THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION ANSWERED

[Guest ear wig]

What is the difference......................With str8 or Gay Guyz

 

 

Let me give you a lesson about Gaythailand as I have been cumming to Thailand just about every year since 1976 and made a study of the Thai culture I consider my self a mini expert, may be you know different.............

 

When your talking about straight in the money for sex business the guys are from partly to completely straight, as you may know you can never make any one gay, you are what you are either gay friendly or working in the sex business, if your just working then its like a job they find what you like and perfect it to please you.

 

I can tell you many do not like to kiss or give blow job, to them no matter how manly of an Alpha male they are, no matter how you try to convince yourself they love it, to be fcuked is so easy and a lot more appealing, as a non gay and 90% are, this is from not at all gay 0 to 50% then you have from 50% to 90% who take to it as though they are gay or just curious and enjoy sex as sex, then from 1 to 49% in strength of gayness, but still prefer a woman to a man, if they have a choice, then you have 10% who only want a man same as all over the world.

 

That is not to say they will not do everything to please you, we are talking about what a straight guy prefers, many will go through the karma sutra for you, but when you ask unless they are new or can get away with it, to take is first choice, or you do everything to them.

 

For Instance I use to have the Hots for a guy called Tiger from Future Boys he would never let me fcuk him, then one day I go into FB he was being f..... on stage I could not belive it, after the show he came over, I said what you doing for years you said no, he said I have no visa the boss said I get 280 baht extra if I do it on stage or no job................so its all a business agreement, so dont be confused any other way..........if you want a Thai guy to love you, Respect is the only way and they do not respect guys who shower them with money or jewels, they think they are crazy but take it.........gays boys are not always lady boys, the gay boys who look straight are the boys many look for but they are few and far between, even so they are there if you know what your looking for.

 

After saying that you treat them with love and understanding and give them security and dont boss them around to much, in other words let them know the rules and stick to them, they will love you for ever, many do not have loving parents apart from mother, who they love but many do not show love in front of father, so to have you is a wonderment for them.

 

The 30% who like lady boys is 30% of the customers not the boys, that is why if any bar has more the 3 lady boyz out of 10 boyz on stage its over kill and farangs dont stay to long. some mamasams love to have lady boys, many of them, because they love the bar to feel like a Party for them not you, and some bars like to atract customers who like lady boys, so as you see all the differences have reasons, now you know.

 

If you want to make money selling boys to customers, its simple Ive been telling potential bar owners till Im bored with it, spend 3/4 of your budget on the Bar and a 1/4 looking for the boys next door look, pref with a personality, atitued and "MAKE THEM DANCE" or a big portion, see BOYZ BOYZ BOYZ/KAOS/TAWAN/FUTURE BOYS/ADAMS APPLE.................then copy it, making it better. simple. BORED STAFF MAKE BORED CUSTOMERS>>>>>>BORED CUSTOMERS DONT SPEND MONEY HAPPY ONES DO.

 

i say no more

[Guest Pearl69er]

"' to be fcuked is so easy and a lot more appealing, as a non gay and 90% are, this is from not at all gay""

 

This used to be the excuse given by straight hustlers in the west working the gay scene-being

screwed was acceptable as if they had to screw ( a guy)-it meant getting an erection and therefore cast a slur on their hetrosexuality. It never quite convinced me but I am glad they thought that way.

 

At least guys in Thailand do it with a smile-even if they are faking.

[Guest KhunPA]

This thread reminds me of "The Diary of a Mad Housewife."

 

 

[Guest ear wig]

This thread reminds me of "The Diary of a Mad Housewife."

 

Yes KhunPA I wish you would leave your rolling pinn and face pack and curlers at the door, when you cum in my kitchen

[Guest wowpow]

 

Tiger Tiger burning bright

In the bars of Soi Twighlight

 

A friend asked a boy about Tiger and the reply was "Him Superstar off every night"

He was very obviously straight and headed for any women in the bar. He was popular with Japanese women and most men having a slightly androgenous quality.

 

Once the bar was raided on their happy birthday during a handsome boy competition. Farangs were allowed to leave. Surprise! Tiger was already outside watching events.

 

There are many words of wisdom in Earwigs thoughts. Few indeed have patronised bar, boys and late night parties to the degree that he manages.

 

Not that he spoils his boys - just a small farm and the half dozen motorbikes. He does manage to keep them for years though.

 

There are virtually no ways for poor boys to gain wealth. Hard work and application don't work here. Top jobs are all sewn up by the Chinese Thai families. The one available route of the forces still require good education.

 

So finding a wealthy patron is attractive and keeps the guys flowing towards "working" in the bars fed by tales of fabulously wealthy farangs showering money on their loved ones.

 

earwig - you know that SHOUTING headlines is a temptation to be RESISTED.

 

 

 

[Gaybutton]

There are many words of wisdom in Earwigs thoughts.

 

Yes, indeed there are. I read all three of them.

 

I have a question: "as a non gay and 90% are, this is from not at all gay 0 to 50% then you have from 50% to 90% who take to it as though they are gay or just curious and enjoy sex as sex, then from 1 to 49% in strength of gayness, but still prefer a woman to a man, if they have a choice, then you have 10% who only want a man same as all over the world."

 

The question is where are these percentages coming from? What is the source?

[Guest Pearl69er]

This thread reminds me of "The Diary of a Mad Housewife."

you have given me one of the best laughs of the day

[Up2u]

Yes, indeed there are. I read all three of them.

 

I have a question: "as a non gay and 90% are, this is from not at all gay 0 to 50% then you have from 50% to 90% who take to it as though they are gay or just curious and enjoy sex as sex, then from 1 to 49% in strength of gayness, but still prefer a woman to a man, if they have a choice, then you have 10% who only want a man same as all over the world."

 

The question is where are these percentages coming from? What is the source?

"Let me give you a lesson about Gaythailand as I have been cumming to Thailand just about every year since 1976 and made a study of the Thai culture I consider my self a mini expert, may be you know different............."

 

It's obvious to me. He has been performing his own "exit" polls since 1976. However, as we know the accuracy of "exit" polling is questionable but it is my sense his percentages are in the ballpark.

[Guest gonefishing]

What is the difference......................With str8 or Gay Guyz

as a non gay and 90% are, this is from not at all gay 0 to 50% then you have from 50% to 90% who take to it as though they are gay or just curious and enjoy sex as sex, then from 1 to 49% in strength of gayness, but still prefer a woman to a man, if they have a choice, then you have 10% who only want a man same as all over the world.

 

i say no more

 

Sorry, I am even more baffled than before.

 

GB, if you understood three words of wisdom, or actually understood anything at all, you are doing better than me. I know that English can be hard as a second language, but I had thought that mathematics and percentages were the same the world over.

 

90% non gay (straight?) - this presumably covers the 0 to 50% not all gay and the 50% to 90% curious, etc

 

1 to 49% in strength of gayness, etc (bi?)

 

10% who only want a man (gay?)

 

90 + 49 + 10 = 149 ??

 

Where do the "3 lady boyz out of 10 boyz on stage" (30%) fit in (metaphorically / mathematically speaking)?

 

Maybe percentages have changed. Do we have a mathematician or a translator in the house?

 

If only 1 in 10 of those working in gay bars are gay, including the "lady boyz", then I must have been very lucky in those whom I have known - or earwig and U2U have been particularly unlucky.

 

I doubt if "The Diary of a Mad Housewife" really covers it - more like a mad woman's period, to use an expression I heard a long time ago!

"i say no more

[Guest ear wig]

 

Tiger Tiger burning bright

In the bars of Soi Twighlight

 

A friend asked a boy about Tiger and the reply was "Him Superstar off every night"

He was very obviously straight and headed for any women in the bar. He was popular with Japanese women and most men having a slightly androgenous quality.

 

Once the bar was raided on their happy birthday during a handsome boy competition. Farangs were allowed to leave. Surprise! Tiger was already outside watching events.

 

There are many words of wisdom in Earwigs thoughts. Few indeed have patronised bar, boys and late night parties to the degree that he manages.

 

Not that he spoils his boys - just a small farm and the half dozen motorbikes. He does manage to keep them for years though.

 

There are virtually no ways for poor boys to gain wealth. Hard work and application don't work here. Top jobs are all sewn up by the Chinese Thai families. The one available route of the forces still require good education.

 

So finding a wealthy patron is attractive and keeps the guys flowing towards "working" in the bars fed by tales of fabulously wealthy farangs showering money on their loved ones.

 

earwig - you know that SHOUTING headlines is a temptation to be RESISTED.

 

Just look at that smile have you ever seen a Thai boy smile on camera naturally, this is his fun personality all the time.

 

You are amazing WowPow fancy you having a picture of Tiger even though it is more recent to when I knew him he sure was a super star as you said, what is more amazing some people think i make all this rubbish up and this guy was something completely different to most of the others he had a way with him, magical I would call it.

 

You seem to know me to well thirs me trying to let people know Im a poor old pensioner with not a cent to my name and your dispelling it by telling the truth lol. well at least it was good until I realized you dont have to buy a boy a farm to make him love you for ever, even though I will one day tell you a funny story about the farm, it was good fun now I think of it, not at the time though.

 

Some time I have to shout to wake up those who have fallen asleep! oh no I forgot that is sawatdee,.........

 

DONT FORGET WOWPOW :-

 

"OLD BIRDS ONLY PICK AT THE BEST FRUIT"

 

SO I WAITING AND READY FOR ALL THE INSULTS.

[Guest ear wig]

Sorry, I am even more baffled than before.

 

GB, if you understood three words of wisdom, or actually understood anything at all, you are doing better than me. I know that English can be hard as a second language, but I had thought that mathematics and percentages were the same the world over.

 

90% non gay (straight?) - this presumably covers the 0 to 50% not all gay and the 50% to 90% curious, etc

 

1 to 49% in strength of gayness, etc (bi?)

 

10% who only want a man (gay?)

 

90 + 49 + 10 = 149 ??

 

 

 

You Poor thing Fishy, Im sorry you have gone to all the trouble to show what you think is telling us your so Intellectual, in doing so i dont think you are as clever as you make out, its not rocket science you know.

Ill keep is short as i know you cant take it all in at once.

Imagine a circle half the circle is str8 but working to please you with there body.

Now the other half is broken up with 10% of it completely gay who search out men for love by preference......................

The other 40% is made up of if 1 is just curious and 10 is more then interested but still look for a women for their own pleasure

I will not complicate it any more as I know your finding it difficult.

Where do the "3 lady boyz out of 10 boyz on stage" (30%) fit in (metaphorically / mathematically speaking)?

 

Maybe percentages have changed. Do we have a mathematician or a translator in the house?

 

If only 1 in 10 of those working in gay bars are gay, including the "lady boyz", then I must have been very lucky in those whom I have known - or earwig and U2U have been particularly unlucky.

 

I doubt if "The Diary of a Mad Housewife" really covers it - more like a mad woman's period, to use an expression I heard a long time ago!

"i say no more

 

 

 

 

 

You Poor thing Fishy, Im sorry you have gone to all the trouble to show what you think is telling us your so Intellectual, in doing so I dont think you are as clever as you make out, its not rocket science you know.

 

Ill keep it short as I know you cant take it all in at once.

 

Imagine a circle, half the circle is str8 but working to please you with there body, but not there mind.

 

Now the other half is broken up with 10% of it completely gay, who search out men for love by preference......................

 

The other 40% is made up of:- if 1 is just curious and 10 is more then interested, bi-sexual to us but to them no hang ups, but still look for a women for their own pleasure

 

I will not complicate it any more as I know your finding it difficult.

 

There is 3 out of ten maximum lady boys because only 3 in ever ten customers are looking for ladyboys.

 

I hope this helps you to understand better the same as most guys do already.

[Guest Pearl69er]

Sorry, I am even more baffled than before.

 

90 + 49 + 10 = 149 ??

 

Theres no mystery there fishy-nearly half them are obviously schizophrenic.

[Gaybutton]

I'm still waiting for the answer to my question. Where are these percentages coming from? What is the source?

 

 

[bkkguy]

What is the source?

 

studies show that 78.26% of all statistics quoted in discussion forums are made up on the spot!

 

bkkguy

 

 

[Guest gonefishing]

Im sorry you have gone to all the trouble.... its not rocket science you know.

 

Now the other half is broken up with 10% of it completely gay....

 

I will not complicate it any more as I know your finding it difficult.

 

I hope this helps you to understand better the same as most guys do already.

 

Thanks for the help, but adding up 90, 49 and 10 was not really too much trouble.

 

I am relieved that you did not complicate it too much - I am already having a problem with the maths again, as "10% of it" (the other half) is actually only 5% of the whole!

 

I can, however, follow what you have deduced based on your own experience, which I readily accept is considerable. This appears to be that 50% are totally straight but "gay for pay"; 40% are bi to varying degrees and only 10% are totally gay, some of whom are lady-boys.

 

The problem is that your deductions are based on your personal experiences with the boys and on the assumption that "what you see is what you get", which may not necessarily be true. The one controlling factor that you appear to have overlooked, however, is any sexual chemistry / sexual attraction between the boy and the customer which does exist in all sexual liaisons to a greater or lesser degree, although this can obviously be masked by the financial incentive and by the acting ability of the boy concerned. A boy who appears to be in the 50% straight category, for example, may simply not be able to perform with a customer due to a total lack of any sexual attraction which he cannot overcome by acting, although he may in fact be totally gay but only able to perform with the right partner. On the other hand a boy who appears to be in the 10% totally gay category, irrespective of whether he is the lady boy or boy next door type, may in fact be totally straight but just a good actor and able to control his emotions and his physical reactions.

 

The old adage that you cannot judge a book by its cover is particularly true where sexual preferences are concerned - for example a transvestite / cross-dresser may be totally straight, although to judge solely by outward appearance he may appear to be totally gay; conversely a man may appear to be totally straight, even macho, but actually be totally gay.

 

My own view, based as much on what working boys have told me as on my own (admittedly probably more limited) experience, has been that around a third are totally gay, a third are bi and a third are gay for pay.

 

To "keep it short", simply because 90% of working Thai boys may not have been able to perform satisfactorily with you over the last 30 years says a lot more about your sexual attraction to them than it does about their own sexual preferences.

 

 

[Guest ear wig]

Thanks for the help, but adding up 90, 49 and 10 was not really too much trouble.

 

I am relieved that you did not complicate it too much - I am already having a problem with the maths again, as "10% of it" (the other half) is actually only 5% of the whole!

 

I can, however, follow what you have deduced based on your own experience, which I readily accept is considerable. This appears to be that 50% are totally straight but "gay for pay"; 40% are bi to varying degrees and only 10% are totally gay, some of whom are lady-boys.

 

The problem is that your deductions are based on your personal experiences with the boys and on the assumption that "what you see is what you get", which may not necessarily be true. The one controlling factor that you appear to have overlooked, however, is any sexual chemistry / sexual attraction between the boy and the customer which does exist in all sexual liaisons to a greater or lesser degree, although this can obviously be masked by the financial incentive and by the acting ability of the boy concerned. A boy who appears to be in the 50% straight category, for example, may simply not be able to perform with a customer due to a total lack of any sexual attraction which he cannot overcome by acting, although he may in fact be totally gay but only able to perform with the right partner. On the other hand a boy who appears to be in the 10% totally gay category, irrespective of whether he is the lady boy or boy next door type, may in fact be totally straight but just a good actor and able to control his emotions and his physical reactions.

 

The old adage that you cannot judge a book by its cover is particularly true where sexual preferences are concerned - for example a transvestite / cross-dresser may be totally straight, although to judge solely by outward appearance he may appear to be totally gay; conversely a man may appear to be totally straight, even macho, but actually be totally gay.

 

My own view, based as much on what working boys have told me as on my own (admittedly probably more limited) experience, has been that around a third are totally gay, a third are bi and a third are gay for pay.

 

To "keep it short", simply because 90% of working Thai boys may not have been able to perform satisfactorily with you over the last 30 years says a lot more about your sexual attraction to them than it does about their own sexual preferences.

 

ONE MORE TIME!!!

 

To me a man who is str8 is a man who looks for a lady for sex.

 

A man who is bi-sexual is a man who searches for lady, most of the time and a man some of the time. as a matter of preference.

 

A man who is gay is a he who searches for a man only, all for there own satisfaction....

 

May be its difficult for you to work out, but I've tried to make it easy for a complicated mind like yours.

 

If duck Quacks its a duck..............and here we have a lot of Quackers people sometimes.

 

In other words no matter how you like to dress it up its what is in your heart, learn the first biggest lesson on Thai men. Only look at actions never listen to words in love. i.e no matter what your boyz tell you, only take notice of what they do.

 

Best of luck with the rocket science..your need it, thats all ill say about this, so Ill say no more..... as you say?

[khaolakguy]

Nice post Gone Fishing.

 

 

[Guest Aunty]

Tiger's a hottie! Where is he now?

[Guest ear wig]

Tiger's a hottie! Where is he now?

 

 

I have not seen him in 6 months he was always at FUTURE BOYS BANGKOK before FUJI BOYS where he use to hop between the two.

 

May be wow pow has a more up to date location for him he is majic, even now you cant miss him hes one of those guyz who stand out, not not me him

[Guest PeterUK]

 

My own view, based as much on what working boys have told me as on my own (admittedly probably more limited) experience, has been that around a third are totally gay, a third are bi and a third are gay for pay.

 

 

 

That's pretty much my experience too. We're all familiar with the statistic that about 10 percent of the general population is gay, but it seems reasonable to assume that this percentage would be higher in bars where workers know they will be servicing gay customers.

 

[Guest gonefishing]

We're all familiar with the statistic that about 10 percent of the general population is gay, but it seems reasonable to assume that this percentage would be higher in bars where workers know they will be servicing gay customers.

 

PeterUK,

 

this seems a more than reasonable assumption. The problem is that some people judge others (bar boys in this case) purely by "what they do" with them, ignoring what they may do with others and also ignoring any shortcomings they may have of their own. This is hardly the basis for a reasoned and balanced view of anyone's character - except to those with similar shortcomings, who may be similarly unbalanced!

[Gaybutton]

Well, Ear Wig, I'm still waiting for you to answer my question about where you are getting your percentages from. After all, on another thread you wrote, "Everdentally the good heart is there, its just that you have a hard out side, protecting a soft inner shell, I dont assume anything, I have documented proof.

 

I can always prove what I write, even though some of the articles have seemed to be pure fantasy to be always in the future true, even the last post you deleted which is the Gaythailands prerogative and I respect that."

 

Those are your words, aren't they?

 

Ok, you don't assume anything. You have documented proof. You also can always prove what you write.

 

So, prove it. After all, we wouldn't want the super star of the Internet to come across as full of baloney and less than credible, would we?

[Guest Pearl69er]

 

So, prove it. After all, we wouldn't want the super star of the Internet to come across as full of baloney and less than credible, would we?

now your'e sounding like me !!

[Gaybutton]

now your'e sounding like me !!

 

As "Fuji," from McHale's Navy would have said, "Oy vey!"

[Guest gonefishing]

....ignoring any shortcomings they may have of their own.

 

One possibility I overlooked, of course, is that those concerned may not have "shortcomings", but may be so well equipped that they frightened off all but 10%! Anything is possible ...