What's the going rate for long time tips in Pattaya?

[Guest]

Pick the closest figure.

The "mind your own business" option is to not participate.

[kokopelli]

Did not vote since don't do long time.

[Guest anonone]

I didn't vote either, as long time is not something we do now.

[firecat69]

What do you mean by long time. overnights or multi days?

[williewillie]

Overnite often means until the sun rises. Sometimes, the boy doesn't sleep all night with farang

snoring and tossing and turning. Sometimes, it means until breakfast is over and sometimes

you have to let the boy know its time to go.

The farang is usually looking for a second go round the next morning but sometimes the Thai guy is

already dressed and ready to go in the wee hours of the morning.

Lots of agreed long times end up short time as the boy has the only key to the room and has roommate

and a host of other factors.

[Guest]

I agree -long time is usually for one night. Two nights is twice the tip.

 

Some of us find certain boys agree to do long time, but only ever intend to make their excuses and leave after short time. That's slightly dishonest and wears a bit thin when you really want to do long time that evening.

 

After all, had he told the truth, you could have gone after someone else.

 

One way to prevent this is to explain up front you want long time tonight and will pay a really small tip for short time & a good one for long time.

When they ask, quote a really low short time figure & 1500 long time.

After that, anyone who agrees to do long time really means it.

 

None of this is necessary when you want to do short time of course.

 

Of course, the other somewhat rarer case is the person who sticks around for days on end, as long as he gets his long time tip each morning.

Eventually, it can be necessary to tactfully remind them you're a butterfly.

[colmx]

i pretty much pay the same +/- 100B for short time or long time...

For me short time is offing the boy and back to the room for a quickie

Long time is going to the disco, back to the room for sex either before or after sleep (or both)

 

What about that other scenario which doesn't work out for whatever reason and you send him without sex...

What do people pay in this case?

Might be worth another poll!

 

(example reasons for no sex: 1.Boy Mau quickly and wants to go home before its time to leave disco. 2. Boys GF/BF demands they come home from disco. 3.Boy has to take key home to friend 4. Boy is obnoxious/ignorant/unfriendly/aggressive and you want rid of him. 5. Boy is stolen by another farang, ladyboy or thai customer!)

[Guest anonone]

Hmmm... I am trying to think if this has ever happened.  Can't recall right off.

 

There have been a numerous times when I invite all the boys from Crazy Pub out to the disco.  I don't really consider it an "off" as there isn't really an intent for sex....though it has happened a couple of times.  LOL
 

I usually tip VERY well into the shared tip bin when settling up at Crazy Pub before heading out, so they all have some spending money.  We also end up back near Sunee for an Isan feast when it is all over around dawn.  Good times....

 

If there was an "off" intent, I would think some face-saving type of amount would be likely...500 baht?  Although this would depend greatly on the reason for the event falling through.  Certainly nothing if they went with another customer.

[colmx]

.  Certainly nothing if they went with another customer.

We had one guy that we offed - who ran off with a ladyboy one night.. and boy was she ugly!

We were glad to get rid of him!

[t0oL1]

Can't sleep - unaccustomed to a gorgeous body sleeping next to me all night,

and most of the afternoon as well.

 

Factor in jet lag as well, and I just lie there and adore the view

the entire sleepless time.

[ChristianPFC]

For me, long time is staying over night and another round in the morning, in some cases breakfast or lunch together. Then the boy usually has to leave to go back to his room (housework, change clothes, whatever). I currently have two gogo boys in Pattaya who I regularly take for long time.

 

The problem with one of them is our different sleep-wake pattern. He is horny when we go to bed (between 1 and 3 am), when just sleeping would be fine for me. I am horny next morning (10 am), when he wants to sleep. Furthermore, I would get up at 10 am, but he sleeps until 2 pm. So I might reduce to short time.

 

 

(example reasons for no sex: 1.Boy Mau quickly and wants to go home before its time to leave disco. 2. Boys GF/BF demands they come home from disco. 3.Boy has to take key home to friend 4. Boy is obnoxious/ignorant/unfriendly/aggressive and you want rid of him. 5. Boy is stolen by another farang, ladyboy or thai customer!)

 

I off boys specifically for sex, I had no-sex situations three times (all in Pattaya, Boyztown):

 

my very first off (call from mamasan, boy has to go home to visit mama in hospital the following day, tipped 500 Baht). The full story is in a post I made a few months after that. I was unexperienced, I would have tipped 1000 Baht if I had had that much Thai Baht on me (exchanged Euros the follwing day). If such a thing happend again to me, I would throw him out without any tip.

 

Gogo boy with whom it just didn't work out. I am very sensitive, and when I have to explain back and forth (come here, no there, do this, not that) I cannot have sex. So I kept the boy over night, but the following morning it didn't get better. Tipped 300 Baht for long time with some arguing and phone call to mamasan. Full story somewhere on the boards.

 

Waiter I offed. Back in my room, it turned out he is a drama queen. After long discussions (he was unwilling to put on the underwear I gave to him, and we had to negotiate about the light), I asked "Can we have sex now?" - "No!" - "How about tomorrow morning?" - "I don't know." That's enough! I told him to leave (without money). He asked for money for the time he spent with me. So I gave him 500 Baht to avoid further discussion and a bad reputation. With hindsight, I should have given less.

[Guest]

I asked "Can we have sex now?" - "No!" - "How about tomorrow morning?" - "I don't know." That's enough! I told him to leave (without money). He asked for money for the time he spent with me. So I gave him 500 Baht to avoid further discussion and a bad reputation. With hindsight, I should have given less.

Assuming it was clearly agreed that sex would be included, in the final example you were way too generous. 

[vinapu]

I have not a happy experience with both long time offs in PTY last week, it seemed all they wanted to do was just to sleep without any disturbance  from me. I think it must be clearly negotiated beforehand what is expected in terms of  in the bed behavior and when boy will be allowed to go to get long time rate. Lesson learned by me kind of hard and expensive way, still great and warm bodies though.   

[Guest]

I have not a happy experience with both long time offs in PTY last week, it seemed all they wanted to do was just to sleep without any disturbance  from me. I think it must be clearly negotiated beforehand what is expected in terms of  in the bed behavior and when boy will be allowed to go to get long time rate.

If you're offing a gogo dancer, surely sex is expected as standard ?   If he's not offering that, kick him out quickly with a minimal tip & go get another one.

 

Also, as long as he pleasured you for while first, I think he's entitled to a full nights sleep after that. No need to spend the entire night having sex.

 

With the pros from the gogo bars, the only thing I negotiate up front before a short time off is what he likes to do.

 

If I really want long time that night, I also explain he's going to get a very small tip if he doesn't stay long time. The guy then usually asks about my long time price, so I quote 1500 (he actually gets slightly more, if he's been good). 

That stops people who only ever want to do short time agreeing to do long time, then breaking their promise.

[gumbleby]

I have a boyfriend now, before that I used to just go with the flow (I rarely discussed money, the exact deeds, nor short time or long time except as a practical matter). Most of the time it turned out quite well (not necessarily what I had in mind upfront, but quite satisfying nonetheless). If we got along well, and I felt like it, I sometimes invited my guest for staying overnight, often after I gave his tip. Quite often they ended up staying.

[vinapu]

 

 

Also, as long as he pleasured you for while first, I think he's entitled to a full nights sleep after that. No need to spend the entire night having sex.

That's the problem, you think and they thought, but not me.

 

If boy  agrees for long time I do not see any entitlement to full night sleep unless I let him to. No,  we are not talking whole night of sex , that's  porn movies stuff but   he should be prepared for some hugging and caressing and such light disturbances to a sleep pattern.

 

If I want guy just for one  tryst why bother with long time, Thailand is not a Greenland  where one may need somebody just  to warm the bed. 

[Guest darkdays]

I don't understand this as it appears that z909 started this poll asking questions like a newbie would and then is serving advice with almost 3,000 posts under his belt. Please clue me in.

[vinapu]

 If we got along well, and I felt like it, I sometimes invited my guest for staying overnight, often after I gave his tip. Quite often they ended up staying.

Lucky you, in my earlier years I tried this but never worked so finally switched to long time offs  and works better, not without glitches though.

Only once I had short time boy staying long time after I let him to watch soccer game in my room after the deed. He did not want extra money and I did not extract extra services other than stolen kisses and wandering hand here and there from him either.

[kokopelli]

I have a boyfriend now, before that I used to just go with the flow (I rarely discussed money, the exact deeds, nor short time or long time except as a practical matter). Most of the time it turned out quite well (not necessarily what I had in mind upfront, but quite satisfying nonetheless). If we got along well, and I felt like it, I sometimes invited my guest for staying overnight, often after I gave his tip. Quite often they ended up staying.

gumbleby; I have had similar experiences as you post. Sometimes the boys do ask if they can stay over as they have no other place to go and my accommodations were far superior than their rooms.

[vinapu]

I don't understand this as it appears that z909 started this poll asking questions like a newbie would and then is serving advice with almost 3,000 posts under his belt. Please clue me in.

Subject of tips is very popular and we like to talk about this so just join in with you experiences and don't worry about number of posts and offs  

[Guest]

I don't understand this as it appears that z909 started this poll asking questions like a newbie would and then is serving advice with almost 3,000 posts under his belt. Please clue me in.

 

INFLATION.  

 

Like most other economies, Thailand has price inflation.  What was an appropriate tip 5 years ago might prove inadequate today.

Running a poll approximately once a year is one way to keep up to date with trends.

 

Someone else was asking the question in another thread, so I ran a poll to gather a good sample of replies. 

[vinapu]

Good thing you did,

 

I was always reading that Pattaya boys are happy with 1000 tip for short time and leaving with smile but when I offered 1500 for good encounter it was just accepted  matter of factly.

 

Granted this is just one statistic sample but it may signalize that tips  may be climbing a bit or boy was just knowing his price.

[Guest darkdays]

They is still okay with 1000 baht & still happy with 1500 and that is good for shortime.

[NIrishGuy]

"Lots of agreed long times end up short time as the boy has the only key to the room"

 

That's it ! the boys always want to know what business they can own that will make them millionaires, well there's their answer - a KEY CUTTING BUSINESS  !! :-)  As over the years the number of guys who have come out with the old "oh we only one key" line must surely be high enough to warrant one opening lol.  Really of course half times it's either a great excuse for them to escape either back to the disco or on to their next client whilst allowing them and me to save farce ( like I care!) OR actually perhaps half of them are so shocking bad at organising their own time that they do genuinely end up locked out of there shared room for whatever reason when their friends are away playing or working or both.

 

Mind you I guess if us damned ackward farang didn't insist on keeping the boys long time when ( no matter how many times we made that clear to them at the start ( they really only ever intended to stay short time anyway) then these keys problems wouldn't come up, so it really is all our fault ( of course :-)   

[vinapu]

my problem last time was not they did not want to stay long time but they did not want me to interrupt their precious sleep so Nirish is right , it's us farangs who are bringing this misery on ourselves by stocking unrealistic demands.

 

On more positive note  boy from A-Bomb I was planning to house overnight told me up front , before actual off he is for short time only, another one from Bonny Massage / BKK / changed his plans but again informed me up front before we left and suggested realistic reduction of his tip for short time and kept his side of bargain leaving at 3 a.m . on the dot as agreed so not all is that bad.