Off to Thailand

[Guest]

By then Anonone should be able to tell me which 2 boys from Vassa work well together.

Don't people normally recommend the 2 boys are hired from different bars? 

As they would be too shy to perform with or on their friends.

[Guest anonone]

That is the conventional wisdom, though I have had plenty of fun with 2 boys from the same bar as well.  I think it is more to do with the individual boys then the fact they work at the same place.

 

If attracted to alpha male / straight types, I could see the disadvantage of offing another boy from their place of work...it might limit the activity they would otherwise be willing to participate in....have reputations to uphold and all that.

 

For the twink types, I don't think it is quite as daunting. 

 

After saying all that, I rely a lot on the instincts of BF now.  He has a knack for knowing what is going to work well and setting things up.  The advantages of cultural knowledge.  LOL

 

Last trip (Sept) we took a boy from Vassa and had great fun.  It was not the one I was most attracted to...but deferred to BF advice....no regrets. 

[vinapu]

thanks for you report, as I see, you like BKK more than Pattaya - am I right?

Was pleased to check some spas websites - as you mentioned them

(and btw noting good for you in Sunee Plaza as you are more in muscle boys)

Definitely BKK over Pattya for me and it has nothing to do with boys, I just like big city life, period. In PTY if you remove night time activities not much left for me do do but definitely I will be trying to go back, missed few recommended bars unfortunately.

 

If you are Russian you have me on your side, at least in those 2 days I did not found any  base for some coplaints  about Russians in Pattaya, I think is all BS. I found them well behaved and good spenders, just can smile a bit more, otherwise are bliending in with all those sombre farangs.

 

 

As for websites keep in mind often pictures of atendees are not up to date,  sometimes it's good thing . Arena boys all look better in the flesh than on their website for example. Lots of Thais are actually looking younger than their pictures show.

 

I'm for muscle boys but costantly found myself in the company of twinks so preferences are one thing and what life brings , another.

[vinapu]

Another great update vinapu. 

 

It is quite a burden to feel all these obligations while on holiday.  Hopefully you will be able to complete your obligation in a manner not too unpleasant...dare to hope even enjoyable...?  LOL

 

It is very interesting to hear the various methods and strategies of different folks while on holiday in Thailand.  I wasn't aware that there were so many appointments made to meet up with the boys.  I have always been more of a go-with-the-flow type of visitor...even before BF. 

 

And I am now intrigued by the 4-hand massage.  As you indicated the 2 guys did not interact with each other, would you say it was worth it to pay the increased cost (minimum tip) for this at a Man2Man place, or just as well to have it at a more traditional shop?  Was the only hanky-panky a hand job by one of the guys? 

 

Anyone have any thoughts about that?  I guess in Pattaya, the only M2M place that it would make sense is Magnolia...for the better massage standard...but I can think of several other "regular" shops where it might be worthwhile for the massage aspect.  Anyone take a 4hand at any of the gay massage places.  Reports?

 

Hmmm...firecat puts the thought of a 4some in my head...and now vinapu causes this 4hand massage thought.

 

I am being corrupted by evil influences, I think.  LOL

 

Good luck on finding some fun today vinapu.  Have no fear about the Thai economy.  I arrive in less then a week, and will take your place as the economic stimulus....at least for Pattaya.

 

Cheers.

Heavier burden the better as I like manly boys. I enjoyed all of my encounters bar one  as previously described. Some flops but still good boys , sometimes it's just lack of chemisty and proper professional behaviour of their part otr may be me, ugly farang, who knows.

 

As for 4  hands I acted on urge to try new approach, in my particular case was worth it, boys co-operated greaty on me and sent me to high heaven, even now two days later I smile typing that. Will do it again but rather prefere one on one encounters. Did not mind to pay two tips and increased  shop fee.

 

My advice is starndard one -just try and see. But definitely do what I did and ask on eboy to select another one or mamasan dop this for you. It may be disaster if you go for looks and boys will not be compatible with each other going just for money.

 

I know it looks my time was very structured but in reality was not, If I see attractive boy I just try to secure my place in line, it why all those appoiontments.

 

I don't haver any complaints about Pattya massages, as good as in BKK, just offs were flops but all Magnolia, Derby , Copa and Boys Club in Boyztown  have good selection of boys and was glad to patronize all four.

 

Economy wise boys and bars did great with  me, restaurants so, so, I'm not  big eater. Shopping wise complete lack of contribution with 3 durable goods purchsed to take home, shorts, belt and suitcase as zipper broke in one I brought with me.

[vinapu]

Great trip reports Vinapu and any time you can put evil thoughts in the head of Anonone you have accomplished something.

Now it is Anonones's turn to pick up the story telling and I will return in 24 days.

 

By then Anonone should be able to tell me which 2 boys from Vassa work well together.  Or maybe I should ask his BF.  LOL

One thought here , recommendations are great but we still need to go by our own guts. Some of my boys would  impress very few and the same goes other way around, what is music for some it's just noise for others / jazz for me for example/

[vinapu]

Don't people normally recommend the 2 boys are hired from different bars? 

As they would be too shy to perform with or on their friends.

My input will be, go with boys want to ensure they enjoy time with you nad themselves.

I'd go for 4 hands massage again but threesome may be in next life only but again , each one looks for different spices for his meal.

[vinapu]

 

 

 

After saying all that, I rely a lot on the instincts of BF now.  He has a knack for knowing what is going to work well and setting things up.  The advantages of cultural knowledge.  LOL

 

Last trip (Sept) we took a boy from Vassa and had great fun.  It was not the one I was most attracted to...but deferred to BF advice....no regrets. 

You are in shackles now , you just don't know it and good for you. As long as you know you are not boss anymore lots of happy times ahead for both of you, my best for you

[vinapu]

So now we are in Saturday update, not much time as I left bed and a boy at noon. 

 

Early afternoon to Arena, to secure my night stand with Dit one of my trusted consolators. Set but for actual massage I took James ,muscular boy I saw last May. He improved greatly with mody mass, shed any fat remaining but cheerful as before. Great to talk to as well. Massage great but poor choice of cream of my side  -milk cream , smells like ice cream. Set an appointment for Sunday with James for long time off and promised  to pick up Dit at 9 p.m. in the evening.

 

Sounds awkward but is not, boys are talking about their customers and obviously James was updated on me. And thet know butterfly mode.

 

Next step little later was to support massage boys from my very own BBB Inn, picked up Noi, skinny twink but somehow attrcative to me. Good massage, versatile boy, entertaned himself more with watching porn on my TV than my carcass but we parted our ways happy.

 

Masages at BBB Inn are a bit awkward if you stay there, you get 20 % but in exchange ensurance that all hotel will know of what you like in bed, where you short , cheap Charlie or sucker for big tips  and so on.

 

Evening stroll through Silom and Patpong , moments og horror as I just busted my budget  and wanted to teke some money from Visa, tried 3 cards and it did not work / worked next morning so all good/

 

Took Dit off and second time in row Arena did not charge me off fee, likely because I had massage earlier today and Dit was scheduled till 9 only, but still nice gesture and savings of 700 for me.

 

Traditional routine, dinner and show before room. We went to Balcony in soi 4, soi very crowded on Saturday night but I did not like it at all, not my crowd , not my scene, Soi Twilight prefere 10 times over Soi 4. Sorry if offended anybody but rerst assured chances I will take a sit at your favourite table are minimal.

 

For show to Jupiter, usulal their standard., not much of nudity but few glimpses of erect cocks, bar very crowded with young Asian ccrowd and lots of adventirous ladies in attendance.

 

Then back to hotel with interruption of mne going back to Balcony where I left my bag, nothing there but they found it anf kept for me, tipped 100 baht for trouble.

 

As with trusted and time tested  friends no shocking news from encounter with Dit , all according to previously scripted specification, great guy and my great company.

 

Breakfast at Foodland Patpong, good deal they have , American breakfast for 59 baht befire 9 a.m. And plenty of Thai food for Dit to choose too , will ber leaving  BBB Inn in 12 minutes to need to finish but we are already on Sunday, my second last day before returniung to slavery.

[kokopelli]

No idea what you think but I was talking about this tank of water with small fish in it , you put your legs and they feast on your dead skin, great feeling and lots of tickling

 

What a relief! I thought a fish massage had something to do with a female masseuse . .

[Guest anonone]

You are in shackles now , you just don't know it and good for you. As long as you know you are not boss anymore lots of happy times ahead for both of you, my best for you

 

LOL  it does sound like that...

 

Sorry to hear your adventure is winding down.  It has been great to hear about all your fun.  Thanks for taking the time to keep us all updated. 

[vinapu]

Time is easy as I devoted this trip to the pleasures of flesh skipping sightseeing, shopping and other turisty stuff. But finfding internet cafee is not easy , some hotels  / Tarntawan, BBB INN  / have free internet , Malaysia has paid one / 40 bht /hr/ but Om Yim and Pavillion Place in Patpong has none.

 

At noon moved from BBB INN to Pavillion Place , right in Patpong , exactly above Screwboys. Price the same range  like Malaysia or Om Yim but I'm not that impressed . lets say adequate, Just one night / tonight  / but I need  room for whole day tomorrow as my flight leaves at midnight so did not want to pay 1320 at BBB Inn just for half day use plus I like changing places.

As for joys of Patpong you can't do better location wise.

 

As promised checked another one of Silom places , this time Playboys, went for twink with smile sitting outside.

 

Did not eat today by his admission and it was 3 p. m. but when suggested extras and I partially agreed and a tip was set he worked on me vigorously sporting an impressive appendage delivering quite a load, I'm telling .  For a boy of such a small stature quite a  surprise and his girfriend must be happy.

 

This is pretty big , multi storey place on Sala Daeng side of Silom close to the Rama end. Quite a few cuties always on the street on duty, looks could keep one occupied for a while. All appoinment conducted with utmost discretion with whispers and of course no showering together at all.

 

I start falling in love with those supposedly staright massage places as it looks possibility of surprises is abundant. May be will try another one tomorrow as good bye kiss. Still hope to land one today and have an arrangement made with James from Arena for the last night in BKK.

[Guest]

Time is easy as I devoted this trip to the pleasures of flesh skipping sightseeing, shopping and other turisty stuff. But finfding internet cafee is not easy , some hotels  / Tarntawan, BBB INN  / have free internet , Malaysia has paid one / 40 bht /hr/ but Om Yim and Pavillion Place in Patpong has none.

These days, most people use wifi & the Om Yim certainly has that.

A basic Samsung 7" tablet doesn't cost much, does internet browsing, fits in your pocket and doubles up as a e-reader.

If you want to type a lot, pair it up with a £20 Anker bluetooth keyboard.

 

So which of these hotels is the best?

I've been using nothing but the Om Yim for 5 years, so would be interested to know how the others compare.

[vinapu]

These days, most people use wifi & the Om Yim certainly has that.

A basic Samsung 7" tablet doesn't cost much, does internet browsing, fits in your pocket and doubles up as a e-reader.

If you want to type a lot, pair it up with a £20 Anker bluetooth keyboard.

 

So which of these hotels is the best?

I've been using nothing but the Om Yim for 5 years, so would be interested to know how the others compare.

I'm taking off at midnight today and after return home will try to summarize my findings about hotels,  bars, massages etc.

 

You are right about having private access to internet but my fear always is I will be spending too much time interneting and e-mailing neglecting vacation side of vacations. Will consider Samsund 7" as advised.

 

If you are using Om Yim stay there, nothing wrong and safe in the room  was working / was not at Tarntawan/

 

Boy from Playboy massage showed me an internet cafe  on 2nd floor next to their shop. All based at Silom will find location convenient.

Typing this right now and staring at the boy beside surfing GayRomeo .

[vinapu]

Back to updates. Saturday evening went to Soi Twilght and decided to try anoher massage place based there XSize massage.

 

Felt adventurous so grabbed first in line, diminutive Cambodian. Delivered surprisingly strong massage and offered extras equally fast but I declined, opting for some hugging and caressing instead. Getting more intimate with somebody who looks and feels  like my best friend grandson was beyond my abilities.

 

At 9.p.m. James was waiting for me downstairs from Arena, gave him 700 for off fee so he can pay them tomorrow and we went for a dinner and then to Dreamboys for as how again. For me is like entering den of lion  after misadventures   described above but decided to make a peace, tipped both #31 and #83 100 baht each  to show that I do not harbor hard feelings After show back to Pavilion Hotel for night of fun.

 

It ended surprisingly uneasy on departure in the morning. Decided to offer generous 3000 tip and clearly boy was disappointed to a point of being lost or he is good actor. He told  5000 minimum but I firmly told him I pay what is on the tab and he relented but declined to go for a breakfast with me.

 

What surprises me is where his expectancy would be coming from, did his coworker DIT lied to him about size of my tips for some reason?

I understand he may be trying to get more but facial expression did not lie, certainly he was disappointed like hell and was expecting more or did not expect any resistance from me and this was what disappointed him that I did not allow to be taken for a ride.

 

Still great guy and great company but definitely next time I off boy for short or long time fee will be firmly negotiated and announced before we will go.

 

Since this s last day decided to go a little touristy - took BTS to Saphan Taksin and at 9.45 boarded boat to Grand Palace.

 

Did not go there but took long stroll back home visiting ChristianPFC famous hunting ground at Saranrom Park. Obviously  no sing of boys  that early. Long stloll along Charoen Krung and exactly at 11.45 was back  on the Saphan Taksin's platform.

 

Obviously all those massages are working as it's quite a distance to cover in 90 minutes or so. Nice to surprise myself.

[ChristianPFC]

Thanks for your reports. I wonder about your hotel hopping. I dislike moving, so I stay in one hotel. Why do you change hotels so often (staying in the same area)?

[vinapu]

Christian , reasons for hotel hopping are two :

 

first butterfly by heart I guess, like to try new places, as travel lightly moving is no problem for me.

 

Second, in smaller hotels particularly , I don't want be object of  unnecessary staff attention a to my and my company comings and goings, for example few days ago staff at BBB was interested why I left boy in the room and went away / to pick up bag I left at Balcony and was back in less than 10 minutes/

 

To all, this is my last post from BKK , next update from home as my plane leaves at midnight and still want to spent sme time at soi Twilight, see boy special for the last time and pack, this is easy part.

 

If Korean Air crashes somewhere tonight wish me good rest in the next  world

[Guest]

You are right about having private access to internet but my fear always is I will be spending too much time interneting and e-mailing neglecting vacation side of vacations. Will consider Samsund 7" as advised.

7" model would be ideal for "light useage".   Also have a look @ 8" models if you're going to use it frequently.

 

 

Second, in smaller hotels particularly , I don't want be object of  unnecessary staff attention a to my and my company comings and goings, for example few days ago staff at BBB was interested why I left boy in the room

I try to ignore that kind of request.

Last year I had a receptionist advise me not to visit Soi Duangthawee and suggested I could find partners @ the disco. Well, I don't want to be in some noisy sweaty disco to 3:00 am hoping to find a nice partner, or worse any old partner for the night. So the advice was just disregarded.

 

Can also be helpful to ignore black looks @ breakfast from other customers when staying in non-gay hotels & dining with one's new best friend.

[kokopelli]

7" model would be ideal for "light useage".   Also have a look @ 8" models if you're going to use it frequently.

 

 

 

z909;  when I read that above I thought you were describing something quite different than a tablet!      I must have a dirty mind?

 

Earlier I did read your recommendations for tablets and checked them out and plan to get the 7" model.

[Guest]

I originally bought the 7" tab 2 last year as an e-reader, as the dedicated e-readers were just too clunky for my tastes.

 

However, it already gets used for a lot of browsing & I've already left the netbook at home on some European trips.

The tab weighs in at a mere 375g & can squeeze into larger trouser pockets. 

A 2 flat pin Innergie 3A USB charger can also charge the phone & is much lighter than the Netbook power supply as well. 

This charger gets good reviews on Amazon.com & is available in the big Thai shopping centres. 
 

The newer 8" Samsung tablet is the same width, but slightly longer & just a fraction quicker.  If they upgrade the processor on next years model, I might just be a customer.  

[vinapu]

7" model would be ideal for "light useage".   Also have a look @ 8" models if you're going to use it frequently.

 

 

I try to ignore that kind of request.

Last year I had a receptionist advise me not to visit Soi Duangthawee and suggested I could find partners @ the disco. Well, I don't want to be in some noisy sweaty disco to 3:00 am hoping to find a nice partner, or worse any old partner for the night. So the advice was just disregarded.

 

Can also be helpful to ignore black looks @ breakfast from other customers when staying in non-gay hotels & dining with one's new best friend.

Actually when connecting in Seoul last night  had a good look at Samsung 8" at the Incheon airport, looks sleek.

 

As for nosy hotel staff and guests I don't mind looking back and saying none of your business when asked / actually did quite a few times/ but still don't like scrutiny.

 

As for guest looks at the tables in hotels and restaurants it's just fine, on this trip on quite a few occasion I had  those approving winks, including 2 from ladies so no problem. 

[vinapu]

And this is the last update, early  Monday afternoon I decided to check former B&N, now called Uniman massage in Korea city , soi 12 on Sukhumvit close to Asok BTS. Raise your head when inside the building  , you will see banner on the 4 th floor , take elevator up there and is easy to find  .

 

At 2 p.m quite a few boys available all good looking, HERO type boys. Picked up  one with broadest shoulders and smile, happen to be the same boy, Art.

 

Great massage , I asked for a strong one before such a long flight. Lots of chemistry built up but unfortunately too late to invite him for overnight session he said would be willing to consider gladly. Surely next time, I missed this , my fault. 

 

Left in very good mood and with some time available decided to kiss good bye to Tau at Banana in the soi 11. I liked his massage last week and of course asked for repeat. I like the boy , his boss and the place. This time quite a big selection of boys , last time there were only 6 , now more than dozen.

 

Some may wonder if I'm not overmassaged or even making this up , but no , I just like the stuff both for body benefit / I barely slept those 2 weeks and still feeling good day after day / and for a thrill of this moment when boy's hands start wandering here and there.

 

Another great massage and missed long lime off opportunity , reason  to return.

 

Between 7-8 dining at Maxi's with my perennial consolator Namu from Bangkok boys across the soi, hoping one our our posters will show up but he did not , my fault likely as I left him message about my plans way too late.

 

Then again last last massage by him  , short one so some time was left for a mutual feeling of each other. I just like the boy and I landed him in May just a by rotation assignment. Chemistry thing, with 2 long time offs , massage at my room in the first night, at Bangkok Masage today and almost daily wai/ handshaking in the soi he had plenty of opportunities to ask me  for this or that but never did.

 

20 minutes were enough for me to pack, BTS from Sala Daeng to Phaya Thai, 10 p.m. express to Swamp and at 0.15left LOS for the 9 th time after longest stay there ever.

 

Will create separate post about my impressions of places but need to fight jet lag first. 

If even only one of you found my posts interesting or informative that my time typing them was well used.

[ChristianPFC]

Good to hear that massage works so well for you. I go about once per week, and then I would rather get my hands on his body than having his hands on my body.

 

What do you think, when is the best time (i.e. highest number of masseurs available) at Banana? I walked past several times, but nobody sits outside, and I don't want to pop in when there is high probability I will leave without massage. I quite like the style where all available masseurs sit outside, so I can have a look when I walk past.

[Guest anonone]

Great reports vinapu. Safe travels and hope the jet lag is not too bad.

[firecat69]

enjoyed all your reports.Might have to add some massages next trip . Good luck with the jet lag>

[vinapu]

Jet lag fought traditional way-forced myself to carry on throughout the day, went to bed about normal time, slept night through and is seems I'm over with it.

 

Good to hear that massage works so well for you. I go about once per week, and then I would rather get my hands on his body than having his hands on my body.

 

What do you think, when is the best time (i.e. highest number of masseurs available) at Banana? I walked past several times, but nobody sits outside, and I don't want to pop in when there is high probability I will leave without massage. I quite like the style where all available masseurs sit outside, so I can have a look when I walk past.

 

 It's 50 / 50 for me, first his hands on me , then other way around after massage done.

 

At Banana there's no room to sit outside as it is on the corner of busy soi 11 and a narrow sub soi whatever it is.

Both times I was there in the late afternoon, on Thursday only few boys , Monday 10 days later trice as much, did not count as spotted one I came for right away. So can't advise about good time , each of my 2 times may be statistic aberration either way.

 

Lobby inside is pretty big so boys are not in your face in case you don't like anybody but I agree it's awkward to come and leave empty handed. I guess they saw it all already so wouldn't worry but I like it there.

 

I saw actually quite a few places where you don't have boys sitting outside- all three places in City Court / Candle , Sawadtee and Sanctuary by A / Adonis,   Aqua, Uniman , Guy Spa, all of them you need to enter to see boys available.  

Eh, those were fabulous 15 days !