agree.

 

Making direct contact helps to fish out those who may appeal to us but we don't appeal to them  - lack of smile or eye contact is good indicator encounter will not work if only one side is interested and another is doing it just for money.

 

Exception will be real professionals , usually I see them in massage places and they are straights.  They do not show much interest while in line but when chosen they know how to search for right button to make client happy.

 

But bottom line is the same - you have a chance to see boy face to face / and a bit more / before making decision.

[firecat69]

Just goes to prove that there are 57 varieties of Campbell Soup and everyone has different experiences.

 

If I was to pick the 5 Hottest boys I have met in the last 3 years , they would all be from Gayromeo.  I have not had a single repeat encounter with a Bar Boy in about 4 years. And I have had multiple , many repeats from GayRomeo. 

 

Up until about 4 years ago I was strictly a Bar goer and for the 3 years I lived in Bangkok , I had multiple repeat boys from the Bars.

 

Not sure exactly how it changed but practice makes perfect and I have had incredible Good Luck with Gayromeo.

 

Part of it is because I can have a conversation on Gayromeo even if it is google translated for the boy where as in the Bar , I can barely hear myself think with what has become deafening music. Also most of the bar Boys know 2 or 3 phrases and that is it.

 

Not trying to change anyones mind, just saying what has worked for me .  It took some practice and time to figure out the pitfalls of gayromeo but now at worst I get an acceptable encounter as a minimum and a Hot Boy 50% of the time.

 

At most 1 out of 10 is a Dud.  I rarely ever did that well in the Bars.

 

 

Hope springs eternal however and I am about to leave for SoiTwilight and hopefully I will see what others have seen at Classic and possibly HotMale.

[vinapu]

As you said , 57 soup varieties and there's something for everybody.

 

I used to give bar wide miss and in few trips in row did not visit them even once. Recently somehow I noticed I like visit them not as much for shows , more for an atmosphere , just sitting with boy  I brought with me or one picked up from the line  and watching bar goings makes for good fun. May be age shows?  

 

As a source of boys  massage places  are where my companions are coming from  by far and success rate is much higher than for bar  boys .

 

In November I noticed few very handsome freelancers offering their services on Patpong side of Suriwong, did not explore this "soup"   but likely will try next time.

[williewillie]

Sometimes I wonder why the other 99% of us remain in their home countries and never have sex. I am referring to the over

50 year old gay men who cannot find sex partners unless they like other older men who are also balding and overweight.

Sure, some of the 99% are on tight budgets but many are sitting on fat pensions, healthy retirement accounts and have

accumulated assets, paid off mortgages and are debt free.

Decades of looking at porn and never touching young men and never having sex is self imposed. Believing one is a dirty old man for wanting sex

after 50 is another lie taught to us when we are young.

I can only imagine life long habits, fears, and mostly disbelief that anyone desirable under 30, would have sex with them keeps

them lonely and miserable in their home countries.

It is easy to have a full and exciting sex life and your nieces and nephews will blow your money after you die anyway.

[bkkmfj2648]

you are so right.

I am 52 and I already have started the great adventure to Thailand.

It is simply amazing the number of young guys that want to hang out with you here in LOS with and without money boys.

Where I live in Italy, most Italians don't want anything to do with older men. I had originally thought to retire in Italy but after seeing with my own eyes how Italians treat old men - there is no way I will retire there. Italy, like my native USA, is obsessed with youth, muscles, fashion, and showing off your financial assets.

Here in LOS there is less of that.

cheers,

m.

[vinapu]

Sometimes I wonder why the other 99% of us remain in their home countries and never have sex.

I can only imagine life long habits, fears, and mostly disbelief that anyone desirable under 30, would have sex with them keeps

them lonely and miserable in their home countries.

It is easy to have a full and exciting sex life and your nieces and nephews will blow your money after you die anyway.

I think is fear of travel to places with different culture and language. Most people are comfortable only in places they know and if they venture abroad  it's for organized trips - not an option for somebody planning on whoring.

 

And to go to developing country - they may have impression they will be sleeping on floor , eating fried insects and taking shower only once a week for lack of running water.

 

So porn and hand seems more secure and comfortable for them 

[Guest trailrider]

you are so right.

I am 52 and I already have started the great adventure to Thailand.

It is simply amazing the number of young guys that want to hang out with you here in LOS with and without money boys.

Where I live in Italy, most Italians don't want anything to do with older men. I had originally thought to retire in Italy but after seeing with my own eyes how Italians treat old men - there is no way I will retire there. Italy, like my native USA, is obsessed with youth, muscles, fashion, and showing off your financial assets.

Here in LOS there is less of that.

cheers,

m.

You are so right about this.  In the US many of the escorts don't want to go out with older men.

 

   I think I gave the wrong impression with my OP.  The boys can be a lot of fun and not, always, at a great cost.  When I go to Hero Massage it is seldom I get away from there for less than 3000 baht.  but I really like the boy I see there and it is worth it because he puts out a great effort to please me.

[vinapu]

 

   I think I gave the wrong impression with my OP.  The boys can be a lot of fun and not, always, at a great cost.  When I go to Hero Massage it is seldom I get away from there for less than 3000 baht.  but I really like the boy I see there and it is worth it because he puts out a great effort to please me.

I agree with your assessment of HERO, those boys are truly professional entertainers in their field and leave no stone unturned in order to find what pleases their client.

 

And it not need to be that expensive , 1 hr massage is 700 with minimum tip 1000 but like everywhere I'd rather go with longer course and  of course pay more.

 

Only warning with longer courses / 1.5 or 2 hrs. / in any massage place - watch your paid time as sometimes they finish earlier than you  paid for  , in such a case I point it to them that we still have some time left  and use time for  quiet feeling of each other body. Getting my money worth.

 

Nothing wrong with feeling that people paying too much or too little, we can express our opinions as lond as we are prepared that we can be challenged and accept it with grace.

 

I , for one, thing many people are paying too much for restaurants meals and fancy hotels but it's their problem and money.

 

Merry Christmas to all reading this post !