Screw Boys Monday 27.05.2013

[ChristianPFC]

Screw Boys Monday 27.05.2013

 

(Report about the new Screw Boys bar after renovation embedded in another extraordinary adventure of ChristianPFC in Thailand.)

 

My plan for the night was to check out the sex-cinema near Saphan Kwai BTS station and meet a Thai friend in Silom for a chat and to give back the bag he lend me when I was moving. However, it turned out completely different.

 

On my way from work to home, I walk past two Thai men who invited me for drink and chat many times before, but I always declined because I was on my way home. This time, a cute boy is sitting with them, so I join (and get name, age, phone number of the cute boy). The boy works in the area and lives nearby, I never saw him before. He has a tattoo (acceptable by my standards) that fills his entire back, I did not let the chance pass to look at it and even touched it when he lifted his shirt and showed it to us. So I spend 18:15 to 20:00 with them, eating mussels, drinking coke and beer (just a glass) and chatting. Then a Thai woman offers to take me home on a motorbike, I accept a drive to the market, but then insist on walking alone after shopping. She hinted that she would like to see my room, but you never know where that leads! Next time I have to get the cute boy to drive me home. General observation: In a group of Thai men, it’s usually the youngest I have a sexual interest in, and he is the one who is usually sent away to get food and drink.

 

It’s too late for the sex cinema, so I skip this and take a taxi to Surawong.

 

I arrive in Surawong at 22:09 and call my Thai friend, with whom I had an appointment at 10pm in Silom Soi 4. His replacement at work (hotel, 8pm) did not come, so he has to take over his shift and will work the entire night. No problem, we can meet another day. I have his empty bag which is light, but voluminous. That’s why I prefer to meet in Silom/Surawong, if something goes wrong, I can easily find other entertainment.

 

Walk through Soi Twilight. The cute Vietnamese boy is still at Scorpion and smiling at me. All bars seem to be at showtime. So I walk to Screw Boys, their show time is 11pm and 1:30am. I enter Screw Boys about 22:30 (new spelling: Screw Boys, before it was Screwboys if I remember correctly). Orange juice 280 Baht.

 

Tattoo count:

No tattoos: 10, 4, 14, 5, 3, 12, 9

Few tattoos: 28, 20

Many tattoos: 26, 11, 29, 17

 

There are not may slim or twink types, the majority is well-fed. Many have stuff in their underwear, one looks like he tried to stuff his week’s food shopping into his underwear. Their number plates (with keys) say “New Screw Boys”.

 

There are three cute boys: one waiter I met at Maxis’ a few months ago, boy number 11 and the DJ. The DJ smiles at me after a boy points out my interest in him. I can see a part of a tattoo on his chest which does not look promising (i.e. I think it would qualify for ‘hideous’ when I see it entirely). He wears a base cap (the only form of hat I find attractive, but it’s better to see the boys without a hat so there are no surprises when they take it off). Trying to off a DJ is just crying for trouble, so I don’t even ask. I saw him smoking cigarettes twice that night.

 

Music, aircon and light are acceptable. Toilets are clean, there is one towel which is damp. From the main auditorium, you cannot see the sign for the toilets (I just observed others and concluded where the toilets are). Boys and customers smoke in the bar (however I could not smell it, so no annoyance). Food is permitted, a group of customers on one table ordered food from outside. The majority of customers are Asian. There is one black man and a black woman among the customers (total three women as customers in the bar). I think the seating is unfavorable, half of the seats, you have to turn your head 90 degree to see the stage. Altogether, there is nothing that entices me to come back soon.

 

The show starts 23:16 and lasts until 00:08. There is some Sado-Maso (whipping with a rubber hose) and a fire show. One boy (external performer? Didn’t see him before) is a fire-eater and does other tricks with fire. The rest of the show is as in other bars. They have fuck show, the performer walk through the auditorium to ask for tips. Around midnight, the bar was full. During the show, most of the boys dress in street clothes.

 

The black man (Australian) and I sit on the same bench, with a lot of space between us. The black woman (US-American) comes in later, sits somewhere else first and then moves to sit between us. She starts a conversation with me, which within a few sentences turns into flirting with me. For better understanding, she speaks directly into my ear, then starts nibbling it, making moaning sounds and tells me her sexual fantasies that involve me. She asks me to kiss her, which I do (I never kissed a woman, but I am open to new experiences, even fucking a woman would be interesting, however I think physically impossible as I can’t get it up). I end up with her tongue down my throat. Some of the other customers and boys (I have known one boy for a long time and I know the waiter who used to work at Maxis’) look amused or bewildered.

 

All of us have finished our drink, the waiter asks if we want another one (two or three times), then asks us to pay, finally they even move the table so we can exit easier. When I am alone in a bar, I pay and leave quickly after finishing my drink (but one drink can last 2 hours!), however in company you don’t know who is waiting for whom, so we get into this embarrassing situation of overstaying our welcome. We leave around 1am. I recline offers to go to her hotel room (with the black man, who would be interested in watching us having sex), or at least to the bar at her hotel (in Sukhumvit Soi 4), but I am not averse to go to Soi Twilight.

 

There we end up at Scorpion Bar. The cute Vietnamese boy is sitting with three women and has his arm around one of them. Unfortunately, I sit with my back to him. The black women shows us pictures she has taken at Senso Massage with her iPad (no photography allowed, but with an iPad nobody notices) and of a massage boy she had in Pattaya, who has the largest dick in Pattaya. I am not that interested in cock, so I can’t judge, and there was no scale. I miss the chance to arrange kind of a threesome between me, the black woman and the Vietnamese boy. Scorpion Bar closes at 2am, we are asked to pay our drinks and to leave. Each of us pays his drink (I was waiting to see if the black woman picks up the tab as it sounded like an invitation). They close the metal roller blind and switch off the light while we are still sitting at the table. The Vietnamese boy is included in the cleaning up (put chairs on the tables, take out the garbage). He is still smiling at me, but I miss this chance to talk to him (to find out if we can communicate in Thai, and where he will go next).

 

On our walk to the food court at the Montien hotel, she meets a Thai boy she known, so he joins our group. She definitely knows how to chat up people, now she has us three as entourage. The Thai boy says he has to take his motorbike to a friend’s place before he can go with her, but he never comes back. So we three are left there for dinner. There, in better light, I think I can see clean shaved facial hair on her chin and neck, but I am not sure. That would add another twist to the story, and from face and voice I cannot determine gender with certainty (sounds familiar? Burmese woman who turned out to be a gay man?). Best to ask for her passport when we meet again. On the neighboring table, there is a cute boy, we smile at each other, but I miss the chance to ask where he works, then he leaves with his friends. We leave at 3:30 (again more being thrown out than leaving, as they are closing). I take taxi home and am in bed at 4am. I exchanged phone numbers with the black woman in Screw Boys and we will probably see again today. Let’s see where this leads.

 

I like her voice and she is quite entertaining (however with hindsight, there was nothing intellectual or sophisticated in our conversation). Several boys I know saw me kissing or hugging her, that will lead to some chatter. She fits the stereotype of an US-American, sometimes a bit too loud and too self-confident, and a few kg heavier than necessary. I had an interesting and fun night.

 

 

[Guest fountainhall]

You really should write a novel, Christian! It would have more twists and turns and excitement than most!

[TotallyOz]

Great story sir. And, I agree with FH, you should write a book.

 

It is interesting that you still see and speak of the Vietnam Boy. If I were a betting man, I'd bet we see him again in a future post after he leaves your room.

[khaolakguy]

Have you thought of a blog? Not that I want to stop you posting, as they're a good read, but I'd read your blog too!

[ChristianPFC]

Fresh Boys 28.05.2013

 

(The common thread is the black woman, so I post it here.)

 

She calls me in the afternoon, we agree to meet at night (20:30 in Soi Twilight). I am in Soi Twilight at about 20:45 and call her. She will be there at 9pm. I walk around inside and outside the Soi, waiting for her. 21:20 I call her again, but she doesn’t pick up. So I go to Fresh Boys and wait there for her. I barely ordered my drink, when she calls and later joins me in Fresh Boys.

 

Fresh boys has new underwear for their boys. Last year, they had hideous underwear that deterred me from entering. That was changed to acceptable underwear, and since a few weeks ago they have underwear that is ok by my standards.

 

Tattoo count:

No tattoos: 4, 6, 16, 26, 28, 29, 10, 33, 30, 31, 8, one boy who was offed before I could see his number

Few tattoos: 34, 9, 24, 18

Many tattoos: 1, 17, 21, 2, 32

 

There are three boys that I might take for free: 18, 17, 30. I think number 30 is the Vietnamese boy I had last year who asked for 2000 Bath for short time and whom I had to shove out of my room with 1600 after hard negotiations.

 

The music is too loud, aircon and light are ok during the rotation of boys. During the show, the lighting is horrible, mostly too dark, but then there are flashes that blind you. During show, most boys disappear into a back room. At least there are no ladyboys in the show. Show was from 22:18 to 22:48. Sprite is 280 Baht. On average there were five customers in the bar, when we were there (21:25 to 22:55) there were a total of 15 customers I guess.

 

We kiss again, this time staff express jealousy and disgust. There is one boy whom I had two years ago (via gayromeo, but who is not so much my type, won’t take him again) who is jealous. She puts her legs on top of mine, but later I have to ask her to remove them, they are too heavy!

 

We pay and leave (I give 20 Baht tip, she doesn’t tip, same as before in Screw Boys, so there are US-Americans who do not tip!). After a stroll through Soi Twilight, we end in Maxis’ for dinner.

 

She has two full meals (same yesterday at the food court), I just have dessert. We ogle at X-Boys, and she takes many pictures of Soi Twilight and X-Boys (open door), despite protestations of several of their doormen. The Thai boy from yesterday walks past, she invites him for a drink and asks him why he didn’t come back yesterday. I am pretty sure she has facial hair on chin and neck that is clean shaven.

 

We pay and leave at 00:55. On Surawong, she hooks up with a Thai boy (I think I saw him in Fresh Boys) and we say goodbye and they leave on a tuk-tuk. I am tired, so I can’t join them in her hotel in Sukhumvit (she would like me to stay with her overnight, even if no sex is involved, a wish I will be able to fulfill on the weekend).

 

Before going home, I stroll through the food court and Soi Twilight. I have the following chat with the Vietnamese Boy (translated from Thai):

“Do you speak Thai language?”

“No, I don’t.”

“Do you speak English?”

“I don’t know.”

It seems the communication problems on our first encounter (non-offable boy tread) were due to loud music (I had to shout when talking with the owner). But he is not interested in conversation with me, or he has instructions not to talk to customers?

 

I take taxi home from Rama 4. Today and tomorrow I need a rest, so we will probably meet again on Friday, hopefully for mutual benefit (this time her company was more of a burden).

[ChristianPFC]

X-Boys Friday 31.05.2013

 

(The common thread is the Black Woman.)

 

Black Woman calls ChristianPFC in the afternoon, so we make an appointment at 9pm in Soi Twilight.

 

Black Woman is in fact a man. Under better light, I could her facial hair is clean shaven, I saw the razor in the bathroom and more important, saw her naked twice before and after shower, which left no doubt. That’s no pussy that’s hanging between her legs (although my knowledge of pussy comes only from pictures). However I shall refer to him as her or she, as she considers herself as a woman, dresses like a woman, uses women’s public bathrooms and is looking for hook-up with straight men. She says the gay dating scene in Thailand is strange to her, as she is used to being invited for drinks by straight men. She says other tourists approached on Sukhumvit Soi 4 asking “How much?”.

 

Black lady wants to have dinner with ChristianPFC, but ChristianPFC usually has dinner right after work, when he is hungry, so this time, so we skip dinner and go to X-Boys. Simple lack of communication and assumption, ChristianPFC enjoys dinner with friends, but you have to talk about place and time before you meet. At 21:05, we are the first customers. There was light rain outside when we entered. Drink 300 Baht.

 

Tattoo count:

No tattoos: 47, 31, 7, 555, 28, 60, 45, 009, 22, 52

Few tattoos: 44, 55, 33, 10, 2, 51, 37, 888, 14, 21, 38, 53, 666, 002

Many tattoos: 24, 444, 56, 6, 27

 

Aircon and light ok, music a bit too loud, smoking allowed.

 

There is one cute boy, number 33, whom she calls over to sit with me (again miscommunication, I call over a boy when I think so). Mamasan presses me for drink for the boy, no way. I tell her the music is too loud and ask her to lower the music, she does not move. After a few minutes she hints the boy has to go back on stage, so I tip him 100 Baht. His English is ok, but the hand-on-skin test was negative: When I put my hand on someone’s skin (in gogo bars usually the boy’s knee or shoulder), I can feel if skin temperature und dryness is to my liking, and sometimes I even get a slight reaction in my trousers if everything is fine. Not in this case.

 

Black woman leaves to have dinner at Maxis’. I stay in X-Boys until the show starts at 22:15. I walk through the soi (cute Vietnamese boy is still in Scorpion Bar, this day white shirt, before always dressed in black). Then I join Black Woman in Maxis’. My Thai friend W is there as well (the one whom I housed and fed for two days during Songkran when he had no place to stay and no money for food) and invites me for a drink, now that his situation is better. This is a first! By coincidence, there was just one empty chair between Black Woman and my Thai friend W.

 

We leave Maxis’ and Black Woman tells me she wants a massage at a place not far away (Proud 66 as it turned out). Why didn’t she tell me earlier, so I can plan accordingly? We walk there together, with a short stop in Heart Beat Club (just looking, no drink). She gets her massage and I chat with the other boys outside, and one of them is my type. Unremarkable at first, but when I watch him move and interact with the other, he sticks out in a positive way. I buy them two bottles of Leo (one boy asked me for it). I make a stroll to Soi 6 bars, nothing new. I return and hint to the cute boy that I would like him to come with us (Black Woman and I) to her hotel in Sukhumvit Soi 4. For dancing and drinking it would be possible for him to come with us, but to hotel room cannot. I get more direct and offer 1000 Baht for short time. He does not accept this offer. Sukhumvit Soi 4 is so far away! Are they kidding me? Another boy in the group mentions 3000 Baht.

 

I don’t know why it’s 3000 Baht, I heard this number several times. From the non-available boy in Saranrom, from a Taxi driver with whom I talked about Saranrom and who said that his son went there and got 3000 Baht (maybe I misunderstood that, but it was about 3000 Baht). The boy from Dreamboys whom I met in G.O.D. I wonder where they get this number from.

 

Black Woman chats with two other boys, both of them are very reticent about going to hotel, clearly not for 1000 or 1500 Baht, they would consider it from 2000 Baht onwards. We have a walk to Soi Patpong and return to Proud 66. Around 1:30 am, they are still there, shop is now closed. I offer 1500 to the cute boy. No way! He says he goes home to sleep. One of the other boys suggest we come back tomorrow, and he can massage her or me for 2000 Baht tip. This is the tipping point, where I realize that everyone here (including me for increasing my offer from 1000 to 1500, never did this before) has lost his/her/their mind. The boys about tip expectations and Black Woman and I for negotiating about tips.

 

Side note: The cute boy had fingernails on his pinkies about 1 cm long. All other fingers were cut short. I wonder how he can give a massage with these fingernails.

 

There must be something wrong if these boys reject a short time for 1000 or 1500 Baht because they want to go home to sleep, but can commute to and from work by taxi (the cute boy lives in Thonburi and commutes by taxi - that’s what he told me, I saw him leaving on a motorbike). I prefer it like it is in Sunee or Saranrom: “Can I go with you?” “No, take me!” “No, take me, please!”. Now these are massage boys and no prostitutes, but I am sure they know what’s going on in nearby places and know what to do to increase their tip for the massage. The only problem is I don’t want his hands on my body, I want my hands on his body, and if I pay, I want to dictate place and time.

 

We go to Soi Twilight and there, after most gogo bars have closed, are a few boys around and one of them is my type. I think it’s the same I saw on Monday at the food court. He is from Cambodia and is happy to come with us for 1500. Black Woman hooks up with another boy from the group and all four of us get a taxi to her hotel.

 

Each of us has sex with his boy. Sex is so-so. It’s a bit too dark, the music is a bit too loud, and I have cold feet (when aircon is on, I always have to wrap my feet in the duvet during sex so they stay warm). I pay my boy 1500.

 

Black Women quickly realizes that her boy can’t fuck her because he can’t get it up and it’s too small by her standards, so she switches over to get a massage from him. This does not work well, too. She dismisses him with 500 Baht. Black Woman’s voice and actions show that she is used to give commands and does not accept contradiction, the boy accepts without saying a word. I wonder what the boys talk about us.

 

The two boys leave at 3:25. Black Woman wants to go out again, dressing up takes about half an hour. She asks a taxi driver to take us to a disco. It’s “Spicy” where we stay 4:05 to 5:10 (300 Baht entry including one drink, she pays for both of us). After disco, we have whatever you call a meal between 5 and 6 in the morning, before going to bed at 6:20 in the morning. We sit down and each of us gets a menu, Black Women immediately starts chatting with people on the next table (two youngish Farang and two Thai girls) for about 15 minutes while I fend off the waiters saying that my friend hasn’t chosen yet. Then they leave, and Black Women suddenly gets back to ordering food, clicking her fingers and waving her arms at the staff: “Hello, is there anyone who can take my order? I want to order food now!”

 

I don’t remember when I last time went to bed that late or saw a sunrise, but I don’t want to repeat this experience. This completely screws up my wake-sleep rhythm.

 

In front of the restaurant, she asks a standing taxi for the fare to Sukhumvit 4. He quotes 100 Baht. She then turns to a random passer-by (youngish Farang, probably previous customer at Spicy): “Why do they always overcharge foreigners?” (stupid question, with a bit of experience you know that standing taxis in certain locations refuse to use the meter and overcharge). I don’t understand his answer, but her reaction is funny: “Honey, I’m not flirting with you. Calm down, nobody is trying to pick your scrawny little white ass up. I just asked you a simple question!” Hilarious!

 

We are back in her hotel at 6:20am and go to bed. We wake up in the late afternoon and Black Woman starts touching my dick, gets it half hard and continues with sucking. Good technique, but I have no imagination, I can’t get my mind around that there is actually a big black guy and not a Thai twink on my dick. But if I could get my hands and eyes on a Thai twink, that would make all of us happy. Maybe next time. She gets me hard enough to pull a condom over and insert my dick into her ass. But then I lose my erection, so she just has a wank. Both of us get up (17:45) and shower (separately). She takes pictures of me while I walk in her room in underwear or towel. (She takes pictures of everyone everywhere when she feels like it, without asking and even after protests from doormen at X-Boys.)

 

She needs half an hour to get ready, we leave her room 18:30. Black Woman asks me what I just wrote down (on my expenses sheet, which I use for general notes as well). “I just wrote that we got up at 17:45 and left at 18:30, which implies that you need half an hour to get ready, whereas I need just 5 minutes.” “Did you take any more notes about me?” I scroll through notes from previous days “No, nothing special” “So that’s all, that I need 30 minutes to get ready for going out?” “Yes” I didn’t tell her that I share our adventures and her character flaws on the internet to a growing worldwide readership of gay men. That’s my revenge for her taking pictures of me semi-nude (or even nude?) in her hotel room without asking me.

 

We have dinner in a Pizzeria not far away from her hotel on Soi 4. All meals we had together, she can’t just order something from the menu like normal people do, there is always some fuss. In this case, she doesn’t even look at the menu, just asks the owner (?) “Do you have pasta? Is it good?”, in other cases she wanted more of this and less of that and so on. Or she tells me “Try this! Don’t you think this food is too salty/sour/spicy/bland?” While we are eating, she is watching the people who walk past, commenting on who is handsome and who not, and even knocking on the window from inside to get the attraction of someone who is walking past and whom she considers handsome.

 

When we pay, Black Woman asks me for 60 Baht because she has no small change. (Oh no, we had this before, she still owes me 40 Baht I lend her to purchase fake eyelids, but I got back 100 Baht for taxi.) I tell her: “Listen, you pay with your 1000 Baht note and give you the 360 Baht my meal cost. That way, you will have small change. I always have small change, because I know I will need it, I am speaking of experience, I got into unpleasant situations because I had no small change!” “But you didn’t have small change when I paid your entry at Spicy!” “That was an invitation, I would never have gone to that place and especially not at that time!” “But I would never have gone to that Twinky bar and thought you invited me. Actually, that’s what I’m used to from America”. Communication, communication!

 

After almost 24 hours with her, I am exhausted. I feel like being entourage or an escort (without pay). This difference in character is interesting for a while, but then it becomes strenuous. She can chat up everyone and has music in her blood. In gogo bars, she starts singing and dancing on her seat. ChristianPFC on the contrary has a policy: no singing, no dancing. Maybe I can learn from her: if the situation had been the other way round (i.e. if I had had a sexual interest in her, but am not her type), I would have been sitting in the bar waiting for the right moment to approach her and looking for the right words to say until she had left the bar. She on the other hand, got to kissing within five minutes and got me into her bed within five days. That women know what she wants and how to get it, and she doesn’t take “no” as an answer!

 

While we stay on the sidewalk and say goodbye (kisses on both cheeks and mouth and hand-holding), a Thai friend whom I have known for over two years and met several times (in Pattaya, Bangkok, and his home town) walks past on the opposite site with his Farang boyfriend. We wave at each other. Black Woman goes back to her hotel, ChristianPFC joins his Thai friend and his (ChristianPFC’s Thai friend’s – “his” is ambiguous in this context) boyfriend for a drink in a restaurant not far away. You have to be careful, I wouldn’t wave my arm at a Thai friend who is with someone else, I wouldn’t even acknowledge him in a way that others notice, but my Thai friend initiated it and invited me to join them, so it must be ok with his boyfriend to meet other Farang friends. Finally some normal people!

 

ChristianPFC takes BTS and bus back to his place to get some well-deserved rest. He calls a friend (Lamlukka hairdresser from Singapore former ICK) to ask if he is free on Sunday. That will be a separate topic.

 

Next week (i.e. this week), I will take some rest as well with hopefully uneventful meetings with old friends and new acquaintances from gayromeo. I have to get away from areas of prostitution and meet some normal people.