What Would You Do If . . . ?

[ChristianPFC]

Everytime I am away for a few days (Songkran in this case, see complete report on SGT or gaybuttonthai), I miss something interesting (that thread on SGT, now removed).

 

Fountainhall, you can count yourself lucky, I don't remember when was the last time a handsome men smiled at me and we exchanged phone numbers and met! But I have plenty of children, older men and women who are interested in chatting with my in my area.

 

Now serious:

 

I have been in a similar situation with the Vietnamese boy I offed from Fresh Boys (?) half a year ago. He wanted 2000 Baht and refused to move. I finally got him out of my hotel room for 1600. The difference was that I was taller, heavier and probably stronger than him, so could have moved him out with force.

 

And there was the Cambodian moneyboy whom I met at the parking area of the Malaysia hotel and took to my place (Soi Sri Bam Pen in Jan-Feb 2011). That was clearly my mistake to assume that he goes with me for free, I offered 500 and he finally left with 600, after refusing to move.

 

About watching your back: if he is in the business he must know what the going rate is and if you give him some money (I would have given 1000 Baht, that already includes taxi to whereever he lives, actually there is an aircon bus from Silom to Rangsit for 20 Baht and a normal bus from Hua Lampong for 6,50 Baht) he will probably quickly forget the incident.

[khaolakguy]

Agree with most of the posters here that the least bad result in this situation, is to get the guy out, without either of you losing face. 500 - 1,000 Baht would be the compromise. 

 

Now you have one very pissed off guy out there, pissed off at you, and he won't forget you. Hopefully you'll never come across each other, although he does know where you live.

[Guest fountainhall]

Well, Bt. 450 was pretty close to your compromise. However, as I have said at least a couple of times above, I agree with you.

 

But I do find the comment about someone knowing where I live rather strange. Why? It implies that someone I have "pissed off" is going to come round, or send others, to try and do . . . what? Rough me up? Do some damage to my condo? Well, he's taking his time about it! Maybe he came around when I was away for a week in your neck of the woods - assuming you live in Khao lak. (Yes, I was there for a week at the start of the month). Maybe he's tried this week, but had similar bad luck because I am staying elsewhere for 10 days whilst my condo is renovated and repainted. Even if he continues to bear a grudge next month, I'm away for more than two weeks in North Asia. Should I happen to be in the apartment, though, he'd still have to get past security and use a fingerprint to gain access. Unlikely that is going to happen (although I grant, not impossible).

 

I don't mean to be flippant, but just as some have automatically assumed - on this and other Boards - that the young man was a money boy (something I do not believe - I believe it was a rather instant decision on his part), so they assume that by paying only Bt. 450 for a taxi I have somehow put my life in some danger. Now I fully accept that that scenario in some circumstances is perfectly possible - and indeed has probably happened before - depending on the person concerned. Without going into a minute-by-minute account of what happened over almost a three-hour period, it's difficult for others to assess the situation. I did so as best I could bearing in mind the long time I have spent in Thailand and the personality of the young man. I made a judgement call. It was, I now agree, wrong. But if I had at any time believed that my own person, then or in the future, would be at risk, I'd have reassessed that situation in an instant. 

 

As to meeting again in the future, where would that likely happen, I wonder? We had established long before the taxi fare business that he lived out in Rangsit and that all his friends live in the Ratchada/Ladprao area. Apart from work, he does not come in to the central district, even to go to discos. So in Bangkok the only likely place we might meet up again is that large bank - the huge branch of that particular bank, by the way, not some small sub-branch. But I am there once every four months at most. So the statistical likelihood of meeting that young man ever again in a city as large as Bangkok is, I reckon, pretty close to zero. In Pattaya, it might be very different. But then I do not live there.

 

But I asked for comments, and I thank you for yours. I'm glad this story has raised some important issues.

[Guest]

I don't quite see why anyone should fear threats after an individual has unreasonable expectations following an encounter. Sometimes principles must come first.

 

 

I removed someone from my room by force in Berlin a few years ago.

This kicked off after I spotted a cute looking guy lurking around the Fuggerstrasse gogo bars. Normally would avoid taking anyone who looked to be of Arabic origin, but he seemed cute, polite & had wonderful slim legs. We negotiated and then chatted whilst walking back to my apartment.

 

The moment I opened the door, all changed.

He confidently sauntered in as though he owned the place. His whole demeanour changed & he started getting very difficult. I then asked him to remove his shirt he refused.

 

He then refused to leave, after I opened the door and invited him to do so.

 

I walked into the room & swiftly propelled him towards the door, as he reached the door, his arms moved out to grab the door frame, so I moved one foot to trip him & he went head first though the door. I slammed the (steel) door shut and he left immediately.

[kokopelli]

Funny thing is - whenever I have seen khaolakguy's handle up to now, my brain had always read it as koalaguy! Perhaps I was subconsciously aware of an antipodean connection 

khaolak = Khao Lak (Thai: เขาหลัก (Pronunciation)) is a region of seaside resorts located in the Takua Pa District of Phang Nga Province, Thailand. It is popular for its serene ambiance and as a departure point for liveaboard scuba diving trips to the Similan Islands.

[Guest Assuperman]

Certainly farang like to play with fire. Or they probably dont know what they really want. I offeref mutual benefit over lunch or drinks, but none are interested. Its like in thailand; when you found out many that can sleep with you, its no longer special or exciting. Its boring and so common. On the contrary, im young, free, and certainly not boring

[Guest Kittyboy]

I generally take the attitude that I do not know what a Thai guy wants. I also am generally non confrontational. I have been in similar situations as the op..I would put 500 baht in each front pocket of my pants before meeting...at the end of the assignation I offer 500 baht as taxi fare...if the person refuses the money no problem...if they take the money no problem...if they want more I pull out the other 500 give that to them..if they take the money no problem....if they want more. I show I have no more money and generally they would leave.

[Guest Kittyboy]

Gg

[Guest ryanasia]

Didn't read all of the posts regarding whatever was going on at some other site but... Next time somebody follows you out of the bank with what is likely their girlfriend and starts eyeing you up at the ATM maybe this is a signal? The other thing tha comes to mind is he didn't give out his number and only took yours. Of course this isn't your fault and you really had no obligation to pay him. Although I am guessing you have been in Thailand quite awhile and could have read between the lines a bit better?

[Guest fountainhall]

Didn't read all of the posts regarding whatever was going on at some other site but... Although I am guessing you have been in Thailand quite awhile and could have read between the lines a bit better?

 

Correct on both counts. But as I stressed in some of the posts, he eyed me not at the ATM. We were in the banking area where there are no ATMs when I first noticed him smiling at me. Later, as I was leaving, I turned around and saw him still looking at me. Since that exit takes you past all the ATM machines, that's when I decided to linger and make it look as though I was searching for a ATM card. I was curious. I certainly did not know it was his girlfriend - merely assumed it might be.  They took the same exit (as most customers apparently do) and things followed on from there after she had walked on leaving him looking back at me.

 

I'll say no more as too much has already been said - apart from one thing. You find it strange that "he didn't give out his number and only took yours." Now, don't you think that if he had been a money boy,  he would have automatically given me his number? After all, we had been chatting and he had given me his name before I gave him my card. I have come across money boys in various places. Are't they they usually the ones most anxious to hand out their numbers?

[Guest ryanasia]

Your reasoning is as good as any as far as the number thing goes. Glad nothing bad went down and everybody got home okay.

[Guest fountainhall]

Thanks. I have learned a lesson!