Guest Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 I was referring to you and not LMTU. You seem to be suggesting that the poster should go to other boards. Not at all, I'm just saying this board shouldn't allow members to insult each other. Most people don't want to do that anyway, but it only needs a couple who think insults are amusing and they would ruin the board for everyone else. We've seen that happen on other boards. If this board did allow one or two members to insult the others indefinitely, I and a few other members would probably move off elsewhere. Equally, if other members want to do nothing other than trade juvenile insults, they can find a board that will cater for those needs. Then when they want to discuss something without being impeded by the insults, log on here again. Quote
Guest timmberty Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 insulting and cracking a joke are often a very thin line ... i find most people on these boards tend not to get a joke and very often find a reason to think the remark was infact an insult. then even if it was not directed at them, they will feel the need to get involved . and their reply will more often than not be very insulting ... my opion which im sure is worth nothing would be .. dont answer a post that is not directed at you, if you think the poster is being insulting, just because you dont get the joke .. p.s. i find mostly americans dont get the joke .. Quote
williewillie Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 The majority has spoken. Only the founder/ex-owner differs. Every other gaythailand forum has banned the same poster. There is an saying that if 3 people tell you that you are drunk, it is time to lay down. vinapu and ChristianPFC 2 Quote
Guest jomtien Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 The majority has spoken. Only the founder/ex-owner differs. Every other gaythailand forum has banned the same poster. There is an saying that if 3 people tell you that you are drunk, it is time to lay down. No, the founder/ex-owner is not the only one who differs. No, every other gay thailand board has not banned the same poster. Quote
kokopelli Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 LMTU continues to post on Baht-Stop although he has broken some of their code of conduct regarding excessive posts. My personal feeling is that he, HeyGay, made his bed and now he must lie upon it. Quote
Guest timmberty Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 ive been reading and posting for just over a year now on various boards ... i have come to the conclusion, most posters are a little bit crazy/nutty/mad. this one person lmtu get you in a tissy time and time again ... yet hes been doing it for how long ?? hes bored the pants off me already .. so ill move on .. yet loads of people just want to talk about him all the time !! whats gives ?? Quote
Guest Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 LMTU continues to post on Baht-Stop Maybe he continues to post here too. All it needs is a new handle and a minor change of style. Lookout for the familiar characteristics mildly modified. Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 LMTU continues to post on Baht-Stop although he has broken some of their code of conduct regarding excessive posts. Baht-Stop has codes of conduct? Maybe he continues to post here too. All it needs is a new handle and a minor change of style. Lookout for the familiar characteristics mildly modified. Like any post that starts with "Oh my!" or "I only tell the truth," etc., ad nauseam. Quote
williewillie Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 No, the founder/ex-owner is not the only one who differs. No, every other gay thailand board has not banned the same poster. Since I don't recall jomtien expressing support, my reference was to all the other posters who commented earlier. No doubt there are some who haven't expressed an opinion that agree or disagree. One can only reference those who have expressed themselves. When I stated lmtu was banned from all the other gaythailand foroms, I meant all the major ones, gaybutton, sawatdee gaythailand and this forum. No doubt some of the minor forums have not banned him yet. Fortunately, the boss makes the decisions here and not the former boss or moderators. Reason prevails Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 insulting and cracking a joke are often a very thin line ... i find most people on these boards tend not to get a joke and very often find a reason to think the remark was infact an insult. then even if it was not directed at them, they will feel the need to get involved . and their reply will more often than not be very insulting ... my opion which im sure is worth nothing would be .. dont answer a post that is not directed at you, if you think the poster is being insulting, just because you dont get the joke .. With all respect to timmberty, I think his scenario rarely plays out on this Board. I have certainly seen it on others, and there are certainly some posters who enjoy indulging in such banter, both giving and receiving. So I'd ask him a question. If you find that "most people . . . tend not to get a joke", what then is the point of making such a joke at all if it is likely to be interpreted as an insult by others - unless it is to provoke that very reaction? I really am not trying to put down your comment - merely to make my own response. Boards often need jokes to lighten things up. But there are jokes and there are jokes. What is funny to one may seem boring to others or, as you point out, perhaps insulting. This is often true when, say, Americans can't see the point of a typically English-type joke - and vice-versa! Ensuring that you make clear you are making a joke through the use of icons sometimes helps defuse any possible misinterpretation. Where I believe this Board differs from most others is that the Posting Code is, at least for the time being, far more detailed as to posting behaviour. The use of the words "mature behavior, civility and courtesy" surely make it clear that the Board owner does not wish to see the type of banter which many regard as childish and which is often common on some other Boards. Equally, the rules are clear that any "egregiously abusive or chronically problematic customer (member)" is not going to last very long. Like it or not, that's clearly stated in the Code. As I said in an earlier post, though, if a member is going to be banned, then I think a warning should first be given that posting behaviour needs to be changed. Only if it does not change should the ban come into effect. Personally, I don't agree with instant dismissal. Quote
ChristianPFC Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Sorry Christian but I take completely the opposite view in this issue. To begin with, in this case it was not two people having a "quarrel" (although I would use a different word); it was virtually one against many. I was referring to a recent exchange of posts between you and HeyGay where you tried to nail him down (maybe not the best choice of words) for inaccuracies in his posts. I think everyone here knows that HeyGay is/was prone to exaggeration and inaccuracies, so there was no need to ride on that issue (again) and try to get him to admit that was wrong. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Sorry Christian, I still don't agree. What you said was - You always need two people to have a quarrel, if he posts irrelevant trash, others have to reply, and that is where the thread is dragged of topic. It needs some self-restraint not to answer these posts. If someone posts "irrelevant trash" (your phrase), what on earth makes you think readers have a duty to tolerate it and simply ignore it? If it was one post or maybe a couple, then what you say makes some sense. But what if every poster got his rocks off by continuously writing a deliberately affected form of gobbledygook of the sort that even you admit you sometimes could not read? It's just plain ridiculous! Besides, in my view, it very clearly makes a mockery of the posting Code. And, yes, that poster was inaccurate. You seem to imply that such inaccuracy was accidental. Again, in one or two posts, I'll say perhaps. In the others . . . ? Do you want me to list yet again the various posts where plain untruths were stated and then repeated and repeated and repeated, despite proof being posted to the opposite? This discussion has already been through all that and so I won't go over it yet again. I'll just add one thing, though. When most posters make mistakes, they generally correct them with good grace or step back from the discussion when other posters correct them. That is civilised behaviour! If someone continuously repeats errors and lathers that with the nonsense that he (the poster) never ever writes anything but the truth, yes there is a need to "ride on that issue" as you say. Quote
Guest timmberty Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 indeed FH i fully agree with you .. hence the fact i dont bother trying to joke anymore .. tho i totally disagree with you about the icons .. if one needs to add an icon to let people know you was trying to make a joke .. then there is no point what so ever in making the joke . Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Good point timmberty and one I shared with you till earlier in the year. On another Board, one poster wrote that there was little to do in BKK apart from going to bars and Pattaya was far more interesting. I replied with a whole list of lots of things which visitors could do in BKK. I was then roasted by the poster for taking him too seriously and "showing off"! He said I should have realised it was a joke, but he'd forgotten to put an ROFL icon after his first post! Until then, I hadn't a clue what ROFL meant!, but it made me realise that perhaps jokes need a bit of 'iconnery' (!) just to avoid any possible misunderstanding. Quote
Bob Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 a bit of 'iconnery' I think that's what they called Sean after he bought an Apple product.... Quote