too many gayforum

[Guest fountainhall]

My point is and was that a gaythailand forum should be a GAY Thailand forum.  I can go to thaivisa.com

for much of what is posted here and of course I can go to cruisingforsex.com for the explcit sexual threads

 

Please be assured I appreciate the point you are making, but I am still having difficulty in interpreting what you mean by "GAY Thailand" and posts related to GAY Thailand. Every time I ask, I only get a repeat that you want more about “GAY Thailand”. It honestly would be more help if you could be more specific?

 

Yes, I realise that some topics here are also covered on thaivisa. But let’s be honest – and let’s also be fair! That Board has such a vast array of topics it would be highly unusual if some similar topics were not also covered here! Some topics are also covered on the other Boards mentioned by the OP. Do you mean that these types of posts should not appear here, and that this Board’s members should have to join those other Boards if they wish to discuss them? I'm just curious.

 

Agree with it or not, the forum heading here is -

 

 

This is the main forum for all things gay in Thailand including Gay Pattaya, Gay Bangkok, Gay Chiang Mai, Gay Phuket. Post information here on events, places, activities, questions, and comments. Keep the topics related to information on Thailand.

 

That’s pretty general. So I wonder if there is a conflict between what you regard as “gay” and what the Board owner and some posters so consider? Since you have not been specific, let me try. I’d consider topics relating to the following as legitimate under this heading -

 

* Latest info and comments on gay nightlife and gay establishments

* Some info on general tourist matters geared to gay tourists

* Hotel, airline, restaurant, cafe info and promotions that can be of interest to/be useful for gay tourists/expats

* General Thailand news that might affect gay tourists – e.g. HIV news/weather/coups/some politics etc.

* Issues relating to gay expats in Thailand

* Issues related to living in Thailand of interest to expats and/or to those considering living/retiring here

* Trip reports about Thaiiand and neighbouring countries useful for those planning to visit

* Occasional Trip reports about other countries that could be stopover possibilities for those planning to travel to Thailand or those living here

 

That’s a reasonable selection. In my view, in the list of topics on the first two pages of this Forum all but 5 threads slot into one of the above categories. Clearly you do not agree. Please - it really would help if you could give us your advice as to what on the above list should not be in a gay Thailand Board. And what other categories you think should be added. Thanks.

[Guest timmberty]

i think what willie is after is a series of gay bar reports, simular to a lot of the sgt reports.

the ones made by 2 or 3 posters about what bars had how many dancers and if they where semi naked fully naked etc etc. now without wishes to start another fight !! i find such reports pointless and boring, but others sit in front of their computers knocking one off the wrist as they read it.

what do you do/think ?

[Guest fountainhall]

i think what willie is after is a series of gay bar reports, simular to a lot of the sgt reports.

the ones made by 2 or 3 posters about what bars had how many dancers and if they where semi naked fully naked etc etc. 

 

Thanks timmberty. At least that gives me an idea. Maybe weewillie will confirm.

 

Personally, I'm perfectly happy to read such reports from time to time. But I'd hate to see a forum devoted merely to that.

[Rogie]

I think Timmberty is being unfair to Williewillie; that's probably not the total sum of what he had in mind, at least I hope not. Allow me to be a bit more diplomatic. I usually just skim through the bar reports and don't bother reading the ones started by bar owners at all. If the majority of topics were bar reports that'd make my browsing time on this Message Board pretty short. I might not bother to even log in and just read the good stuff from time to time. Like it or not, a Board has a 'personality', and if it jars too much with your own likes and preferences then you're likely to view it less favourably. I used to post on another Board but now just read it. It's personality (if it has one!) is lost on me, and I feel like a stranger there, outside looking in.

[Guest fountainhall]

I do not wish to be unfair to anyone. I'm just seeking ideas. The OP was quite clear when he asked - 

 

 

What do you look for in a forum?

 

That's a relatively simple question. Weewillie has in all his posts said there is not enough here about gay Thailand. Its hard to agree or disagree with that when he hasn't spelled out what he means by it! After all, as I posted earlier, the topic gay Thailand can cover a whole host of subjects.

[Bob]

Out of curiosity, williewillie, what specific "gay" topics would you like discussed here? Information about the gay bars somewhere in Thailand, current off fees, or what?

Never quoted myself before (probably never worth quoting) but, since he hasn't substantively responded to the same question posed by several posters, thought I'd give him another opportunity.  Up to you, williewillie. 

[williewillie]

I looked over at gaybuttonthai and saw that FH was accurate and most of the threads were not gay-themed and rather mundane.  SGT had more gay related topics but since it is dominated by its owner and his 2 or 3 sidekicks, it gets tedious rather quickly. 

I haven't bothered to look at tingtong in

ages and won't look at hedda's neo-conservative musings on baht-stop,

I will just muddle through as each gaythailand will evolve in its own way and

the option of starting my own forum is not a possiblity.

To this fourm's credit, it has a core of supporters who take it seriously and it has improved greatly under the new

management.  To satisfy those requesting a substantive response, more threads about Thai young men in all their

glorious aspects would be great.  After all isn't that why we are all here.

[Guest]

The basic arguments that there are "too many" gay Thailand forums and they're "not gay enough" are flawed.

 

If enough people wanted a strictly gay forum, it would have happened on one of the many existing forums. 

Or a new site could probably launched for a very modest annual fee.  There are low barriers to entry in this business. 

 

Anyhow, what sort of gay content should we be adding to this site?

[Guest thaiworthy]

To satisfy those requesting a substantive response, more threads about Thai young men in all their

glorious aspects would be great.  After all isn't that why we are all here.

 

I take it by men in all their glorious aspects, that you mean more photos. Perhaps revealing photos. Now and then Z will post photos that I think are tastefully done. Is this what you mean? Z and I have pretty much the same taste, so I get enough satisfaction when he does post photos, such as the ones in the "Beachlover Snapshot" thread.

 

 

After all isn't that why we are all here.

 

No, not entirely, not me anyway.

[Guest]

I take it by men in all their glorious aspects, that Iyou mean more photos. Perhaps revealing photo

One way to do that would be to have a new sub forum -completely separate from the main forum, so those who are not interested can just follow to the current content. .

Perhaps that could be by invitation only, to those who have contributed to the main forum. 

[williewillie]

I didn't mean photos thaiworthy.  If you are not in Thailand because of Thai guys, then you are the exception.

If the central interest of posters here is not the Thai young men, then I just don't get it.  Why not have some more threads

about what interests us all.  This is all getting old for me and I can't seem to satisfy everyone so lets move on.

[Bob]

Why not have some more threads about what interests us all. 

 

While it's obvious you're not going to get specific as to what particular topics interest you, I think you're making an assumption as to what type of posts interest "us all."  We're all different as to what topics we want to read or post about and one's station in life and/or experience (age) probably has a fair amount to do with it.  For those who are younger or only vacation here in Thailand, I suspect they might be more prone to want to read about various gay scenes (bars, off fees, whatever) in Bangkok or Pattaya as that's where most of the vacationers go. For those of us who live here and/or have read thousands of posts about such topics for the last 15+ years, I suspect there is less interest.

 

I can only speak for myself as to what interests me but, for the most part, since I've been around for ages and live for a reason in Chiangmai, I have no interest at all in what's happening in the gay scene in Pattaya or Bangkok and I typically skip over those threads posted on any of the boards.  I do have a minor interest in the gay scene here in Chiangmai but, since I know about the places (and/or hear all I need to know from other friends here), there's really no dying interest from me to read posts about them. I will post responses to questions about Chiangmai locales and happenings if somebody asks a question about same and I feel I know enough to provide a reasonable response.  So, sorry, looks like I won't be much of a source for topics that interest you (whatever that might be); however, if you have a question about what's happening up here in the boonies, ask away.

[Guest fountainhall]

I suggest williewillie has a valid point. As far as I can remember, there have not been many posts about the attraction of young Thai men - recently. I do think there used to be more. As many regular posters have been members of gaythailand for some time, repetition can get boring. Also, many regular posters are in long-term relationships with Thai guys, and such threads may be of less interest to them. So there is a need for new members like williewillie to freshen things up.

Perhaps new members should also be aware, though, that there is a posting conduct on gaythailand that reads - 
 

 

The expected conduct standard for the Gay Thailand forums is the same as that observed everyday in society by adults in our neighborhoods, towns, and cities. It is based on straightforward mature behavior, civility and courtesy that you find in a neighborhood Pub or Tavern where neighbors and acquaintances joined by occasional strangers come together to socialize in good temper, to share conversation, and to hoist, in moderation, a glass of favorite beer or wine or a cup of coffee or tea.

 

I suggest many of the threads that williewillie was commenting on in earlier posts concerned the bit about "socialising in good temper" and "sharing conversation". When gay guys get together, as I will this evening with friends, the conversation will cover a wide variety of topics, only some of which will relate to gay issues and even less to gay Thailand issues. That's because we all live here. We may go on to a go go bar or one of the open-air bars to watch the gay world go by. One of the obvious attractions will be the young Thai guys on display or just walking by. I'll now pay a bit more attention to this and try and post more about it. 

[baobao]

After all isn't that why we are all here.

 

Not really, no. Nothing against the folks who are, but that's not the case for a lot of folks.